A ''confessional ''thread::: Have you jumped off the obama bandwagon?

[CosmicSerpent]

Originally Posted by chicken

no actually im not,,,,

i mean after all thats been brought out to the open,,,,,,you'd still support this guy,,,,


this guy is way out of his league,,,,hes playing the game,,,,

but as the game goes on,,,,,he's loosing footing,,,,,,

now i aint a mcain supporter,,,,,,but i know a wishy-washy candidate when i see one,,,,

Guess what? Not all of Obama's supporters are black. I'm white and I'm still voting for him. If race was as big of a factor as you claim, then McCain would have had more support from the very beginning.

You're right... AK has shown enthusiasm for the fact that Obama is the first black person to win the nomination of a major party, and could possibly be the first black president. It's understandable. But you'd have to be dumb to think that anyone of his intelligence would base their vote on that. Get over the fact that people genuinely like Obama.

[LoveTheGreen]

Well, Obama is falling in the polls now because McCain is using negative advertising (and it's working), and Obama is not. If Obama wants to win, he has to go negative. The American people don't vote for the "nice guy" who is constantly being attacked and backing down...

If Obama went as negative as McCain is, I think he would win by a decent amount, but as it is, Obama is fucking this up by playing too nice. I expect him to pull out all the stops come October though and go fully negative...

EDIT: I don't think his base is jumping off the bandwagon, I just think the undecideds are responding to the attack ads and changing their minds. Combine that with the Karl Rove strategy of energizing your base (Bible Belt) and McCain is looking good at this particular moment.

[chicken]

Originally Posted by CosmicSerpent

Guess what? Not all of Obama's supporters are black. I'm white and I'm still voting for him. If race was as big of a factor as you claim, then McCain would have had more support from the very beginning.

You're right... AK has shown enthusiasm for the fact that Obama is the first black person to win the nomination of a major party, and could possibly be the first black president. It's understandable. But you'd have to be dumb to think that anyone of his intelligence would base their vote on that. Get over the fact that people genuinely like Obama.

i will....'' FIRMLY'' tell you that a lot of his supporters are on his bandwagon,,,,, and blind to his anti-american retoric,,, and support him simply because of his race,,,,,,,

as stated above,, i have no issue with a black man running this country,,,,,,

but this guy i s,,,,,corrupt,,,,, is plain to see if you only look,,,,,

now '' herman kane'' is electable as a black man,,,,, im gonna throw this link they usually dont work for me but this is his his site,,, and hes a economict,,, which is what we need a reduction in government spending,,,,

..http://herman kane . com

i may have spelled his name wrong?

[AK Infinity]

Originally Posted by chicken

i will....'' FIRMLY'' tell you that a lot of his supporters are on his bandwagon,,,,, and blind to his anti-american retoric,,, and support him simply because of his race,,,,,,,

Could you site some of his "anti-American rhetoric?" Also blacks have supported the Democrat for president for years, what makes Senator Obama any different, or do you think because he's black, blacks should support Senator McCain to prove they aren't biased? Lastly, if blacks support him because he's black why do whites support him? Help us understand brave chicken.

[Zylark]

I just realized something; I shall not involve myself in the US election. Either alternative is shit. Sorry. And that is about it. Have fun discussing what turd smells the best

[chicken]

im just a simple person,, i dont have all the answers,,,,,,

but how can you vote for a man that holds such anti=american issues as obama does.....

he dont see this country as great,,,,,he sees it as a country that oppresses some people,,,,,,

this is a capitalist society,,,,,, be on the forefront of accquiring wealth,, or get lost in the wave of others that go ahead of you,,,,

he raises the eyebrows o the '' GIMMIE=GIMMIE'' society that has been created,,,,,,,

those that think the governement owes them something,,,,,,,

and his 1000.00$ stimulous check,,,,,please you gonna pay me to get you elected.....

THIS GUY IS A FRAUD,,,,,,,, and will be easily beatible,,,,,,

iim waiting for the 3'rd party to take power,,,,, im a third party voter,,,,,

[LoveTheGreen]

Originally Posted by chicken

im just a simple person,, i dont have all the answers,,,,,,

but how can you vote for a man that holds such anti=american issues as obama does.....

he dont see this country as great,,,,,he sees it as a country that oppresses some people,,,,,,

this is a capitalist society,,,,,, be on the forefront of accquiring wealth,, or get lost in the wave of others that go ahead of you,,,,

he raises the eyebrows o the '' GIMMIE=GIMMIE'' society that has been created,,,,,,,

those that think the governement owes them something,,,,,,,

and his 1000.00$ stimulous check,,,,,please you gonna pay me to get you elected.....

