my depression, and me

zalzal010 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 04:39 AM

This depression I have has been this recurring problem, that I'm gettin rather good at predicting. I know what kind of mental occurances it takes to set me in a bout of depression that can last all day. It seems to get worse with every little "depression attack" that I experience.

Well - the girl in my life, who is just about the only person I chill with these days (some old friends are douchebags, some moved away, blah blah), is getting sent to Arizona with her aunt, to get her life off drugs and back on track. I JUST found out from someone at work - seems shes been avoiding telling me for im not sure how long.

I'm gonna try and talk to her tonight, to find out when its gonna happen, and all the details.

Now, this is EXACTLY the type of thing that's really gonna get me into a little dark hole of shittyness. It messes up my concentration, my mood, and adds a feeling of "pointlessness" to my daily activities, leading me to eventually just sit in my room sulking until I pass out. Sounds pretty shitty - yes, it is.

Its effecting my life more and more too. I get very irratable at work when I'm feeling depressed about somethin, and everyone notices and it just causes more problems.

Her leaving is a BIG bad thing though, and I fear its gonna cause some serious issues. I'll try to keep in contact with her as best I can, but the fact that I cant see her again is really gonna break me down.

I also predict some depression after she leaves, when the reality of having no close friends sets in. Just because of how things have been going, I just havn't really been hanging with anyone. I had some buddies who used to be closer, but its just been a long time since I've talked to 'em.

Ok so, I don't want to use perscription meds for this. I've heard too many bad things about depression meds, and would rather not take that course. So - does anyone have any knowledge about my problem, and what I should do?

Mr.bubbles · #2 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 04:57 AM

dude i am currently depressed i go to a pycoligist(sp) and i take 20 mg prozac 1 a day..i do find anything bad with the pills im taking..if i noticed nay sudden change that was nigitively effected by these anti-depressents i would not suggest you use them but im not kidding they have helped me 100% man..i was getting to go into severe depression i mean i went from sleeping ALL day to getting 2 or 3 hours of sleep a night...i have been on these prozacs for about 2 months now and i see a humoungous change...but i mean it got so bad to where i wouldnt eat nthing for days at a time..i couldnt help it i wasnt hungry even the muncies didnt work.. i dont want to say the only way to get rid of it is meds but thats a good source if its a chemical imballance then meds are the only way to go.i suggst if you dont want to take meds you can talk to a theripast weekly..

i hope this helped you out somewhat man..do you have any more questons i mean ANTHING?

-bubbles

Utero420 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 05:00 AM

Anti-depressants didn't really work for me, the best thing you can do is find someone you can trust who is close to you and talk to them about it. Or do what i did, arrange an appointment with a physchiatrist (sp?) and tell them your problems (yes i know it sounds a little off but whatever). Just talk to someone about your thoughts and vent it out a little, you'll feel better.

JeraldoRonaldo · #4 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 05:04 AM

Hey man, I feel your pain. I have the same problem, and I'm on meds for it. I have almost the exact same problem as you. Go to therapy man. If you ever wanna talk to me, I'm here. Therapy will help you out a whole lot. Technically, people like us shouldn't be chiefing the reef, because it can make our heads worse.

Your self talk has a lot to do with depression. You need to be able to talk to yourself, realize when you have negative self talk, and fix it. Last night I had an episode like that. You need to stop and do a few things

Why are you feeling depressed?
What can you do about it?
Can you even do anything about it?

Ask yourself questions like that. You need to just be able to let things go. My advice, is a little silly. But, I've been there. If you stop, and think, you can master it. It takes time, and effort, but I think you can master it. Heck, acceepting the fact that you're depressed, and sometimes you can't fucking do anything about it, helps. Just accept it, and let it ride its course.

Also, masturbate. It releases chemicals in your brain that make you feel better.

zalzal010 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 05:23 AM

Thank you guys, theres a feeling of relief just seeing some replies here.

