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stoner_lukas · #**811** (**permalink**) 09-03-2009, 06:17 PM

Sounds to me like you shouldn't use DXM again.

Thoughts of suicide, in whatever fashion, are NOT a normal part of a psychedelic or dissociative trip. Those are signs of underlying psychosis. There's a difference between coming to understand and no longer being fearful of death through psychedelics, and wanting to give death a try because you're tripping.

IGotTheCottons · #**812** (**permalink**) 09-03-2009, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoner_lukas

Sounds to me like you shouldn't use DXM again.

Thoughts of suicide, in whatever fashion, are NOT a normal part of a psychedelic or dissociative trip. Those are signs of underlying psychosis. There's a difference between coming to understand and no longer being fearful of death through psychedelics, and wanting to give death a try because you're tripping.

2nded!

Barnkis · #**813** (**permalink**) 09-09-2009, 09:21 PM

Agreed, Lukas and cottons.

Coping with your part in the universe and accepting fate is a much different thing then wanting to give death a try. That being said, I'm quite interested to see what dying will be like... But I'm not gonna try it out.

MajorStoner · #**814** (**permalink**) 09-09-2009, 09:52 PM

I think it just sounds like an intense trip. On a shroom trip once my trip turned really dark for like 45 minutes and I contemplated suicide. But I was able to talk myself out of it, not in the way you did but something like that.

Kroovy · #**815** (**permalink**) 09-09-2009, 11:49 PM

I'm wondering if you can help me. For a while, I've been meaning to type out a good post about this. I started a thread or two of my own, explaining what I'm about to explain, but I wasn't able to get any real advice.

I've taken mushrooms four times now. Each time was a different experience and the mushrooms looked different (I'm assuming they were different strains) each time. However, at some point in ALL my trips, I experienced a debilitating "crash." My trips have taken place over the past few years, so I don't really remember how long the trips lasted (if it matters). The crashes went like this though: Usually (until the last trip) the crash would happen towards the end of the trip. Each time the crash was a little different, depending on the shrooms. It's a little hard to describe because the symptoms from the crash have been physical and mental

1st - The shrooms were lower-end. Mild visual distortions, elevated feelings of happiness and comfort. I didn't smoke weed throughout most of the trip except towards the end. I'm not sure how long after, but I started experiencing the first crash. When the first crash hit, I felt like I was going to puke almost. Like the queasy feeling you get when you get drunk, smoke weed, and then smoke a gratuitous amount of cigarettes. I sat on my bed for a long time, leaning over my trashcan, feeling like shit. After a while I ended up just going to sleep and felt fine when I woke up.

2nd - These shrooms produced a different effect. The feeling was a very intense high, almost like a crisp and clean drunk mixed with a head high. I smoked quite a few bowls and cigarettes but the crash hit me after I started smoking a Black&Mild cigar. The feelings of this crash were similar to the last: I felt overly high, to the point of being sick. However, because of the way these shrooms were, everything seemed to be spinning, making my sick feeling even worse. I went up stairs, laid down in bed, and ended up passing out. Felt fine when I woke up.

By this time, I'm thinking to myself that these "crashes" are caused by tobacco. To me it seemed like both times I was smoking a lot of cigarettes and both times I had horrible crashes, the second of which happened while in the process of smoking a cigar. So I decided that next time I wouldn't smoke nearly any tobacco.