THIS GUY IS A FRAUD,,,,,,,, and will be easily beatible,,,,,,

iim waiting for the 3'rd party to take power,,,,, im a third party voter,,,,,

So all you are really saying is that you are not a Liberal?
Actually, ahh, please research this stuff and provide links, because your case is not strong. And how is he easily beatable? McCain is just now starting to take the lead in some polls? I don't mind people who disagree with me, but you you just keep saying the same things over and over...

[AK Infinity]

Originally Posted by chicken

im just a simple person,, i dont have all the answers,,,,,,

but how can you vote for a man that holds such anti=american issues as obama does.....

he dont see this country as great,,,,,he sees it as a country that oppresses some people,,,,,,

this is a capitalist society,,,,,, be on the forefront of accquiring wealth,, or get lost in the wave of others that go ahead of you,,,,

he raises the eyebrows o the '' GIMMIE=GIMMIE'' society that has been created,,,,,,,

those that think the governement owes them something,,,,,,,

and his 1000.00$ stimulous check,,,,,please you gonna pay me to get you elected.....

THIS GUY IS A FRAUD,,,,,,,, and will be easily beatible,,,,,,

iim waiting for the 3'rd party to take power,,,,, im a third party voter,,,,,

Dear God chicken, please inform yourself, please?

[stoned budda]

Originally Posted by Zylark

I just realized something; I shall not involve myself in the US election. Either alternative is shit. Sorry. And that is about it. Have fun discussing what turd smells the best

HaHa, see even we can agree!

[Zylark]

Originally Posted by stoned budda

HaHa, see even we can agree!

I'll believe that when you get a sigg that diss McCain as much as your current do Obama

[linedrivr]

neither of these candidates deserve to be president of the USA. both are incompetent as most of the entire government is. every facit of our govt has major incompetence when it comes to making decisions regarding the running of this country. political scams running rampant should be the theme of all political elections.

Name me one president that has ever kept his campaign promises that got him elected. better yet, name me one politician that followed thru with his/her campaigning promises. ill balance the federal deficit; ill provide healthcare to every american; ill leave no child behind when it comes to education yada yada and mother f'ng yada.

they spew nothing but lies.

take a look at our tax code and the way we are abused by taxation. The annual filing of our taxes does not have to be so complicated but they make it as complicated as possible so that the average person doesnt have a clue as to what is right or wrong in the tax code. so what does the average poor ass american have to do, hire an accountant to do their taxes for them and half of the accountants you hire are clueless to the tax code. they can do ez forms but stroll out a 1040 with attachments and your rolling the dice as to whether or not your taxes are completed correctly by a competant accountant.

Ever call the IRS to ask a question about a eligible deductions or what is deemed income etc? these IRS reps are clueless to their own tax code. after speaking to one and getting your answer. call right back and get a different rep online and ask the same questions. you will be amazed at how different your answers will be.

I could go on for hours but will stop here.

if it were an option, I would vote "none of the above".

what real power does a president have anyways? anything they want done has to be greased to slip and slide thru Congress for approval.

scammers scammers scammers!

[AK Infinity]

Originally Posted by linedrivr

neither of these candidates deserve to be president of the USA. both are incompetent as most of the entire government is. every facit of our govt has major incompetence when it comes to making decisions regarding the running of this country. political scams running rampant should be the theme of all political elections.

Name me one president that has ever kept his campaign promises that got him elected. better yet, name me one politician that followed thru with his/her campaigning promises. ill balance the federal deficit; ill provide healthcare to every american; ill leave no child behind when it comes to education yada yada and mother f'ng yada.

they spew nothing but lies.

take a look at our tax code and the way we are abused by taxation. The annual filing of our taxes does not have to be so complicated but they make it as complicated as possible so that the average person doesnt have a clue as to what is right or wrong in the tax code. so what does the average poor ass american have to do, hire an accountant to do their taxes for them and half of the accountants you hire are clueless to the tax code. they can do ez forms but stroll out a 1040 with attachments and your rolling the dice as to whether or not your taxes are completed correctly by a competant accountant.

Ever call the IRS to ask a question about a eligible deductions or what is deemed income etc? these IRS reps are clueless to their own tax code. after speaking to one and getting your answer. call right back and get a different rep online and ask the same questions. you will be amazed at how different your answers will be.

I could go on for hours but will stop here.

if it were an option, I would vote "none of the above".

what real power does a president have anyways? anything they want done has to be greased to slip and slide thru Congress for approval.

scammers scammers scammers!

And? What is your solution because these are the candidates we have and this is the government we elected?

[Salvial]

In my honest opinion, both candidates will be detrimental to the overall prosperity of America in different ways that will have the same endgame. Fuck them both. Neither of them deserve a bandwagon.

[stoned budda]

Originally Posted by Zylark

I'll believe that when you get a sigg that diss McCain as much as your current do Obama

I didn't say we agree on everything.

[AugustWest]

Originally Posted by Zylark

I shall not involve myself in the US election.

excellent idea.