i want to be a cop

[woody]

Great thread! Actually most cops in Holland are really cool. Some time ago I was on a party at a friends house and one of his friends was a cop. A big bowl of home grown was passing round and that guy was the biggest toker by far! Probably he's a dirty cop because a clean one cannot afford heavy golden necklaces and a Rolex... LOL! And did I mention that his wife is a prostitute... ROTFLMAO, a pot head-pimp-cop but otherwise a very nice guy.
Also there was this item on tv about a whole group of cops dealing weed coke and XTC on duty! I wonder where that came from
Peace.

[Mustard]

Originally posted by d2000
whats everyones problem with cops anyway??

Most people whom are teenagers or in their early twenties have a distinct hatred for cops for a few reasons.

1. Think it's fucking cool to rebel. The "Fight The Power" bullshit that a lot of teenagers and young adults subscribe to and eat up so easily.

2. Some, have had bad experiences with cops. But in my experience the majority that say "Fuck the police" havn't had to deal with them, resort up to Statement 1.

3. A lot of the people who have the "Fuck the police" attitude never take into consideration the nature of the police officer's job.

4. Most teenagers/young adults, NEVER EVER want to take responsibility for any action they have takin that has caused them to get busted.

There are a few other reason but at the moment, at 5:27 in the morning I'm not going to try to think of them. However I am going to address my statements 1-4 in a little more detail. Also with these statements I am speaking directly to those that it applies to. If it does not apply to you, don't take offense.

Statement 1:

You have all met this kind of person. Mindlessly hating the Government and police for no better reason than they caught the attitude from a friend. I've been there, done that. In many respects still hate the Government, especially the president. But thats a whole other subject. However now days I try to back up my beliefs with facts, not "Well... the Government is corrupt, it's bullshit, the police are puppets,... yadda, yadda, yadda." Though some of it may be true in some cases, opinions mean nothing during a subject such as this, unless backed up by facts.

Statement 2:

I myself have had a moderatly bad experience with cops. Not in the sense that I've been pulled over, arrested, busted or anything like that. I have a clean slate in the books, and I plan to keep it that way. But I have had conversations with cops that just pissed me off. I and a friend have gone up to a few portland city police officers and asked them the jist of a routine traffic stop. We questioned them about the fact a mutual friend had been pulled over for having a broken tail light. But when pulled over the officer stepped out of the car, ducked behind his door and drew his weapon. We thought it was a little excessive given the fact it was a routine traffic stop. One cop was nice the other was a dick. The nice one offered the comment "Well, as an officer, we do what we can to ensure we are going home at night." That right there is a very respectible, and understandible comment. Does it really justify pulling a gun out during a routine traffic stop? I am not to be the judge of that, the cop is. The other guy who was a dick, suggested "Well, how do you not know your friend wasn't lieing?" That was a disrespectful comment, especially to say to a couple people who were talking to them respectifully. That is my experience with cops. Which some of you may say that the fact I havn't been busted is the reason I don't have an utter distaste for cops. So be it, it may be partially true. However, I'm certainly happy I don't have a jaded opinion of the cops.

Statement 3:

The nature of a police officer's job is a sticky, smelly, mushy, pile of shit. As a police officer they have to deal with the fucking scum of the earth. Also, people need to realize, especially teenagers and young adults, the other day the cop that stopped you stopped a person that looks just like you. And though you may have talked to him respectfully and cooperated, the other guy was a dick to the officer. After a while this kind of shit even the best of cops become jaded. Which is why many of them come off as assholes. Not saying any of this is a good thing. For best mental health being jaded is NEVER a good thing. However in their line of work they usually bring it right up to your door. Now, under the law many of us on the message board are criminals, maybe not career criminals, but we are still criminals. Under some circumstance it shouldn't be so. But some on here I'm sure have done some illegal shit, that should be illegal no questions asked (myself included). When people of our standing have to deal with the cops it is usually never a good thing. Most are treated like everyday criminals for smoking a plant, as wrong as we may feel that is, it's the nature of our beliefs and practice. The second you choose to smoke you are taking the responsibility upon yourself that whatever happens good or bad it is your fault. Many don't like to accept that, I'll talk about that more in the next statement. All of this causes most to become jaded. Just like the cops. Yes, I am comparing every single one of the jaded fuckers on the board and in the world to police, but only in one aspect.


