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Just so we're clear, Iran has no nuke and isn't planning on building one.

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U.S. Agencies See No Move by Iran to Build a Bomb | NY Times

February 24, 2012

WASHINGTON — Even as the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog said in a new report Friday that Iran had accelerated its uranium enrichment program, American intelligence analysts continue to believe that there is no hard evidence that Iran has decided to build a nuclear bomb.

Recent assessments by American spy agencies are broadly consistent with a 2007 intelligence finding that concluded that Iran had abandoned its nuclear weapons program years earlier, according to current and former American officials. The officials said that assessment was largely reaffirmed in a 2010 National Intelligence Estimate, and that it remains the consensus view of America’s 16 intelligence agencies.


'Mossad, CIA agree Iran has yet to decide to build nuclear weapon' | HAARETZ

18.03.12

Israel’s intelligence services agree with American intelligence assessments that there is not enough proof to determine whether Iran is building a nuclear bomb, according to a report published Sunday in the New York Times.



IDF chief to Haaretz: I do not believe Iran will decide to develop nuclear weapons

25.04.12

Iran, Gantz says, "is going step by step to the place where it will be able to decide whether to manufacture a nuclear bomb. It hasn't yet decided whether to go the extra mile."


Israel ex-security chief says leadership 'misleading public' on Iran | BBC


The former head of Israel's domestic intelligence agency has accused the country's leadership of "misleading" the public on the merits of a possible military strike on Iran.

Yuval Diskin said an attack might speed up any attempt by Iran to obtain a nuclear bomb.


Has the Iran war drumming been on the quiet side lately?

Edited by Swills, 29 April 2012 - 02:46 AM.


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My father mentioned that the other day


"you know, the news has been awfully quiet about Iran lately"





:rolleyes:

meanwhile, in Iran


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The news has been quiet because that's how it works. The war propaganda build up takes time. The people are tired of the middle east involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. So they are giving the public small doses of war propaganda at a time. This slow buildup is what makes the lies so effective. Effective brainwashing occurs slowly, not with sudden blunt force. The more the lie gets repeated, the more it takes hold with the sheeple. So the propaganda up to now has been imo a prelude. A setting of the stage.

They will make small withdraws from other countries to appease the masses. Then once the people are satisfied, the Iran propaganda will hit in full force and potentially drive us into World World 3. Some type of false flag operation seems very likely as the catalyst.

I'd swear the neocons were a bunch of fucking morons for thinking their war mongering would actually become policy, but it has.. :confused_2:

I pray that I'm wrong about all of this.

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I'll almost feel bad if we attack Iran. They are a modern civilization similar to many western nations and are Persian.

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I'll almost feel bad if we attack Iran. They are a modern civilization similar to many western nations and are Persian.


Almost feel bad? It will result in the death of many thousands of innocent people. I feel horrible for all those caught up in the tentacles of the US military empire.

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Almost feel bad? It will result in the death of many thousands of innocent people. I feel horrible for all those caught up in the tentacles of the US military empire.


pretty much summed it up

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My father mentioned that the other day


"you know, the news has been awfully quiet about Iran lately"





:rolleyes:

meanwhile, in Iran


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no way is that iran! for real?

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U.S. Agencies See No Move by Iran to Build a Bomb | NY Times



'Mossad, CIA agree Iran has yet to decide to build nuclear weapon' | HAARETZ




IDF chief to Haaretz: I do not believe Iran will decide to develop nuclear weapons



Has the Iran war drumming been on the quiet side lately?

I think these guys missed the memo...

Despite sanctions, Iran shows no change in nuclear ambitions

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No thats not Iran. This is Iran:

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-Courtesy of the Mainstream Media

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I think these guys missed the memo...

Despite sanctions, Iran shows no change in nuclear ambitions


Kenneth Katzman a Middle East specialist at the Congressional Research Service.


Kenneth Katzman


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BOOM!

I see! I was a fool to think the war mongering was on the decline. The article was posted today :laughing:. Nice find

You know what pisses me off? The links they use as source just take you to a homepage, not the article they insinuate is written :rolleyes:

Edited by Swills, 26 April 2012 - 04:44 AM.