3rd - These were by far the best shrooms that I'd gotten to date. The dealer warned against eating the full 8th, and said to start with just half an 8th. I'm a bigger guy, so I ate the full 8th, and I'm glad I did. I'll remember the experience the rest of my life. The things I experienced and felt are almost sublime. It felt like I experienced dimensional travel. Intense visual distortions, vivid colors, etc. I smoked only a few cigarettes. However, my third crash came in a very peculiar way: I was taking a rip out of my bong. I milked it, inhaled, held the hit, and as I blew it out, I felt the crash start. It started in my lungs and spread throughout my body. I put my head in my hands and sat there, feeling like shit. I made it to the bathroom (thought I was gonna puke) and realized after a while that I wasn't going to puke. I realized a lot of things about the crashes I was having while laying there. The crash hits me in waves. It starts out with a very intense first wave that puts me, sometimes literally, to my knees. If I lay down, the feeling of the crash is probably 25% of it's normal power. The waves continue, in no particular interval, over and over, slowly losing power. With each wave, visual distortions heightened. After about half an hour, I realized the waves weren't really that bad as long as I was laying down. So I moved to my kitchen to get some food/drink, but had to go back to the bathroom. The waves also hit me pretty hard when I stand up, so moving around in this condition isn't really viable. I ended up making it into my room. As the waves subsided and I felt normal again, I was pretty tired so I just decided to go to bed.

So now, based on the last crash, I'm thinking that maybe the "crashes" I'm having are from being too high rather than from tobacco. Maybe a mixture of the weed with the shroom high puts me over the edge. But the crashes have been the same, no matter what shrooms I've taken. And this last crash was the only one that happened (so it seems) directly from weed.

4th - So I picked up these shrooms from a friend and they looked more along the lines of "normal" mushies. I, along with two other friends (one that was with me every time I'd tripped and one that was trying for his first time) at an 8th each and waited. I'd been doing some reading into shrooms and how to make them more potent. I found a TEK online in which a guy said that he powderized his shrooms and added them to 2ozs of lemon juice. He said the result was four hours of complete muscle loss, laying on the ground, unable to move or think straight. I adopted this idea but decided to not powderize the shrooms and decided to mix about 1/3 cup lemon juice and 2/3 cup orange juice. I would eat the mushrooms and wash them down with the juice. I'm not sure if it was directly because of this reason, but I started my full out trip about 10-20 minutes after ingesting. My friends didn't feel the effects for a while but slowly and surely they came on. If I could call the shrooms from the 3rd trip Heavenly Shrooms, i'd call these shrooms Devil Shrooms. It seemed like everything was twisted. Things in my mind weren't working out right. My first-time-friend began to freak out, babbling on and on about the world ending, asking how long the trip was going to last, and just in general having a horribly bad trip. My other friend (the one who's been with me every time so far) said that he didn't experience any visuals but his thoughts just weren't working right, like his head was full of static rather than thoughts. My crash took place in the START this time. 10-20 minutes after ingesting, like I said, I was in full balls-tripping mode, but the crash accompanied it. I did what I learned last time and laid down on my friend's couch, which greatly helped with the uncomfortableness. I was afraid for a long time, which I believe was induced by the shrooms. There was nothing TO fear, but I was afraid nonetheless. After a while, the crash subsided and I was able to... Somewhat enjoy the trip. However, things were pretty crazy being that my one friend was freaking out and I was also in a weird environment (we were at my freaking-out-friend's house which is about 100 years old. It is just a plain creepy house with bad vibes) and I think the combination of the two made me enjoy the whole experience a lot less.

So, the reason for this thread is I'm still somewhat afraid of these crashes. I'm not sure anymore what causes them, but I'm hoping it's something to do with my highness level rather than my body rejecting the psilocybin or something along those lines. I haven't experienced any other symptoms apart from the crashes.

You can either respond on here or respond to me via PM. Both would be greatly appreciated!

~Kroovy

Its Art · #**816** (**permalink**) 11-18-2009, 02:54 AM

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Its Art · #**817** (**permalink**) 11-18-2009, 05:21 AM

Since nobody seems to want to use it I have a question.

My acid dealer turns out is flying out to florida tonight for a relatives funeral when I was supposed to get a vial from him tomorrow, friday night me and some friends were planning on going on a journey. So my question is, what is a good dose to take of dxm for my first time, I have great experience with lsd and mushrooms, some dmt experience. right now im looking at somewhere around 600mg of dxm to take.

light green · #**818** (**permalink**) 11-18-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Its Art

Since nobody seems to want to use it I have a question.