Statement 4:

It is a general thing for all human beings to not want to feel responsible for getting busted under any circumstance. Whether it by the cops, your mother, your grandparent. It feels shitty, and sometimes it feels just plain wrong to be judged and busted for some of the stuff. But like I mentioned before, when doing illegal shit (whether rightfully illegal or not) you are responsible for whatever trouble you get into. And if you don't have the fucking nerve, balls or maturity to deal with that. I advise you to smoke your last bowl, clean your pipe/bong/whatever put it away and continue smoking when you're ready to deal with it. People these days who do illegal shit blame their fucking problems on cops. As if through some mystical powers the cop made you smoke, made you put the pipe under your seat, made you drive while under the influence, made you put the bud in your pocket, etc. If you get caught, it's the nature of your actions that got you caught. Deal with it, get over it.

The cops may do some fucked up things. But they do a lot of good things too. All of us should be thankful for the good things they have and continue to do. They do put the real criminals behind bars. They put the murderers, rapists, child molesters, thieves, wife beaters, drunk driver's and every other kind of person we can all agree are criminals, behind bars. Ultimatly making the US a safer place to live. Yes I know marijuana users are being sent to prison and fined in record numbers. But like I said before, once they picked up the bud, they took the responsibility of their actions into their hands. Whether they want to admit it or not.

I respect the police, and I believe what they do makes this country better. Whether or not you agree, that's your choice. But regardless, like Dirt King said "...but if everyone (not just people on this forum) would see things from everyones pov, and maybe get to live as the other people, the world would be alot better. But because all/most people are ignorant (whether it's cops to us, or the other way around) the world is pretty fucked up." Take the time to think about the bullshit the cops have to deal with day in, day out. It is shit niether you or I have to deal with. And thankfully for that matter. They are in harms way daily. And operating the in most extreme of situations. Constantly having to deal with the unpredictability of human beings. We don't have the displeasures nor the experiences of being a cop. If you did, it would probably humble your opinions.

[HypnoToad]

I hate authority like police and the government becuase they dont give a damn about the rest of the world and they routinely force me to subscribe to a set of laws rules and beliefs in which I DO NOT belief and it's either follow this or go to jail and have your life taken away.They routinely force their believes down everyone elses throat's.I feel everyone should be free to live their lives how they'd like without being bullied by authority.I mean what the hell does using recreational drugs in private have to do with anyone else?What does not wearing a setbealt have to do with anyone else?Why must we adhere to moronic laws like thses and others.Why does authority seek to censor everything.I should be the judge of what is acceptable for me to watch and what is not.I should be able to ingest anything I please.Without the law saying you cant do what you want with your body.Yet I could OD on prescription pills and drink myself stupid and its legal.I could jump off a bridge and its legal.I could do anythign I want to myself including having harmful elective surgeries but I cant smoke a little plant called Marijuana.I cant even decide who I want to marry freely.There are rules to that as well.The government decides too much for me.Hell if I say anything Pro-drugs in this country its grounds to have my house raided and searched under current law.If I so much as say anything against their view of things like drugs they could legally tap my phone line and I could do nothing about it. I also dont liek that fact that they decide that I go to war when they command me to...How can one be for government when we're not free in a country thats all about freedom?

[Mustard]

You know what? I totally agree with you most all of that. Under some circumstances we should have the complete and utter right to choose what to do and what not to do. However some things need to be regulated. I don't think many people will disagree with that. The laws that should be a part of this country should be based on the basic rights that the creator, or whatever you don't or do believe in has handed down to all humans. I myself should be able to dictate what is right for me. Unfortunatly that is not how it is. And unfortunatly the people of this nation in some circumstances have voted their freedoms away in the name of "security". Is it the Government's fault that this has happen, yeah, a great portion of it is. However most of America chooses to remain ignorant and do nothing about it.

I and you should have the right to smoke weed, or consume and other drug we god damn please to any excessive or none excessive amount. If we want to shoot ourself (yes, there are laws against suicide) then we should fucking be able to. In my book thats one less idiot in the world. If I want to risk my life by not wearing a seat belt while driving, not wearing a helmet while riding my bike then i should be able to do so. On the same note I nor you should be able to legally speed. With the rights that we have we must all understand others have rights too. And speeding while others are around is endangering other drivers. Like most things, there is a time and place to do it. It should be legal so as long as you are not endangering others or any of form of endangering/invading other peoples rights.

[HypnoToad]

I agree with everything you said.However it is congress that votes on bills that become laws and such.The general public doesnt have a choice about laws really.