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no way is that iran! for real?


yeah lol. Iran is known for its mountains and stuff, a lot of professional hikers have been there in the past i believe

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yeah lol. Iran is known for its mountains and stuff, a lot of professional hikers have been there in the past i believe


2009

Like these guys! ;)

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Just wrote a paper over the possibility of Iran building nukes and using them.

Yea, not gonna happen.

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Almost feel bad? It will result in the death of many thousands of innocent people. I feel horrible for all those caught up in the tentacles of the US military empire.



No offense but shit happens in war, there is going to be collateral damage any time military operations are carried out. What are you expecting, seriously?

By the way, Iran isn't the little peaceful country you think it is.

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No offense but shit happens in war, there is going to be collateral damage any time military operations are carried out. What are you expecting, seriously?

By the way, Iran isn't the little peaceful country you think it is.


How about no war whatsoever! And as for your last statement prove that Iran is an actual threat to the mighty United States Empire.

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No offense but shit happens in war, there is going to be collateral damage any time military operations are carried out. What are you expecting, seriously?

By the way, Iran isn't the little peaceful country you think it is.


Oh I forgot when it's called "collateral damage" it's ok to be emotionless about the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians...

No offense but you're a piece of shit.

Name-calling and disrespect is not tolerated here - WW

Edited by WildWill, 27 April 2012 - 07:29 PM.


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No offense but shit happens in war, there is going to be collateral damage any time military operations are carried out. What are you expecting, seriously?

By the way, Iran isn't the little peaceful country you think it is.

Given that we imposed the brutal dictatorship which led to the Islamic revolution, their longstanding grudge with us is an example of the snake biting its own tail.

We owe Iran an apology, not an invasion.

I'm not saying it's a peaceful country. Hell they basically rule Syria and Lebanon as proxy kingdoms. They were sponsoring sabotage against our war efforts in Iraq. I think war with them is bullshit, but if you want to argue for war with Iran, at least argue for it with things that are true, not made up nuclear hysteria meant to manipulate you.

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Oh I forgot when it's called "collateral damage" it's ok to be emotionless about the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians...

No offense but you're a piece of shit.



I'm not emotionless, war is a hell and should not be taken lightly. Some of humanities worst moments have stemmed from war, and after you take all the negative traits of war into account... it is a necessary 'evil'.

No offense, what's with the name calling? You don't even know me, get the roach out of your ass sir and lets have a respectable conversation. :smoke::D

@james2912 - Iran is not a threat to the US, Iran is a threat to neighboring countries and especially Israel. I never said Iran was a problem for the US in particular. As much as I'd like for world peace and all that riff raff to occur, it is a pipe dream. Humanity will wage war, and continue to wage war until the end of our civilization be it at the hands of mother nature herself, fighting amongst ourselves, or an advanced alien civilization.
War and fighting is a part of life just like mating and eating is. You are more than welcome to keep dreaming about a world with war not existing, just know it conflicts with reality.

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I'm not emotionless, war is a hell and should not be taken lightly. Some of humanities worst moments have stemmed from war, and after you take all the negative traits of war into account... it is a necessary 'evil'.

No offense, what's with the name calling? You don't even know me, get the roach out of your ass sir and lets have a respectable conversation. :smoke::D

@james2912 - Iran is not a threat to the US, Iran is a threat to neighboring countries and especially Israel. I never said Iran was a problem for the US in particular. As much as I'd like for world peace and all that riff raff to occur, it is a pipe dream. Humanity will wage war, and continue to wage war until the end of our civilization be it at the hands of mother nature herself, fighting amongst ourselves, or an advanced alien civilization.
War and fighting is a part of life just like mating and eating is. You are more than welcome to keep dreaming about a world with war not existing, just know it conflicts with reality.


I never said there are not just wars, just that there should be no war against Iran. Israel is far more advanced and powerful than Iran and could wipe Iran off the map. War is sometimes necessary, but our current wars are definitely not necessary. The last necessary war we had was World War 2 all of these other wars are wars of imperialism.




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