my main dilema these days......

[jcmartin86]

Originally Posted by Digit

so... if your roomie was doing say, weed laced with PCP, u know it's laced with PCP, u tell him, but since he already smoked loads of it, he no longer cares and goes nuts trashing the place because of the effects of the drug on his brain... you say he should just carry on.

k.

great.


thnx for you advice.

big difference between food and pcp.

nice try though

[primetime21335]

Originally Posted by Digit

so... if your roomie was doing say, weed laced with PCP, u know it's laced with PCP, u tell him, but since he already smoked loads of it, he no longer cares and goes nuts trashing the place because of the effects of the drug on his brain... you say he should just carry on.

k.

great.


thnx for you advice.

Dude... you can't seriously think that was a good rebuttal to my comments...

[Tubes]

Dude climb off your friends asses, seriously. Their brains will not rot within 20 years if they don't vigilantly study the labels of the food they consume. I'm conscious of avoiding foods with a lot of preservatives etc where I can but that's my choice. Your heart seems to be in the right place so I'm sorry if this is coming off as harsh. Just let them be. Talk to them about it if you like but if these people drink, smoke etc, they're hardly likely to be too concerned about additives. Seriously though dude, are your friends really deteriorating before your eyes or are they just a little stoned?

"how can they? they are suffering brain damage, i doubt they have the capacity to make sound judgments on this as it requires synthesis of new information, which is among the first to go it would seem from brain rot."

Dude by your assessment the majority of the world is suffering brain damage. It's just laughable. I agree with you, these things aren't good for you but I think you're getting way carried away with this. Living paranoid isn't living healthy.

[Digit]

Originally Posted by Tubes

Dude climb off your friends asses, seriously. Their brains will not rot within 20 years if they don't vigilantly study the labels of the food they consume. I'm conscious of avoiding foods with a lot of preservatives etc where I can but that's my choice. Your heart seems to be in the right place so I'm sorry if this is coming off as harsh. Just let them be. Talk to them about it if you like but if these people drink, smoke etc, they're hardly likely to be too concerned about additives. Seriously though dude, are your friends really deteriorating before your eyes or are they just a little stoned?

"how can they? they are suffering brain damage, i doubt they have the capacity to make sound judgments on this as it requires synthesis of new information, which is among the first to go it would seem from brain rot."

Dude by your assessment the majority of the world is suffering brain damage. It's just laughable. I agree with you, these things aren't good for you but I think you're getting way carried away with this. Living paranoid isn't living healthy.

"Dude by your assessment the majority of the world is suffering brain damage.".... u-huh. we are. what's your point? ...laughable is it? thats a fuckin sick sense of humour u got yourself there.

but really man, i aint on any of my friends asses. and i'm getting fuckin well pissed off with having to reiterate this every fucking time someone posts in this thread. do i just need to learn the illuminati method of mind control n speak to all three portions of yer brain at once!? i havn't been on their asses backs or anywhere else because this is a dilema for me. i'm much like the rest of u guys who've posted in here... respect other peoples right to life n let them live it and all that... but it's the greatest philosophical question of all time... would you kill one to save a million? would you betray one value you hold dear to liberate and save millions etc ?


and please, dont nobody step on eggshells around me. spit out out. be harsh n be more harsh yet. i appreciate brutal honesty, metaphysical bitchslaps, n so on.



but to answer you question i find almost offensive in its outrageously laughable obviousness.... YES friends are deteriorating before my eyes.

i myself have endured prolonged bereavement of my wellbeing & quality of life and been near death from conditions induced by the addicitve poisons our foods are laced with.

i cast no dispersions on you all though. having some aspartame and parfum kicking it about in your brain or not... it's not a welcome concept to concede to, that there is systemic ignorance to the poisons imbibed and the dangers they pose.

but thnx for your thoughtful post... time to deal with the morons....
(that's right, it's name callin time. ban me if you like, it'd be an ace post to go out on)

ps, this aint paranoia. i know paranoia well. this is a concerned citizen getting pro-active on the back of observations and much layman research. there's a difference.


it amuses me that three of you banded together like this. dare i cast out the suggestion that there may be some sheeple lemmingery here?

im sorry...who the fuck said anything about weed laced with PCP? thought we were talking about food...great point

big difference between food and pcp.

nice try though

Dude... you can't seriously think that was a good rebuttal to my comments...

it's this wonderful thing called.... analogy.

it is by far the most powerful learning aid one can utilise as a mental tool i know. (or at least am thinking of at the moment)

you see... i not once compared PCP to food, but rather was making the point that someone was buying substance Q and without their knowledge nor wanting to, they were also getting some substance Z mixed in with it. substance Z being potentially very hazardous and it's effects completely unlike the beneficial benign effects of substance Q.... and you see this person with this, and you know substance Z is in there, and you know they dont want substance Z, or rather, the likely effects of substance Z. do you just sit there and let them consume what they are telling themselves is only substance Q when you know they are getting a dose of substance Z too?


to me... if i didnt get that, that'd raise some serious fuckin alarm bells that i was impaired.