My acid dealer turns out is flying out to florida tonight for a relatives funeral when I was supposed to get a vial from him tomorrow, friday night me and some friends were planning on going on a journey. So my question is, what is a good dose to take of dxm for my first time, I have great experience with lsd and mushrooms, some dmt experience. right now im looking at somewhere around 600mg of dxm to take.

dosage advice is not allowed to be given on grasscity. erowid has great info on that though.

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#813 (permalink) 09-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Barnkis It's here if i draw it. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Trying to eat a carvel cake. Posts: 3,825	Re: The Psychedelic Hotline (Your questions answered here!) Agreed, Lukas and cottons. Coping with your part in the universe and accepting fate is a much different thing then wanting to give death a try. That being said, I'm quite interested to see what dying will be like... But I'm not gonna try it out. __________________ Ex girlfriend called me up Alone and desperate on the prison phone They want... to give her 7 years For being sad I love all of you hurt by the cold So hard and lonely too When you dont know yourself

#814 (permalink) 09-09-2009, 09:52 PM
MajorStoner Is on hiatus Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: In the Sky with Diamonds Posts: 3,045	Re: The Psychedelic Hotline (Your questions answered here!) I think it just sounds like an intense trip. On a shroom trip once my trip turned really dark for like 45 minutes and I contemplated suicide. But I was able to talk myself out of it, not in the way you did but something like that. __________________