I also totally agree with the speeding.No one should be speeding.I do street race, however I do keep it where it belongs such as closed off/blocked off private roads in the middle of nowhere so that no one can drive or wander into the race area and also on the race track b/c our area has a street racing league at our internatonial raceway even though it kind of sucks.But I dont race where any innocent bystanders/drivers would be involved in any way shape or form.

That comes from my respect of others and other's rights.

[Mustard]

Honestly, i dont see why YOU have a need to dislike the police. Like you said, congress passes most of the laws. Obviously that doesn't include the police. The police are not a force to hate in my opinion. The people who make the laws on the other hand... are. The cops are doing their job. Most of them didn't decide to be a cop because they want to bust pot heads. They got into it to protect people and bust REAL criminals or for the excitement of the chase. Busting pot heads is just a part of the job. Whether they think it is wrong or right, its part of wearing the uniform.

http://www.leoslyrics.com/listlyrics...VBMIsk7FhSA%3D - If you havn't heard of the group Corporate Avenger check out those lyrics. If you have, those are the lyrics to Fault The Police(I Don't) It speaks a large amount of truth. check it out.

EDIT: *bumps some Corporate Avenger* God damn, this shit sounds so great on some Koss Pro-4AA's... mmmmmm. Wish I could turn it up more though anymore and my stereo will distort.

[HypnoToad]

A major good reason I have is the fact that the cops around here like to pick on me and harrass me and stop for me for inane crap like I look suspicious just because I look opposite of the rest of the people living in this area which happens to be overly religious and quite prejudiced against anyone who looks different.I tend to be along the lines of vampiric/gothic style of dress and I have body piercings which are quite visible all the time.And the cops here stop me and question me regularly if Im walking anywhere other than my yard.Also antyime I've had police involvement which I've not done anything wrong in the first place I get threatened or fined and the other person has always gone free without fines or anything what so ever.And all of those cases in which I had been involved with police were times when I had been attacked by a person or a couple people and I had to defend myself.They seem to pick on me and I know its because I look different and Im one of the only very few around here like me.Majority of people dress normal and Ive only seen two other people in my whole life living here who dressed in the same style as me.And of the people Ive met they had the same problems.ITs really bad when I attend events like carnivals or festivals where the security is beefed up.Its not uncommon for me to get stopped and questioned by every cop and security guard working within a very short while of being there.Its really been pissing me off.

By now Ive pretty much got a reason to be pissed off with every form of authority for one reason or another.

[HypnoToad]

Another reason the police piss me off is that they are government lackies who dont think for themselves they carry out orders and do as theyre told without any fore thought or realization of anything different that what society and the government perpetuates as right and wrong and ideals of right and wrong.

I cant stand people who dont think for themselves and always just believe the government or authority...

Always question authority and always keep them in check.

[ox38776]

we should all chip in and buy part of iceland and make our own rules and regulations.

[HypnoToad]

Damn Straight Ox roflmao And we wont let the US bully us like ti does other countries. lmao

[sidious]

good luck if you do choose that as your job, i don't blame you.......i don't blame cops for their actions, only if they are setting you up/bent/ or downright hellbent on being an a**hole........just as i don't blame soldiers for going to war when the country that they serve asks it of them, they are doing there job, and i doubt that the world would be a better place without them completely, it would be sheer chaos....... murders everywhere and looting and countries would fall, we don't live in a Eutopia.

as long as you keep your head screwed on and still know the diffrence between what's right and wrong in YOUR eyes, i wish you the best of luck............Peace out..........Sid

[toker de PEACE]

three words.. WHAT THE FUCK?

[toker de PEACE]

WAIT, TWO MORE WORDS.. FUCK COPS! ok now im done.

[sidious]

well only if they're female for me...........words of wisdom from someone who has "peace" in their username, yet shows much hatred...........Peace out.........Sid

[toker de PEACE]

haha, i hear ya, but cops stand for everything that i hate and everythign that could ruin what i love... there has to be cops so if your gunan be a cop then be a cop, but dont fuck around with anti0narc shit, what people want to do with their bodies shoudl be their decision,a dn its hypocriticall of America to say otherwise, thats my beliefe, and all the cops iv ever dealt with have ben smimmy cunt rags who coudl make the world a better place only by throwing themselves into a vat of vat of live gonaria virus and decaying untill their hart turned into soil and their brain grew blue mold. but yeah, NO WAR! (thats the peace in the name wise one. love logve love love, but dont authoritise me, your no better then me, i dont want to here it, ok? good.)