[primetime21335]

^ Lol, we get it, it was just a very poor analogy that regardless of what you say, you said out of contempt, not as a explenational tool.


It's all good though man. I know you're just trying to help people. Alls I'm saying is I think you are exaggerating the problem. Clearly you do not feel that way. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Peace.

[Digit]

Originally Posted by primetime21335

^ Lol, we get it, it was just a very poor analogy that regardless of what you say, you said out of contempt, not as a explenational tool.


It's all good though man. I know you're just trying to help people. Alls I'm saying is I think you are exaggerating the problem. Clearly you do not feel that way. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Peace.

the analogy was fuckin spot on. i said it to explain, despite my frustration. please overlook the emotive tone n see the message clearly.

i never agree to disagree, i know agreement can always be found.

if it was just the other stuff you can hit toxicological safe zones that become homeopathic, or maybe even claim that natural selection will work here for the benefit of all, maybe in those cases i'd be exadurating the problem (assuming you mean by "problem" the danger, rather than my own personal dilema), but since the main chemical(s) here duck under that evolutionary biological safegaurd, i think it's pretty safe to say that we are up shit creek without a paddle.

if folks aint realising this yet, then either the situation is worse than i had first thought, or they simply havnt absorbed the relevent pieces of the jigsaw which paint this dire situation. ... which may mean the situation is already worse and they are not likely to be able to grasp the danger present before them.




..... to repeat for those not yet getting it.....


aspartame, ascessulfame K,

they have a rotting effect on the brain

makes it harder and harder to take in new information and remember it

...

makes you more stupid and less dangerous to those who want to do things you might normally, with full intelligence, be able and willing to prevent them from doing.


it doesnt easily get removed from the body via the usual means of getting rid of toxins, like via the lymphatic system and pores, sweating, via piss or shit, tears, coughing, sneezing, etc. perhaps largely because the body has a hard time identifying it as a toxin.

so since the body doesn't do this automatically for you, it is imperative that your conscious cognitive abilities take charge of the situation and prevent consumption of this dangerously addictive brain rotting substance...
...before you loose the ability to do so from it's CUMULATIVE effect.




if i'm wrong and you take my advice, no harm done, u just stopped taking something u didnt need anyway. but if i'm correct in all this....

it's not something you really wanna take a chance on is it.



...hence why i think my alarmist ranting is warranted.

someone, please tell me if i'm acting a tad like rodney mckay from stargate atlantis.

edit;
i think i said it pretty effectively here:

Originally Posted by Digit

aspartame though.

no toxicological safe dose. it cannot become homeopathic. it stays in there doing cumulitive damage over time and only accelerates and accumulates as more is added. ...


can you have an intervention with but only one interveanor?


methinks i'll have to restart this thread as there seem to be very few people getting the point and alot of knee jerking at some erroneous mass consensus of being a "diet nazi" when it's precicesly the diet nazis which i am attempting to bring to people's attention.



another thing i wanna make clear. i do not ever tell people something is either "good" or "bad" for them. that is not a simplification of reality i choose to employ anymore. it is simply not useful to me.


anything your biology is crying out for, its crying out for it for a reason. whatever we put in changes our very addaptive bodies. when we addapt to one input, other inputs may be saught to find balance. this is why meat eating and alcohol consumption work well together as a whole diet. this is why magic mushrooms and "spiritual life experience" have a relationship to each other. you got alot of parasites in your bod, you might be atracted to poisons, tobacco and the like to control their number. there is no absolute good and bad. a time for all. all are relative.



so it makes u wonder....

just what is it that we need aspartame for?

what possible need is there for spirit to guide so many of us by hearding hands of right wing authoritarians into consuming a substance that once consumed even once will continue to gnaw away at our minds until we cannot see the web of control errected around us by the right wing authoritarians... what possible need could we have to do that to ourselves? why are we being prepared for? what is our biology attempting to rebalance?

edit 2;

Originally Posted by jcmartin86

alright man, now you're goin a bit too far. lol

garlic goes into just about everything I make. and I'll be damned if anyone's gonna try and tell me it's bad for me. it's a natural thermogenic, for cryin out loud.