I'm starting to think that my case is a bit too severe for home remedies. I talk to alot of people about it, I give myself the reassurances, I analyze the depression (source, possible solutions, as you said jeraldo), and in the end I still find myself feeling bad.

I suppose I'll have to get an appointment with a therapist some time soon. I see how the depression is gettin worse, and I don't know how much longer it's gonna be so short/infrequent.

Mr.bubbles · #6 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 05:39 AM

dude i can suggest to get anti depressents..like i said man..i have yahoo..or u can pm on here if you ever need to really talk about anything..peace man

Rabidbaboon · #7 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 06:29 AM

Before the depression sets in, I'd find a purpose of some sort. So every day you find yourself sulking around the house you realize you have soemthing to do.

Airplane models and stuff really help me with this.

zalzal010 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 06:35 AM

thanks bubbles. I probly will hit you up some time, you're on just as often as my no-life ass.

And yeah, Rabid, I was thinking the exact thing. Get into something, so I can have some purpose, other than my shitty job.

I have an unused 40 gallon aquarium - I was considering getting some kind of amphibian. If I can find the toads with the hallucinogenic venom, I'll get a few of those and spend some time setting up a nice terrarium.

Or maybe a few leapord geckos, those things are awesome.

magicslippaz666 · #9 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 07:16 AM

hey man i feel u totaly 100% i have ben diagnosed with chronic depression and i know how u feel man.PM me or hit me up on aim,if there is anything i could do to help u just ask.

420420420 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 09:20 PM

well, I believe that meds should be taken ONLY as a very last option.

get a dog man, I might sounds kinda stupid but dogs can be great friends.

WookiesAreCool · #11 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 09:48 PM

man im feeling that
im depressed and i have body moprhing diosrder (not 100% usre on the name) but it basically means i think im alot uglier than i am to the point wherre i cant even look in the mirror. i know that sounds stupid but you have no idea how hard it is to look in the mirror and never see your self. i wonder what i really look lik honestly.

but im trying to stay away from meds. i just listen to music, mountain bike and ddr until i feel a little better. try to find your escape like not drugs, but like i said MTB, DDR, music, anything to take your mind off your problems, music has saved my life

akforty7s · #12 (**permalink**) 10-04-2005, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420420420

well, I believe that meds should be taken ONLY as a very last option.
get a dog man, I might sounds kinda stupid but dogs can be great friends.

Take this man's advice

Mr.bubbles · #13 (**permalink**) 10-05-2005, 12:19 AM

there is nothing wrong with themeds im taking and i take prozac and im compleatly fine and im back to my normal self now...happy and charming...

yoo dude you hit me up andy fucking day of the week at any hour ill make time dude..peace man

Crossbreed · #14 (**permalink**) 10-05-2005, 02:50 AM

I'd like to add my 2 cents in here, I'm studying psychology and find it fascinating. depression's real common everywhere you look. Chronic depression, chemical imbalances that turn to depression and anxiety are when you truely need meds though. JeraldoRonaldo said some interesting stuff about how the first step is to accept it, he's right. The first step in change is accepting the change. If you do not accept and hide behind meds or drugs before you come face to face with the problem you stunt your growth in life.

So my advice, stay off the pills although they may be tempting there is also some negative effects afterwards.. I'm talking about possible addiction. Overcoming challenges, change, and things like this is what makes you a fuller person, so keep that in mind.

Lastly, if there's one thing you take from my post i'd want you to know that we as humans are in control of our own emotions and we have the freedom to change any aspect in our lives so long as they dont conflict with anyone else's life. What I'm saying is -- if you think you are depressed you will be. you must believe in yourself. do the change, keep your chin up, try to have an optimistic view on this there are pros and cons to everything look to yourself to find these.

i also recommend picking up a psychology book rather then spending time w/ some shrink. learn the rules of the world for yourself!

astro · #15 (**permalink**) 10-05-2005, 03:05 AM

Existentialism and humanist psychology are interesting theories (which is what I believe Crossbreed is talking about), however, as someone who has chronic depression / dysthymia, I can honestly say that "willing" oneself out of depression has never been an option, for me at least. Instead it's more of an "I'm trying to change, but I'm unable to change how I feel." Just my thoughts.

