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[Natural Mystic]

Originally Posted by grass roots

danger number one for who

when fanatical terrorists start blowing up your buildings, tell me how you want your government to respond...

what about when the US go bombing other countries for no reason.. except gaining more power and money... isn't that the same thing as terrorism?

yes 9/11 was terrorism, but thats what the us have been doing to other countries, so whats the difference?

if bush said "we will use force if necessary" then no one can argue.. because you can't force anyone to be free!

[grass roots]

Originally Posted by Natural Mystic

what about when the US go bombing other countries for no reason.. except gaining more power and money... isn't that the same thing as terrorism?

when did this happen? i seem to have missed a war somewhere...

yes 9/11 was terrorism, but thats what the us have been doing to other countries, so whats the difference?

what the hell are you talking about? when did america fly two commercial airliners into two civilian buildings resulting in the death of thousands of innocent lives??

[Natural Mystic]

Originally Posted by grass roots

when did this happen? i seem to have missed a war somewhere...

lets just use the war in iraq for example.. and plus theres a whole bunch of other shit that you never hear about in the news...

Originally Posted by grass roots

what the hell are you talking about? when did america fly two commercial airliners into two civilian buildings resulting in the death of thousands of innocent lives??

i didn't mean that literally.. i just meant bombings in general.

[thccrystals]

Originally Posted by mooglekexin

http://forum.grasscity.com/showthrea...&highlight=dna is a good place to start, do a search on 9/11 fpr more

What do you have to say about the phone calls??

[Mr Skinner]

Originally Posted by grass roots

when did this happen? i seem to have missed a war somewhere...

Yup...like Panama and Cuba...


United Fruit??? Ring a bell???




Edit: I'm not getting into this one...tired of them now. Just had to point this out...

[Grim Bongmaster]

.....if you had your own planet..it would take you your whole life just to explore that mother fucker, what kind of life would that be?.....deep man...deep...

[Gri77oN]

Originally Posted by thccrystals

5 years ago people didn't expect dirty terrorist fuckers, mostly from saudi arabia, to hijack planes and fly them into buildings. 'Wake up', lol you should go to sleep.

actually yes you did (the fbi knew, the french services knew)

so you're telling me something that show one VERY GOOD POINT:
the media corpo in the us has not told the citizens that fbi knew, french secret services, InterPol knew, and all these institutions had /warned/ the US gov.

just as the US gov perfeclty knew pearl harbor was about to be bombarded, but let it happen in order to [whatever out of the thread subject] .

your argument weigh in favor of what i support, thank you for bringing it up.




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Originally Posted by mooglekexin

something about the whole government inquiry just doesnt add up, too many inconsistencies, i am yet to be shown good enough evidence of it NOT being a total government cover up, i remember some good threads here on the subject

the argument is research to check that informations, feeded to american citizens.through the corporate media, tools of mob manipulation.
(we all know that it is FOXNews that elected bush, not the ballots)


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I STILL HAVE YET TO HAVE AN ANSWER :

THE SECURITY COUNCIL SAYS "NO" , what's stopping Bush to still go and bombard/invade the country ?






NOTE : WHAT IF ARE NOT IRRELEVANT: there are tools of the mind, tools to explore alternate realities, alternate strains of thoughts.
when you read "what if" the mental exercise i'm proposing to you is "put yourself in a situation where. [tatata]" and observe how you would then think/feel/act ..
It's a powerfull method to widen one's mind. problem is it requires from the start an open mind.

[Gri77oN]

Originally Posted by grass roots

when did this happen? i seem to have missed a war somewhere...

ssay are you the kind of american that only watch and listens to news /brought to him/ by the media corpo ?

or do you use the Internet to /seek out/ information?

vbecause of course there will no be newsflash on cnn or fox like

"in forein news the us army is happy to report that we have indeed succefully invaded another country. The contracts for rreconstrutcion will allow the american economy to sustain itself another 3 years or so, then the country will be ready to buy our cocacola, our soaps, our adds. The cost of the bombs will be paid by the inhabitants left or they will not get any materials to reconstruc the homes."

that you don't hear on the media-corpo controled news.

that's the kind of news you have to dig for.

i suggest some starting point:
International Court of Justice
Amnesty International
Human Rights Watch
etc etc...

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[Gilligan]

Originally Posted by sidious

only one place the blame lies as far as the rest of the world is concerned.........you go messing with other countries affairs, the end result may not allways turn out the way it was intended.

Escuse me while i get baxck in my chair. I laughed so hard i fell out.

A very small part of iraw was damaged. The major cities are THE ONLY PLACE violene is still existing, that that is where most major combat is happeneing.

Not EVERYONE like you claim is homeless. GO find some pictures frompeople who have been there instead of from your newspaper.

I agree though, i dont like some of our policies backing rouge govts for our gain. We helped Osama Bin Laden and now look

[Gri77oN]

Originally Posted by Gilligan

A very small part of iraq was damaged. [blablabla]

but you: USA still went to meddle in another country' sovering right to see it's own future the way it wants it.

USA /has no rights/ to meddle in foreing countries' political/economical future.

actualy the International Court Of Justice /HAS ORDERED USA NOT TO/ .

but hey:


"WE WILL USE FORCE IF NECESSARY"

[Gilligan]

Originally Posted by Gri77oN

but you: USA still went to meddle in another country' sovering right to see it's own future the way it wants it.

There is no outcry for us to leave. Our meddling is for a greater cause. I dont think they elected hussain. I dont think is popularity poll was very high.

[Gri77oN]

Originally Posted by Gilligan

There is no outcry for us to leave.

until I go there myself, any news comming from irak i take with great DOUBT.

Originally Posted by Gilligan

Our meddling is for a greater cause.

so? is that an argument to go in another country and meddle in their affair?
the INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE answered that question:
NO, IT'S NOT.
and ordered the usa not to do so.

Originally Posted by Gilligan

I dont think they elected hussain. I dont think his popularity poll was very high.

i don't think american citizens elected bush, I dont think his popularity poll was very high, i'm gonna send my armu to bombard washington to ashes.





















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that made you laugh didn't it.

but

"WHAT IF"

i had the biggest army and had already done something like that ... ?

[mooglekexin]

Originally Posted by Gilligan

There is no outcry for us to leave. Our meddling is for a greater cause. I dont think they elected hussain. I dont think is popularity poll was very high.

what greater caue is this? you have destroyed the countires political way of working, there are now rival factions blowing the shit out of each other vying (how do ya spell that?) for power, sure hussain was a dick, but there was NO PROOF he had anything or was planning anything

[Gilligan]

Originally Posted by Gri77oN

i don't think american citizens elected bush, I dont think his popularity poll was very high, i'm gonna send my armu to bombard washington to ashes.

WHO ELECTED HIM? I CANGT HELP YOU IF YOU CANT ADMIT FACT. I KNOW, HE IS THE LIKE THE WIZARD OF OZ?

IM WAITING FOR ANOTHER SUPER INDEPTH ANALYSIS OF OUR PROBLEMS.

SEND EM IN!

[Grim Bongmaster]

I don't care what anyone says...^^ that's fuckin hillarious!!