Obamas Truth Squad?

[auntiesocial]

Originally Posted by stoned budda

Good liberal, dismiss facts presented and stick to your story instead of confronting the truth.

God, Karl Marx would be pleased.

Sorry, which party presented fake evidence the UN and sent America to war in Iraq?????????



""Care to respond to my discovery that McCain has just as many "truth squads" as Obama, or you just gonna ignore that?""

....can somebody find those damned crickets!!!!.............

[Deutschbag]

Originally Posted by auntiesocial

Sorry, which party presented fake evidence the UN and sent America to war in Iraq?????????



""Care to respond to my discovery that McCain has just as many "truth squads" as Obama, or you just gonna ignore that?""

....can somebody find those damned crickets!!!!.............

Please give me a source that there was fake evidence.

[auntiesocial]

Originally Posted by Deutschbag

Please give me a source that there was fake evidence.

Oo Oo, Deutsch is pitching underhanded rainbows into the wheelhouse!

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/14/sprj.irq.documents/

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security...08someevid.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3596033.stm

http://www.newstatesman.com/200405310014

In my best Chris Berman:
""...it's back, back, wayyyy back......""

[Deutschbag]

Originally Posted by auntiesocial

Oo Oo, Deutsch is pitching underhanded rainbows into the wheelhouse!

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/14/sprj.irq.documents/

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security...08someevid.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3596033.stm

http://www.newstatesman.com/200405310014

In my best Chris Berman:
""...it's back, back, wayyyy back......""

Experts said the suspects include the intelligence services of Iraq's neighbors, other pro-war nations, Iraqi opposition groups or simply con men.
Most rule out the United States, Great Britain or Israel because they said those countries' intelligence services would have been able to make much more convincing forgeries if they had chosen to do so.

The documents had been given to the U.N. inspectors by Britain and reviewed extensively by U.S. intelligence. The forgers had made relatively crude errors that eventually gave them away -- including names and titles that did not match up with the individuals who held office at the time the letters were purportedly written, the officials said. "We fell for it," said one U.S. official who reviewed the documents. A spokesman for the IAEA said the agency did not blame either Britain or the United States for the forgery.

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[auntiesocial]

What's your point?

[IGOTJOINTS4YA]

Originally Posted by auntiesocial

What's your point?

the documents were forgeries buddy...

[stoned budda]

[FONT=MS]www.johnmccaintruthsquad.com,

While i don't agree with the terminology "Truth Squad', there are vast differences between McCain and Barry's Idea of a "Truth Squad".

As you can read in the link, McCains "truth squad" is just a few ex-military buddies who have set this up to defend his military record.

Obama's idea of a "Truth squad" is quote: "made up of Prosecutors and sheriffs from across Missouri are joining something called the "Barack Obama Truth Squad." "they plan to respond immediately to any ads and statements that might violate Missouri ethics laws"

How do prosecutors "respond" to actions they feel violate the law? They prosecute.

They are threatening to bring criminal libel charges against anyone who levels what turns out to be false criticisms of their chosen candidate for President. I doubt most of the criticism levelled against Comrade Empty are false. This is just another attempt by Obama trolls to intimidate opponents. Disgusting.


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[Deutschbag]

Originally Posted by auntiesocial

What's your point?

Yes they were a forgery. The CIA and the FBI fucked up by not identifying it. Colin Powell is not at fault he was given the evidence to put in front of the UN it turned out to be false. It also shows that these were not created by the US.

[auntiesocial]

Budda,
Who has been prosecuted by an Obama truth squad? Unless you can point to a prosecution your point is invalid, at best it is moot.

However, if someone is breaking existing laws, THEY SHOULD BE PROCECUTED. We have the right to free speech, not slander.

I'm not playing a semantics game with you. An Obama truth squad is the same as a McCain truth squad. They were formed for the same reason, have the same agenda, and thus far have acted exactly the same way, and to my knowledge, appropriately.

Pull your skirt down, your hypocrisy is showing!




""Yes they were a forgery. The CIA and the FBI fucked up by not identifying it. Colin Powell is not at fault he was given the evidence to put in front of the UN it turned out to be false. It also shows that these were not created by the US.""

So now you admit they were forgeries? Before you needed proof they were even fake, and now your position has completely changed and the goal posts have been moved. No problem.
In the end GWB and Powell are responsible for what they tell the world community. If they were duped by the CIA and FBI their error is no less excusable. The CIA and FBI "serve at the pleasure of...." whom?

Is it your position that GWB and Powell were just tricked like the rest of us? My position is that the CIA and FBI were instructed by Dick Cheney to produce, steal, invent, imagine, and/or fabricate "evidence" that would persuade the UN and American people war in Iraq was necessary. The Downing St. Memo, Valerie Plame outing, magical yellowcake, and prevalent history back my position.