Anyway in general I recommend seeing a psychologist, particularly one that speciallizes in depression and/or people in your age group. The reason I say this is this: I've had a number of psychologists, and the problem I end up with is I'll either get one who's very "sterile" so that it becomes hard to open up to them and is more like talking to that old Eliza program that many of us probably played as children, and less like actual therapy. Second is it's often hard to open up to people who are not big on the whole depression thing because they are more used to analyzing problems of people who have *serious* behavior issues. By that I mean they end up giving obvious advice that I'd thought of already, as if I was too messed up to think of it on my own, which is not the case. But if you find someone who is good with patients who have depression problems then you'll be taking some steps in the right direction.

GL.

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#1 (permalink) 10-04-2005, 04:39 AM
zalzal010 there was much rejoicing Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,727	my depression, and me This depression I have has been this recurring problem, that I'm gettin rather good at predicting. I know what kind of mental occurances it takes to set me in a bout of depression that can last all day. It seems to get worse with every little "depression attack" that I experience. Well - the girl in my life, who is just about the only person I chill with these days (some old friends are douchebags, some moved away, blah blah), is getting sent to Arizona with her aunt, to get her life off drugs and back on track. I JUST found out from someone at work - seems shes been avoiding telling me for im not sure how long. I'm gonna try and talk to her tonight, to find out when its gonna happen, and all the details. Now, this is EXACTLY the type of thing that's really gonna get me into a little dark hole of shittyness. It messes up my concentration, my mood, and adds a feeling of "pointlessness" to my daily activities, leading me to eventually just sit in my room sulking until I pass out. Sounds pretty shitty - yes, it is. Its effecting my life more and more too. I get very irratable at work when I'm feeling depressed about somethin, and everyone notices and it just causes more problems. Her leaving is a BIG bad thing though, and I fear its gonna cause some serious issues. I'll try to keep in contact with her as best I can, but the fact that I cant see her again is really gonna break me down. I also predict some depression after she leaves, when the reality of having no close friends sets in. Just because of how things have been going, I just havn't really been hanging with anyone. I had some buddies who used to be closer, but its just been a long time since I've talked to 'em. Ok so, I don't want to use perscription meds for this. I've heard too many bad things about depression meds, and would rather not take that course. So - does anyone have any knowledge about my problem, and what I should do? __________________ _________________________________________________ Stop the ignorance, clean up the city. *It's time to medicate.* Last edited by zalzal010; 10-04-2005 at 04:45 AM.

#2 (permalink) 10-04-2005, 04:57 AM
Mr.bubbles louie armstrong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 3,939	dude i am currently depressed i go to a pycoligist(sp) and i take 20 mg prozac 1 a day..i do find anything bad with the pills im taking..if i noticed nay sudden change that was nigitively effected by these anti-depressents i would not suggest you use them but im not kidding they have helped me 100% man..i was getting to go into severe depression i mean i went from sleeping ALL day to getting 2 or 3 hours of sleep a night...i have been on these prozacs for about 2 months now and i see a humoungous change...but i mean it got so bad to where i wouldnt eat nthing for days at a time..i couldnt help it i wasnt hungry even the muncies didnt work.. i dont want to say the only way to get rid of it is meds but thats a good source if its a chemical imballance then meds are the only way to go.i suggst if you dont want to take meds you can talk to a theripast weekly.. i hope this helped you out somewhat man..do you have any more questons i mean ANTHING? -bubbles __________________ Signature Limits: All signatures should not exceed the following size limits, and you can't have both text and images. Text Signatures: 4 lines normal size OR 8 lines small size and up to 90 chars per line. Font sizes above 2 are not allowed. For images in signatures: 1 image up to 300 pixels wide, 125 pixels tall and 20k in size.

