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Let's Look at the Underlying Truth that All is One
#1
Posted 16 May 2012 - 06:05 AM
If we really look at the premise of it, what is that really saying? If everything is one, then what is anything. Would that indicate that I am everything, as everything or does it have a more transcendental meaning? The way I look at it is the same way quantum physicists look at it. They have discovered the ineffable and elusive nature of the atomic particle, that if they measure its speed they can't track its location and if they measure its location they can't track its speed. Further, atomic particles are only atomic particles when observed and are classically waves, indefinite forms of energy otherwise.
So, simultaneously, an atomic particle is, yet is not really. There is no inherent identity to it per say because the minute you try to label it as anything it disappears into elusiveness and not being anything particularly at all (intractable in space/light wave).
Therefore, I feel that the general assumption behind the meaning that everything is one is less of additive reasoning and more of a subtractive statement. Meaning: there is nothing to add to reality and what is because it already is complete, whole, and perfect. Rather, to understand this realization you have to subtract 'you' and 'your' ideas of 'reality', 'things', etc to realize it. As in, the idea that everything being one is extremely evanescent to the point that there truly is no substantial thing or entity that can be declared as such. So much to the point where it is less of 'you' extending and saying, "oh i am one with that tree, that tree is no different than me", and more "there is no true substantive nature of anything, neither that tree, nor me, nor even this thought as all abides in ultimate openness and is free beyond extremes".
And there lies the field of oneness, it's not that we are one is having substantial existences with the rest of what is deemed reality, but that we are one in not being able to be deemed in having either substantial existences, non-substantial existences, neither nor both.
Therefore, you may look far and wide for where 'you' are if everything is one and you won't find a single representative source for what or where 'you' are. As in you are not the oneness, you don't lie in any form or object, you don't add up to the collective effect of all things, but more that 'you' are self-liberated into yourself and freed from ever ideas of being anything in particular.
In other words, 'you' are an ultimate, unlimited expanse of not being anything at all, and that is what any of this is.
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#2
Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:54 PM
#3
Posted 17 May 2012 - 04:28 AM
Is gives rise to is not. (Is and is not give rise to a myriad of things.)
It cannot be created or destroyed.
Then what is it?
This.
#4
Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:22 AM
Unity in non-duality, not oneness.
Is gives rise to is not. (Is and is not give rise to a myriad of things.)
It cannot be created or destroyed.
Then what is it?
This.
Beautiful my friend!
#5
Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:57 PM
The idea of everything being one has been around for millenia, since the time of the Buddha and even before. It's an interesting assertion as to the nature of reality and I therefore come to it with a scientifically reasoning mind.
If we really look at the premise of it, what is that really saying? If everything is one, then what is anything. Would that indicate that I am everything, as everything or does it have a more transcendental meaning? The way I look at it is the same way quantum physicists look at it. They have discovered the ineffable and elusive nature of the atomic particle, that if they measure its speed they can't track its location and if they measure its location they can't track its speed. Further, atomic particles are only atomic particles when observed and are classically waves, indefinite forms of energy otherwise.
So, simultaneously, an atomic particle is, yet is not really. There is no inherent identity to it per say because the minute you try to label it as anything it disappears into elusiveness and not being anything particularly at all (intractable in space/light wave).
Therefore, I feel that the general assumption behind the meaning that everything is one is less of additive reasoning and more of a subtractive statement. Meaning: there is nothing to add to reality and what is because it already is complete, whole, and perfect. Rather, to understand this realization you have to subtract 'you' and 'your' ideas of 'reality', 'things', etc to realize it. As in, the idea that everything being one is extremely evanescent to the point that there truly is no substantial thing or entity that can be declared as such. So much to the point where it is less of 'you' extending and saying, "oh i am one with that tree, that tree is no different than me", and more "there is no true substantive nature of anything, neither that tree, nor me, nor even this thought as all abides in ultimate openness and is free beyond extremes".
And there lies the field of oneness, it's not that we are one is having substantial existences with the rest of what is deemed reality, but that we are one in not being able to be deemed in having either substantial existences, non-substantial existences, neither nor both.
Therefore, you may look far and wide for where 'you' are if everything is one and you won't find a single representative source for what or where 'you' are. As in you are not the oneness, you don't lie in any form or object, you don't add up to the collective effect of all things, but more that 'you' are self-liberated into yourself and freed from ever ideas of being anything in particular.
In other words, 'you' are an ultimate, unlimited expanse of not being anything at all, and that is what any of this is.
both Jesus and Buddha, the maya, egyptians, alanteans.. i could probabaly go on as well.. all refered to us as "the children of light" -buddha said "we are made of but clear white light'
it's true, all wavi-cles are dense light. vibrating at differing rates.
and it's weird.. i've started reading more into the explanation of the idea light is created by the oscillation of magnetic lines.
Edited by TomcatJones, 17 May 2012 - 09:09 PM.
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