#815 (permalink) 09-09-2009, 11:49 PM
Kroovy Xristos Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Flint, MI Posts: 374	Re: The Psychedelic Hotline (Your questions answered here!) I'm wondering if you can help me. For a while, I've been meaning to type out a good post about this. I started a thread or two of my own, explaining what I'm about to explain, but I wasn't able to get any real advice. I've taken mushrooms four times now. Each time was a different experience and the mushrooms looked different (I'm assuming they were different strains) each time. However, at some point in ALL my trips, I experienced a debilitating "crash." My trips have taken place over the past few years, so I don't really remember how long the trips lasted (if it matters). The crashes went like this though: Usually (until the last trip) the crash would happen towards the end of the trip. Each time the crash was a little different, depending on the shrooms. It's a little hard to describe because the symptoms from the crash have been physical and mental 1st - The shrooms were lower-end. Mild visual distortions, elevated feelings of happiness and comfort. I didn't smoke weed throughout most of the trip except towards the end. I'm not sure how long after, but I started experiencing the first crash. When the first crash hit, I felt like I was going to puke almost. Like the queasy feeling you get when you get drunk, smoke weed, and then smoke a gratuitous amount of cigarettes. I sat on my bed for a long time, leaning over my trashcan, feeling like shit. After a while I ended up just going to sleep and felt fine when I woke up. 2nd - These shrooms produced a different effect. The feeling was a very intense high, almost like a crisp and clean drunk mixed with a head high. I smoked quite a few bowls and cigarettes but the crash hit me after I started smoking a Black&Mild cigar. The feelings of this crash were similar to the last: I felt overly high, to the point of being sick. However, because of the way these shrooms were, everything seemed to be spinning, making my sick feeling even worse. I went up stairs, laid down in bed, and ended up passing out. Felt fine when I woke up. By this time, I'm thinking to myself that these "crashes" are caused by tobacco. To me it seemed like both times I was smoking a lot of cigarettes and both times I had horrible crashes, the second of which happened while in the process of smoking a cigar. So I decided that next time I wouldn't smoke nearly any tobacco. 3rd - These were by far the best shrooms that I'd gotten to date. The dealer warned against eating the full 8th, and said to start with just half an 8th. I'm a bigger guy, so I ate the full 8th, and I'm glad I did. I'll remember the experience the rest of my life. The things I experienced and felt are almost sublime. It felt like I experienced dimensional travel. Intense visual distortions, vivid colors, etc. I smoked only a few cigarettes. However, my third crash came in a very peculiar way: I was taking a rip out of my bong. I milked it, inhaled, held the hit, and as I blew it out, I felt the crash start. It started in my lungs and spread throughout my body. I put my head in my hands and sat there, feeling like shit. I made it to the bathroom (thought I was gonna puke) and realized after a while that I wasn't going to puke. I realized a lot of things about the crashes I was having while laying there. The crash hits me in waves. It starts out with a very intense first wave that puts me, sometimes literally, to my knees. If I lay down, the feeling of the crash is probably 25% of it's normal power. The waves continue, in no particular interval, over and over, slowly losing power. With each wave, visual distortions heightened. After about half an hour, I realized the waves weren't really that bad as long as I was laying down. So I moved to my kitchen to get some food/drink, but had to go back to the bathroom. The waves also hit me pretty hard when I stand up, so moving around in this condition isn't really viable. I ended up making it into my room. As the waves subsided and I felt normal again, I was pretty tired so I just decided to go to bed. So now, based on the last crash, I'm thinking that maybe the "crashes" I'm having are from being too high rather than from tobacco. Maybe a mixture of the weed with the shroom high puts me over the edge. But the crashes have been the same, no matter what shrooms I've taken. And this last crash was the only one that happened (so it seems) directly from weed. 4th - So I picked up these shrooms from a friend and they looked more along the lines of "normal" mushies. I, along with two other friends (one that was with me every time I'd tripped and one that was trying for his first time) at an 8th each and waited. I'd been doing some reading into shrooms and how to make them more potent. I found a TEK online in which a guy said that he powderized his shrooms and added them to 2ozs of lemon juice. He said the result was four hours of complete muscle loss, laying on the ground, unable to move or think straight. I adopted this idea but decided to not powderize the shrooms and decided to mix about 1/3 cup lemon juice and 2/3 cup orange juice. I would eat the mushrooms and wash them down with the juice. I'm not sure if it was directly because of this reason, but I started my full out trip about 10-20 minutes after ingesting. My friends didn't feel the effects for a while but slowly and surely they came on. If I could call the shrooms from the 3rd trip Heavenly Shrooms, i'd call these shrooms Devil Shrooms. It seemed like everything was twisted. Things in my mind weren't working out right. My first-time-friend began to freak out, babbling on and on about the world ending, asking how long the trip was going to last, and just in general having a horribly bad trip. My other friend (the one who's been with me every time so far) said that he didn't experience any visuals but his thoughts just weren't working right, like his head was full of static rather than thoughts. My crash took place in the START this time. 10-20 minutes after ingesting, like I said, I was in full balls-tripping mode, but the crash accompanied it. I did what I learned last time and laid down on my friend's couch, which greatly helped with the uncomfortableness. I was afraid for a long time, which I believe was induced by the shrooms. There was nothing TO fear, but I was afraid nonetheless. After a while, the crash subsided and I was able to... Somewhat enjoy the trip. However, things were pretty crazy being that my one friend was freaking out and I was also in a weird environment (we were at my freaking-out-friend's house which is about 100 years old. It is just a plain creepy house with bad vibes) and I think the combination of the two made me enjoy the whole experience a lot less. So, the reason for this thread is I'm still somewhat afraid of these crashes. I'm not sure anymore what causes them, but I'm hoping it's something to do with my highness level rather than my body rejecting the psilocybin or something along those lines. I haven't experienced any other symptoms apart from the crashes. You can either respond on here or respond to me via PM. Both would be greatly appreciated! ~Kroovy __________________

#816 (permalink) 11-18-2009, 02:54 AM
Its Art psychs Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: chicago suburbs Posts: 112	Re: The Psychedelic Hotline (Your questions answered here!) BUMPPPPPPP... bringing this thread back, I feel that this is an extremely useful tool for some GC users.

#817 (permalink) 11-18-2009, 05:21 AM
Its Art psychs Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: chicago suburbs Posts: 112	Re: The Psychedelic Hotline (Your questions answered here!) Since nobody seems to want to use it I have a question. My acid dealer turns out is flying out to florida tonight for a relatives funeral when I was supposed to get a vial from him tomorrow, friday night me and some friends were planning on going on a journey. So my question is, what is a good dose to take of dxm for my first time, I have great experience with lsd and mushrooms, some dmt experience. right now im looking at somewhere around 600mg of dxm to take.

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