#3 (permalink) 10-04-2005, 05:00 AM
Utero420 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba Posts: 25	Anti-depressants didn't really work for me, the best thing you can do is find someone you can trust who is close to you and talk to them about it. Or do what i did, arrange an appointment with a physchiatrist (sp?) and tell them your problems (yes i know it sounds a little off but whatever). Just talk to someone about your thoughts and vent it out a little, you'll feel better. __________________ Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness And cleanliness is godliness, and god is empty just like me.

#4 (permalink) 10-04-2005, 05:04 AM
JeraldoRonaldo Pistil Whipped Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 887	Hey man, I feel your pain. I have the same problem, and I'm on meds for it. I have almost the exact same problem as you. Go to therapy man. If you ever wanna talk to me, I'm here. Therapy will help you out a whole lot. Technically, people like us shouldn't be chiefing the reef, because it can make our heads worse. Your self talk has a lot to do with depression. You need to be able to talk to yourself, realize when you have negative self talk, and fix it. Last night I had an episode like that. You need to stop and do a few things Why are you feeling depressed? What can you do about it? Can you even do anything about it? Ask yourself questions like that. You need to just be able to let things go. My advice, is a little silly. But, I've been there. If you stop, and think, you can master it. It takes time, and effort, but I think you can master it. Heck, acceepting the fact that you're depressed, and sometimes you can't fucking do anything about it, helps. Just accept it, and let it ride its course. Also, masturbate. It releases chemicals in your brain that make you feel better.

#5 (permalink) 10-04-2005, 05:23 AM
zalzal010 there was much rejoicing Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,727	Thank you guys, theres a feeling of relief just seeing some replies here. I'm starting to think that my case is a bit too severe for home remedies. I talk to alot of people about it, I give myself the reassurances, I analyze the depression (source, possible solutions, as you said jeraldo), and in the end I still find myself feeling bad. I suppose I'll have to get an appointment with a therapist some time soon. I see how the depression is gettin worse, and I don't know how much longer it's gonna be so short/infrequent. __________________ _________________________________________________ Stop the ignorance, clean up the city. *It's time to medicate.*

#6 (permalink) 10-04-2005, 05:39 AM
Mr.bubbles louie armstrong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 3,939	dude i can suggest to get anti depressents..like i said man..i have yahoo..or u can pm on here if you ever need to really talk about anything..peace man __________________ Signature Limits: All signatures should not exceed the following size limits, and you can't have both text and images. Text Signatures: 4 lines normal size OR 8 lines small size and up to 90 chars per line. Font sizes above 2 are not allowed. For images in signatures: 1 image up to 300 pixels wide, 125 pixels tall and 20k in size.

#7 (permalink) 10-04-2005, 06:29 AM
Rabidbaboon Drugged Monk Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 475	Before the depression sets in, I'd find a purpose of some sort. So every day you find yourself sulking around the house you realize you have soemthing to do. Airplane models and stuff really help me with this.

#8 (permalink) 10-04-2005, 06:35 AM
zalzal010 there was much rejoicing Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,727	thanks bubbles. I probly will hit you up some time, you're on just as often as my no-life ass. And yeah, Rabid, I was thinking the exact thing. Get into something, so I can have some purpose, other than my shitty job. I have an unused 40 gallon aquarium - I was considering getting some kind of amphibian. If I can find the toads with the hallucinogenic venom, I'll get a few of those and spend some time setting up a nice terrarium. Or maybe a few leapord geckos, those things are awesome. __________________ _________________________________________________ Stop the ignorance, clean up the city. *It's time to medicate.* Last edited by zalzal010; 10-04-2005 at 06:45 AM.

#9 (permalink) 10-04-2005, 07:16 AM
magicslippaz666 Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: texas Posts: 189	hey man i feel u totaly 100% i have ben diagnosed with chronic depression and i know how u feel man.PM me or hit me up on aim,if there is anything i could do to help u just ask.

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420420420 Freedumb Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: One Horse Town (stifling hole) Posts: 2,261	well, I believe that meds should be taken ONLY as a very last option. get a dog man, I might sounds kinda stupid but dogs can be great friends. __________________ The ongoing WOW is happening right NOW.

