Why would you even vote for Obama?

[mbleezy]

Why would you even vote for Obama? He has no experience, no one knows anything about him besides that last year of his life. He has been with a church that openly degrades America. He had his daughter married by the preacher of that same church. He flip flops on most of his opinions depending on what the crowd wants. He only talks about change and does not really describe his own plans. He NEVER fully answers a question.

I DO NOT LIKE EITHER CANDIDATE BUT OUT OF THE TWO MCCAIN IS BETTER!

ISSUES:

Universal Health care- This idea is crap, people do not THINK in depth about this. Yeah it sounds good. Everyone gets health care and everyones happy right? NO. People do not realize how much the quality of care is going to go down. There will be so many people in the hostipals that the wait will be even longer than it is now. With universal heath care also comes more taxes because who is going to pay for it besides tax payers.

Iraq War- The Iraq war is a war. What do people excpet? NO WAR is just simple. It takes time and money... If we were in it for the Oil why are the prices going up? and dont you think that if we were after the oil we would have it already? I agree that it is getting old and that we should reduce the number of troops but we CANNOT just leave all of those people over there without nothing. They will go back to the communists way they were and we would have gone over there for absolutly nothing. And i hate when people say that we should have never went over there. Thats like saying "Oh well that killed 3000 people for no reason. We will forgive you!". And when 9/11 happened EVERYONE wanted to go to war but now that its costing money people dont agree with it.

MCCAIN 2008!!!!!

AND DO NOT JUST VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK, AND THINK ABOUT IT....IF HE WAS WHITE WOULD YOU STILL HAVE CONSIDERED HIM? MAKE SURE YOU ACTUALLY INFOM YOURSELF ABOUT EACH CANDIATE BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION!

And thats just some of my opinions comment back so we can agrue haha



(Sorry if I am off on somethings but I think all the statements made above are true if not look them up and correct me)

[Tray Dub]

F'realsies. mbleezy for politics mod. Save the Iraqis from communism. I'ma start the campaign.

[tfunkadelic]

Originally Posted by Tray Dub

F'realsies. mbleezy for politics mod. Save the Iraqis from communism. I'ma start the campaign.

Yea yea get it get it!

McKizzy bout to get it poppin in this ma!

Originally Posted by mbleezy

(Sorry if I am off on somethings but I think all the statements made above are true if not look them up and correct me)

I think you're a mole person who survives off of trickle down fecal matter in the sewers. Find me hard evidence that says otherwise.

[mbleezy]

I dont know if you were trying to insult me or not, but that just one issue that i talked about, and if your so smart than what other reason did we go to war besides to get Saddam Hussan (sorry for spelling) and stop them from comminting terrorist acts? And if you guys wanna debate with me than do it do not try to be a smart ass.

[mbleezy]

Originally Posted by tfunkadelic

Yea yea get it get it!

McKizzy bout to get it poppin in this ma!






I think you're a mole person who survives off of trickle down fecal matter in the sewers. Find me hard evidence that says otherwise.

Oh and by the way how about you talk about how Obama is going to help the US, and ill be here to contradict you.

[Tray Dub]

Originally Posted by mbleezy

I dont know if you were trying to insult me or not, but that just one issue that i talked about, and if your so smart than what other reason did we go to war besides to get Saddam Hussan (sorry for spelling) and stop them from comminting terrorist acts? And if you guys wanna debate with me than do it do not try to be a smart ass.

No man, you get it. Ignore the other guy, he just hates freedom (for serious).We went to war cuz Hussan really hates freedom and happiness and bunnies. He mistakenly thought those towers were filled with happy bunnies. Jokes on him! So we had to go in and win the war. And people bitch about us spending $720,000,000 a day there! Ungrateful hippies, man. Ungrateful hippies.

[tfunkadelic]

Originally Posted by mbleezy

Oh and by the way how about you talk about how Obama is going to help the US, and ill be here to contradict you.

I will...just as soon as you prove to me that you don't use diarrhea for mouth wash each morning when you wake up in your sewer home.

This forum is for actual debate, not taunting fellow posters because they disagree with you. - Liquidtruth

[tfunkadelic]

Originally Posted by Tray Dub

No man, you get it. Ignore the other guy, he just hates freedom (for serious)

Fuck you too bro!

[Tray Dub]

Originally Posted by tfunkadelic

I will...just as soon as you prove to me that you don't use diarrhea for mouth wash each morning when you wake up in your sewer home.

mbleezy, pics quick! We're losing the argument!

[mbleezy]

Wow your mature, i thought that people here would actually be willing to hold a logical debate but I guess not. How about you grow up than come back.

[Tray Dub]

Originally Posted by mbleezy

Wow people like you are just so cool. You make yourselve feel better by making fun of other people. And did you know that the war has cost about one trillion dollars throughout the whole war. But did you know that the Gas companies are making around 2 trillion dollars a YEAR?...Why arent we standing up against them???
Once again im not here to argue with misinformed people i want to talk with people who actually knows what there talking about.

Just curious, how do you propose we stand up to them? And where do you get your information from? .

Save Iraqis from communism '08

[mbleezy]

I research the cost per barrell, than did math... And I think we should make up a set of BASIC laws for them to follow and thats it. Did you know that we made the constitution for japan it they still have it in effect and its working grand

[wackdeafboy]

^^ agree, the govs are getting out of controll, we need less tax, less gov, more freedom
and, oil companies and health insernce is just getting fuckin ridiculious, gov is not focusin on anything ex money and war...

yes i agree that we should go to war with iraq. but this whole war is just based on lies, couple or more military people knows this but they have to do their jobs, so lets bring the troops home and make revolution against the govs.

[mbleezy]

Originally Posted by wackdeafboy

^^ agree, the govs are getting out of controll, we need less tax, less gov, more freedom
and, oil companies and health insernce is just getting fuckin ridiculious, gov is not focusin on anything ex money and war...

yes i agree that we should go to war with iraq. but this whole war is just based on lies, couple or more military people knows this but they have to do their jobs, so lets bring the troops home and make revolution against the govs.

I like this guy. And yes i agree that our government lied to us but its to late to turn back, we should start to pull out slowly

[Tray Dub]

Originally Posted by mbleezy

I research the cost per barrell, than did math... And I think we should make up a set of BASIC laws for them to follow and thats it. Did you know that we made the constitution for japan it they still have it in effect and its working grand

Okay, so here's your first lesson. Google is your friend. You use him to learn things, so you're not talking out of your ass. I'm glad you at least tried to get a number, but you've gotta realize that not all the money from each barrel of oil goes into the oil company's pockets. They made more like $75 billion last year, not $2 trillion. That's still an estimate from me, but it's based on math done by a good source (edit: Fortune 500, sorry).

http://www.alternat1ve.com/biofuel/2...n-profit-list/

And they do have basic rules. Although the regulations are not as strong as they should be, and a tax on their profits should be instituted (something McCain attacked Obama for supporting, by the way). I'm not even arguing with you, because while your methodology and facts are awful, you're right that we do need to stand up to big oil. But as for Iraq, universal health care, and Obama, you're fundamentally wrong. And I don't want to have to explain why for each topic. Do some damn research before you start spouting shit out of your math.

As for Japan's constitution, who gives a fuck. You're not a snapple cap, I don't want to hear random facts. Give me relevant arguments.