I'll set you on fire before that happens haha

yup, just as well i never tried to tell you or anyone else that garlic is "bad" for you, or even to try to prevent anyone from taking it. i wudnt want to be set on fire by some sadistic pyromaniac.

thermogenic
interesting stuff... i (to my memory) had never considered the term thermogenic before, but am familiar with what they are having dealt with raynauds syndrome for years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermogenics

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Thermogenics are dietary supplements used to stimulate the body's burning of fat. Thermogenics increase the metabolism of the body's adipose tissue, generating heat (thermogenesis).

Common thermogenic substances are ephedra, bitter orange, capsicum, ginger and caffeine.

The ECA Stack (ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin) is the most well known thermogenic formulation, popular among bodybuilders as a means to achieve low body fat levels.

Themogenics is also the practice of deliberately exposing the body to very cold temperatures to raise Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR). This is usually done by soaking the body in icy cold water until a person can not tolerate it any longer almost to the point of inducing hypothermia. This then causes a release of thyroxine from the thyroid gland by means of the sympathetic nervous system thus raising BMR resulting in an overall increase in body temperature. The ancient Vikings used to practice this method of thermogenics. This method of thermogenics combined with the ECA Stack mentioned above will produce a very powerful thermogenic response.

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i'll be careful about the quantity of the thermogenics listed here i take in. i take loads of ginger, but shall be a bit more careful on it. my metabolism is already crazy, to the point i have a hard time maintaining weight (typical Vata dosha).

if you're taking garlic for it's thermogenic properties, and at some point decide to test out the Immortal Blood thing (or just see what it's like cutting it outta your diet for a while), it's good to know there are other thermogenics out there to take.

haha... ephedra.... i should try that. lol.

(ephedra is said by some scholars to be an ingredient in soma, as is cannabis)

[primetime21335]

So digit, can you just lay it out for me man? What foods should I not eat because they will rot my brain.

[Digit]

nope, i cant lay it out for u. u gotta take responsibility for yourself. i could be totally full of crap. for all i know aspartame and ascesulfame K could be really good for your brain but i just got duped by a well oiled public fear mongering campaign*. lol.

look this stuff up for yourself.




* really doubt that, having seen what i've seen.

[Digit]

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[scoobydooby67]

ha i liked that requiem for a dream-esque music at the end.

what a godawful public speaker, her points were interesting i must say though.

[Digit]

free will choices.

not just respecting people's choices.


but the genuine free will choices.


if you've been hypnotised, had a gun held to your head, coerced by chemical persuadors and addictors, tricked and mislead, etc.... then it's not a free will choice, and does not fall under the same category of letting people live their own lives / make their own mistakes / make their own choices, because a choice made under duress is no choice at all, being "spiked" is not your choice.

the original question remains, the dilema shifting only slightly.

should all the foods containing substances reputed to diminish one's ability to think and make choices, be dumped?


cos otherwise.... if you've seen that video you'll see.... are we not all headed for certain doom if we do not interviene?

is it not our duty?

y'know...... interventions n the like.... right?


an email i recieved today got me thinking about the distinction of "FREE WILL" choices.

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Mastery Training Modules

Honoring the Free Will Choices of Others

I was thinking about the module on Saving and Rescuing Others and it occured to me that I should discuss a little bit of my take on free will and the importance of honoring the free will choices of others. This one may be a tad more controversial than some of the other ones but if it inspires you to look at things in a different way then that is progress. Grins. Feel free to disagree with me - we are all great masters trying to make sense of a very very dysfunctional planet.

I view free will as one of the foundational cornerstones of the classroom we call Planet Earth. On Earth we are given a wide spectrum of choices between light and dark, love and fear, etc. and free will is central to this mechanism. We grow and evolve as we move more and more deeply into the vibration of love and likewise we plummet, fall, crash and burn as we move more deeply into the vibration of fear....

It is all a wonderful game and many many souls eagerly anticipate their time on this planet because it offers each of us the grand and glorious opportunity to grow by leaps and bounds or the contrary as well but our souls are always very optimistic about the odds. Laughing out loud. If I could have one soul gift it may be to be as optimistic on the personality level as my highest level aspect of my monad is. My second wish is perhaps that my highest level aspect of my monad was less ambitious about the scope of my service work, roles and responsibilities...