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#11 (permalink) 10-04-2005, 09:48 PM
WookiesAreCool God (B)Less America Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boulderado Posts: 2,584	man im feeling that im depressed and i have body moprhing diosrder (not 100% usre on the name) but it basically means i think im alot uglier than i am to the point wherre i cant even look in the mirror. i know that sounds stupid but you have no idea how hard it is to look in the mirror and never see your self. i wonder what i really look lik honestly. but im trying to stay away from meds. i just listen to music, mountain bike and ddr until i feel a little better. try to find your escape like not drugs, but like i said MTB, DDR, music, anything to take your mind off your problems, music has saved my life __________________

#13 (permalink) 10-05-2005, 12:19 AM
Mr.bubbles louie armstrong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 3,939	there is nothing wrong with themeds im taking and i take prozac and im compleatly fine and im back to my normal self now...happy and charming... yoo dude you hit me up andy fucking day of the week at any hour ill make time dude..peace man __________________ Signature Limits: All signatures should not exceed the following size limits, and you can't have both text and images. Text Signatures: 4 lines normal size OR 8 lines small size and up to 90 chars per line. Font sizes above 2 are not allowed. For images in signatures: 1 image up to 300 pixels wide, 125 pixels tall and 20k in size.

#14 (permalink) 10-05-2005, 02:50 AM
Crossbreed Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albany, OR Posts: 450	I'd like to add my 2 cents in here, I'm studying psychology and find it fascinating. depression's real common everywhere you look. Chronic depression, chemical imbalances that turn to depression and anxiety are when you truely need meds though. JeraldoRonaldo said some interesting stuff about how the first step is to accept it, he's right. The first step in change is accepting the change. If you do not accept and hide behind meds or drugs before you come face to face with the problem you stunt your growth in life. So my advice, stay off the pills although they may be tempting there is also some negative effects afterwards.. I'm talking about possible addiction. Overcoming challenges, change, and things like this is what makes you a fuller person, so keep that in mind. Lastly, if there's one thing you take from my post i'd want you to know that we as humans are in control of our own emotions and we have the freedom to change any aspect in our lives so long as they dont conflict with anyone else's life. What I'm saying is -- if you think you are depressed you will be. you must believe in yourself. do the change, keep your chin up, try to have an optimistic view on this there are pros and cons to everything look to yourself to find these. i also recommend picking up a psychology book rather then spending time w/ some shrink. learn the rules of the world for yourself! __________________ Weed. Not anymore! i got Jesus, homie!

#15 (permalink) 10-05-2005, 03:05 AM
astro Captain of Outer Space Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MA Posts: 2,454	Existentialism and humanist psychology are interesting theories (which is what I believe Crossbreed is talking about), however, as someone who has chronic depression / dysthymia, I can honestly say that "willing" oneself out of depression has never been an option, for me at least. Instead it's more of an "I'm trying to change, but I'm unable to change how I feel." Just my thoughts. Anyway in general I recommend seeing a psychologist, particularly one that speciallizes in depression and/or people in your age group. The reason I say this is this: I've had a number of psychologists, and the problem I end up with is I'll either get one who's very "sterile" so that it becomes hard to open up to them and is more like talking to that old Eliza program that many of us probably played as children, and less like actual therapy. Second is it's often hard to open up to people who are not big on the whole depression thing because they are more used to analyzing problems of people who have serious behavior issues. By that I mean they end up giving obvious advice that I'd thought of already, as if I was too messed up to think of it on my own, which is not the case. But if you find someone who is good with patients who have depression problems then you'll be taking some steps in the right direction. GL. __________________ [ US Libertarian Party (FAQ): Drug Policy, War on Drugs, Taxes, Environment, Freedom of Speech, Crime, Quiz ] [ WoD Clock \| NtheDrugWar \| MAPS \| Myths/Facts ] [ Adopt an orphan thread ]