Ecstasy, LSD and cannabis 'less dangerous' than booze and cigs

[Mystmoore]

I don't think as many people use ecstacy as beer or alcohol... it's not really the same comparison.

[greengrass1]

if you live in amsterdam your fucking lucky, you buy the best weed at a fucking store, i gotta wait 4 months for da shit to grow or i gotta pay $20.00 for one gram of the good shit. i fucking hate the USA. im moving to amsterdam.

[poncho]

Sacked – for telling the truth about drugs - Health News, Health & Families - The Independent


dude this isn't a good thing!! they fired him because he said this

[poncho]

Originally Posted by RebelINS

disagreeing with science and facts? mmmhmmm

it's rather simple. Booze kills hundreds of thousands, Cigs kill millions. Ecstasy kills less than 40 people a year, and ALL of them are due to overheating, which is absolutely EASILY avoidable.

absolutely, if you die on ecstasy from overheating it was probably just a matter of time before you locked yourself in a freezer or somethin stupid like that

[RebelINS]

Originally Posted by Mystmoore

I don't think as many people use ecstacy as beer or alcohol... it's not really the same comparison.

Millions of people use ecstasy, its the second highest used illicit drug next to cannabis. It really is the same comparison. That's why we weed smokers get off on weed never killing anyone. Ecstasy kills 40 people. Cigarettes kill 5 million worldwide. 40/5,000,000. Ecstasy kills .000008% as many people as cigarettes. And beer is alcohol, for the record. Please use your brain, its a terrible thing to waste

[light green]

how about you quit bickering..

[420lover420]

Originally Posted by RebelINS

Millions of people use ecstasy, its the second highest used illicit drug next to cannabis. It really is the same comparison. That's why we weed smokers get off on weed never killing anyone. Ecstasy kills 40 people. Cigarettes kill 5 million worldwide. 40/5,000,000. Ecstasy kills .000008% as many people as cigarettes. And beer is alcohol, for the record. Please use your brain, its a terrible thing to waste

Correct......

Shit, if our government keeps these illegal, well fuck, we're keeping a plant illegal that's less dangerous than sugar, which is practically every food we eat, realize it or not.

Shit man, processed food is more dangerous than the natural herb.

Now, tell me, if you weren't a stoner, well just look.

"Hmm, should I eat this processed chocolate bar and risk diabetes, or should I smoke the natural herb and risk nothing other than being caught by idiots with to much power?

On one hand, I can DIE from diabetes, on the other I could go to jail for a night, what to choose oh what to choose "

[greengrass1]

Originally Posted by 420lover420

Correct......

Shit, if our government keeps these illegal, well fuck, we're keeping a plant illegal that's less dangerous than sugar, which is practically every food we eat, realize it or not.

Shit man, processed food is more dangerous than the natural herb.

Now, tell me, if you weren't a stoner, well just look.

"Hmm, should I eat this processed chocolate bar and risk diabetes, or should I smoke the natural herb and risk nothing other than being caught by idiots with to much power?

On one hand, I can DIE from diabetes, on the other I could go to jail for a night, what to choose oh what to choose "

LOL, you are so right. the reason the gov won't make marijuana legal is because the trouble it will bring thing this country. THE US OF A CAN't HANDLE MARIJUANA people will smoke it doing anything, but if you make it illegal to the the public only those people that would take the chance of being locked up will do it in a way which is the best IN THE DARK. THE US of A can't handle this thing we smoke so much of, making it legal is like making aclohal legal for every age. Just think of what will happend as a effect of this being legal.

[AnimalCollectEV]

Originally Posted by greengrass1

LOL, you are so right. the reason the gov won't make marijuana legal is because the trouble it will bring thing this country. THE US OF A CAN't HANDLE MARIJUANA people will smoke it doing anything, but if you make it illegal to the the public only those people that would take the chance of being locked up will do it in a way which is the best IN THE DARK. THE US of A can't handle this thing we smoke so much of, making it legal is like making aclohal legal for every age. Just think of what will happend as a effect of this being legal.