[stoned budda]

Don't be douche bag, i said they intend to prosecute and i was only displaying the differences between the McCain "truth squad and Barry's "Truth squad'

Interestingly enough it appears its a moot point since Obama's thugs have backed off.


Missouri law officials, including public prosecutors, who were reportedly planning to "respond immediately" to any misleading advertisements against [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]Barack [COLOR=blue! important]Obama[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] if they "might violate Missouri ethics laws," have now backed off the intimidating implications of that report, promising they have no intention of prosecuting anyone.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=76560

[auntiesocial]

<i>Interestingly enough it appears its a moot point since Obama's thugs have backed off.</i>

Oh, is this the part where you admit I was right and call me a douche bag for saying pretty much what you just repeated?

But "thugs"???
Really?
A county Sherriff and D.A.?

Seriously, do you think a person or group, like say The Swift Boat Liars, should face prosecution if slander--which has a very limited application--can be proven?


FYI, to prove slander you must not only prove what was said is a lie but also that the speaker knew at the time it was a lie and said it anyway. This is a really hard charge to prove and is hardly ever brought up.

[Deutschbag]

Originally Posted by auntiesocial

""Yes they were a forgery. The CIA and the FBI fucked up by not identifying it. Colin Powell is not at fault he was given the evidence to put in front of the UN it turned out to be false. It also shows that these were not created by the US.""

So now you admit they were forgeries? Before you needed proof they were even fake, and now your position has completely changed and the goal posts have been moved. No problem.
In the end GWB and Powell are responsible for what they tell the world community. If they were duped by the CIA and FBI their error is no less excusable. The CIA and FBI "serve at the pleasure of...." whom?

Is it your position that GWB and Powell were just tricked like the rest of us? My position is that the CIA and FBI were instructed by Dick Cheney to produce, steal, invent, imagine, and/or fabricate "evidence" that would persuade the UN and American people war in Iraq was necessary. The Downing St. Memo, Valerie Plame outing, magical yellowcake, and prevalent history back my position.

I just wanted to see the source. How has my position completely changed? Did I state my position about the documents?

I believe that the CIA presented information to President Bush, President Clinton, Vice President Gore, Vice President Cheney, and many other high ranking politicians that Iraq had WMD's. Bush just didn't talk he acted thats the only difference between the two Presidents. Even Saddam after he was captured admitted that he wanted to keep the illusion up to scare off Iran, whether that is true or not is up to you to judge. George Tenet believed deep down that Saddam had WMD's. There are videos that show he conspired to use WMD's and acquire them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYvU0dBENOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5p8s...eature=related

Hell there are even stories that the Russians helped move their WMD's out of there.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...023.shtml?s=tn

[auntiesocial]

""I just wanted to see the source. How has my position completely changed? Did I state my position about the documents?""

So, you were just being rhetorical when you asked for sources?
Whatever....


As to the complete lack of any WMDs:
Which is it, the Russians moved them or it was "an illusion"? Your arguments are all over the map. It is like you are just slinging wet noodles at the wall and hoping something sticks!


""Bush just didn't talk he acted thats the only difference between the two Presidents.""

Horseshit! Clinton kept a good watch on Sadam. Enforced necessary sanctions and no-fly zones, and generally didn't get 4,000+ Americans killed over there. The proof is in the absolute domination our forces experienced when we invaded. A fucking girl scout troop would have defended Iraq better than "Sadam's Elite Rep. Guard" did. But Clinton allowed no build-up of arms after the first Gulf War. It is that simple. Had our forces experienced any resistance whatsoever, your might be able to point at Clinton, but they didn't.

Clinton kept Sadam in check.[full stop]

""George Tenet believed deep down that Saddam had WMD's.""

LOL Are you involved in a personal relationship with the guy who resigned in shame over this fiasco? "deep down" man, I feel better now.
Can I have a hug?


Anywho, there are guys at the CIA that don't quite remember it the way Tenet does:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Tape_T...rder_0808.html

[reddertheeye]

ha ha sadams elite republican guard yeah they were the ones with shoes ,weapons of mass destruction mmmm still no sign eh two countries totalled and still no bin laden shoulda just sent in the guys who capped jfk a lot less hassle, mossad would have done em both as a favour anyway ,obama mmm lets see a ray of hope for those of you who think your country is run by your president i suppose.

[RiskyBusiness]

Originally Posted by reddertheeye

ha ha sadams elite republican guard yeah they were the ones with shoes ,weapons of mass destruction mmmm still no sign eh two countries totalled and still no bin laden shoulda just sent in the guys who capped jfk a lot less hassle, mossad would have done em both as a favour anyway ,obama mmm lets see a ray of hope for those of you who think your country is run by your president i suppose.

If somebody can show me a more butchered post, I will be amazed.