Sending Energy to Others

It is very common in the spiritual and healing communities at least in the United States for folks to send people energy to "assist" them. Often this is done after seeking permission but sometimes it is not. Often the person sending the energy has wonderful intent but they also have a very active and powerful shadow aspect, an ego aspect, a personality self and a mental body which often are very subtle and very sophisticated and so what happens is that the energy sent can often become distorted.

When you send folks energy -- especially without their consent -- you often are interfering with their free will ability to make their choices for love or fear. This can be manipulative behavior that may become a source of karma although if permission is sought the karma is greatly mitigated.

I am fairly visible and out there with my world service work and often many well-intentioned people send me energy to assist me without my request or permission and this usually has NOT been a good thing for me. I have some very sophisticated coding that I came in with to do what I need to do in this incarnation and at times energy sent to me from others has created an imbalance I had to heal and clear. And then I have to heal and clear and ameliorate the karma between me and the often unknown source of the energy sent.

After getting energetically hosed several times from this pattern, I asked for help and I was able to empower the highest level aspect of my monad and the Creator to monitor 24 hours a day, seven days a week all energy that is sent to me and to only accept that which was aligned with my highest good and supported my spiritual evolution. I encourage each of you to consider doing the same thing.

Some suggested guidelines if you want to assist others:

Pray for them instead of sending energy. Prayer is very powerful and less tricky energetically. Much of the healing work I facilitate is done via prayer.

If you must send energy to others, ask them for permission first if it is at all possible. Getting permission when sending energy to others never hurts and can save you a lot of energetic grief.

If you must send energy to others, ask the Creator to do so not you. Try not to do anything yourself because you have a shadow, an ego, a personality and a mental body that the Creator does not have.

If you must send energy to others always set the intent to be of service to others and that all energies given, received and exchanged between the two of you will be non-manipulative, will honor the free will of all, be aligned with the highest good of all concerned and will support the spiritual evolution of all sentient beings. This is what I call insurance policy language and I have been using variations of this for years.

If you must send energy to others, send it to the highest level aspect of their monad - NOT to them personally, their soul, their higher self, their OverSoul, their God Self - all of these levels have some ego and shadow distortion.

When very young children are involved like under the age of five, usually the mother can consent on behalf of the child. But most children under five are more evolved than either the mother or the other person so karma to them is more problematic. So before I would send energy to a child, I always would connect with the highest level aspect of the monad of the child and ask for permission to assist them. One of my best friends has a highly evolved daughter and I always connect with the highest level aspect of the monad of her daughter before sending energy and I usually get a strong answer either way which I always honor. When she was very young, I would ask the mother to hold her and ask for permission and see how she reacts.

When dealing with the ego and mental body and shadow and personality aspect of yourself you can never underestimate their power and covert impact on you. I work on myself daily and have done so for years and I always take time to go after healing the next level of each of these aspects of myself and I probably will do this until the day I transition off of this world. I used to think that maybe I would not have to do this but after so many years I am not terribly optimistic about my odds.

Healers

For healers this is a very big deal because we often send energy to others every day. When a client is involved it is fine because the healer has permission to assist that person.

Almost all of my healing work is done remotely whereby people order sessions. To my great horror and dismay when I began out I found that some people who ordered were ordering sessions for another person. I put in big letters if you order sessions on behalf of others get their permission first and I always ask when I see it on the order and most of the time people do get permission.

When people do not get permission before placing an order on behalf of another person, I find that often the person ordering the session wants the person they are ordering the session for to change. And usually they want them to change out of an agenda of their own or ego stuff or shadow stuff. Ironically usually the session they choose for the other person is the one that they really need themselves. I usually encourage them to order it for themself and if they are unwilling to do so, I refund their money. Given a choice between losing money/clients and incurring karma, well karma is eternal until healed, cleared or ameliorated and money is a transitory form of third dimensional energy.

ALWAYS though whenever I send energy to clients who have not directly ordered the session, I ask the Creator to monitor the session to make sure it is non-manipulative and that the energies are sent to the highest level aspect of their monad - which does not accept anything flaky or harmful.

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Much joy and self love to each of you,
Bill

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[Reggin]

I'm eating a Triple Stacker from Burger King with large fries and a large Fanta.

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. I should have gotten Diet Coke. More Aspartame.