The problem is that corporations form ' public opinions ' and govern what is right and what is wrong via nice vacations to politicians. After the first time I smoked marijuana, I realized how fucked up the government actually is, and how much of a lie our freedoms really are. I've been drunk off my ass, I could barely stand, knocking everything over, I wasn't able to speak without slurring my speech. I was violent, feeling like I could beat the shit out of anyone. But I go everywhere as high as a kite, I'm open armed to everyone, I'm peaceful when I'm on that ganja, I can function, speak clearly, act completely sober. It's a shame how much of a lie the government is putting on about marijuana. Just look at the way people act when they are drunk as opposed to someone who is blazed. It's fucking sad that the majority of americans are to brain-washed to realize that. Pot = Peace, and Peace won't get our government more oil will it? No way. Sorry if that didn't make sense, I'm super duper bakin

[Miklelottesen]

Originally Posted by poncho

Sacked – for telling the truth about drugs - Health News, Health & Families - The Independent


dude this isn't a good thing!! they fired him because he said this

Well, it certainly looks bad for legalization if gov. officials gets fired for telling the truth.. So basically if you're unwilling to lie, you can't work at the gov.?

[Miklelottesen]

Originally Posted by light green

how about you quit bickering..

How can LSD, anabolic steroids and ecstasy be less dangerous than cannabis? Would those independent experts rather that people took steroids than smoking cannabis?

[light green]

cannabis isn't completely harmless. there are a lot of negative things that come from burning any matter and inhaling the smoke. just because it's natural doesn't mean it's safer than something man made.

poison berries are natural while ibuprophen is man made. would you rather eat 2 advil or eat two poison berries?

and if you look at the graph the harm level difference between cannabis all the way to ecstasy is really really close. they're all about the same level of dangerous.

it's not that they'd rather anybody do anything. it's just the facts.

[Miklelottesen]

Originally Posted by light green

cannabis isn't completely harmless. there are a lot of negative things that come from burning any matter and inhaling the smoke. just because it's natural doesn't mean it's safer than something man made.

poison berries are natural while ibuprophen is man made. would you rather eat 2 advil or eat two poison berries?

and if you look at the graph the harm level difference between cannabis all the way to ecstasy is really really close. they're all about the same level of dangerous.

it's not that they'd rather anybody do anything. it's just the facts.

Point taken, but marijuana can also be vaped and eaten. The graph doesn't say "smoked cannabis".. And I still believe steroids should be higher on the list; they're directly physically harmful.

[light green]

well man, i didn't make the graph. apparently that's what the scientists say is the truth. i trust that that's the truth. it definitely says that the majority of illegal drugs are safer than tobacco and alcohol.

i figured you were going to say something about it not saying smoked cannabis but i figure they went off the most common way marijuana is used. which is smoked. but as i said, i didn't make the graph.

and from what i know about steroids if used correctly they are very very safe. it's the people who use extreme doses of it that get into trouble. but the same goes for everything, extreme doses of cannabis can be lethal. it's just not as concentrated as steroids. it is possible to overdose on cannabis. just not plausible by average consumption. if you could get extracted cannabinoids and ingest it or shoot it up i'm sure it'd be fairly easy to do serious harm to yourself. same goes with everything else.

[Miklelottesen]

Originally Posted by light green

it is possible to overdose on cannabis. just not plausible by average consumption. if you could get extracted cannabinoids and ingest it or shoot it up i'm sure it'd be fairly easy to do serious harm to yourself. same goes with everything else.

dude, you have to smoke like 65 kilos of weed to die and it isn't even cannabinoids that kill you. also, you'd obviously die from smoke poisoning before too long, if you don't fall asleep or pass out. The only way to possibly OD on thc would be to inject larger quantities of it into your blood or have a gas mask strapped to you with smoke constantly flowing and that's not gonna happen unless you're a monkey..