DXM Extraction Take 2 lol

[DaleGribble]

They have been less intense for me 4 out of 4 times I used Delsym. As well as my for my friends, as well as for those in many experiences Ive read on the internet. Its the same strength over a longer period of time, which means half way through that time, its weaker.


Thats exactly what I'm saying neoshredder. Doesn't that seem logical to you? Have you used Delsym neoshredder?

[GlopiPop]

Originally Posted by DaleGribble

I guess you can go ahead and keep paying more for delsym but I'm gonna stick with cheaper more powerful products to begin with. They work for me far better.

OK first off, I can keep paying more for Delsym? I'm not stupid to trip on DXM on an occassional basis. The extraction I did was a one time thing, you'd know that if you actually read what I wrote..

And also, if you had read anything I ever posted about DXM Polistirex, you'd remember that the only good thing it's for is extraction..

If you aren't doing an extraction, stick to the gelcaps or Robitussin syrup. I've said that a few times already..


And once again, it would seem weaker because of the extended release coating, which is why (if you're not extracting) you should stick to the Robotussin gelcaps or syrup..

[neoshredder]

Originally Posted by DaleGribble

They have been less intense for me 4 out of 4 times I used Delsym. As well as my for my friends, as well as for those in many experiences Ive read on the internet. Its the same strength over a longer period of time, which means half way through that time, its weaker.


Thats exactly what I'm saying neoshredder. Doesn't that seem logical to you? Have you used Delsym neoshredder?

Yeah. Didn't like it. Nausea ruined it. I don't remember it being that powerful. But everything I've heard is that Poli isn't as intense but the high is longer.

[DaleGribble]

I obvioulsy read what you wrote I just don't agree. Once the coating is removed, IMO, it could be as much as 1/2 the strength of the same volume of DXM Hbr syrup extracted. So even for extraction its only worth it because you dont have to buy all the chemicals, but you do pay 2x for the original product.

[Beasters]

stop fighting like girls and look at the new pictures on page 1

[GlopiPop]

Originally Posted by DaleGribble

I obvioulsy read what you wrote I just don't agree. Once the coating is removed, IMO, it could be as much as 1/2 the strength of the same volume of DXM Hbr syrup extracted.

And you're wrong. And I don't know where on earth you got this 1/2 ratio.

I've provided plenty of evidence to back up my point. I even quoted a statement concerning the plasma concentration.

You, however, can rely on your opinion..

[PerezPurpp]

so when it comes to extraction i have only heard of delsym which contains Polistirex

but some people say HBr is better..which is found in things like robotussin...

but you cant extract robotussin HBr the same way as you can extract delsym polistirex

?yes no maybe so?

[GlopiPop]

No, not the same way at all. It's a much more involved process.

If you're gonna extract, use Delsym.

If not, get Robitussin Cough gelcaps or syrup.

[neoshredder]

Originally Posted by PerezPurpp

so when it comes to extraction i have only heard of delsym which contains Polistirex

but some people say HBr is better..which is found in things like robotussin...

but you cant extract robotussin HBr the same way as you can extract delsym polistirex

?yes no maybe so?

Much harder to extract HBr then Polistirix. That is what makes Delsym the best option to extract. Not many brands do Polistirix.

[DaleGribble]

I think a DXM Hbr extraction is much harder but probably yeilds much more pure DXM per bottle than Delsym.

[PerezPurpp]

Originally Posted by Beasters

Well today has been an exciting day... lol.... Well I went to my wife's work today to help her out and get things caught up in the back, and I got 4 bottles of DXM (see below for pictures)




I'm trying to trip again I've already tried to trip once on delsym but I only had 2 bottles instead of 4 so I'm hoping for at least a little visual's.. I'll continue to post more pictures as the delsym sit's and I get ready to take it...

Here is a picture of just the delsym in the bottle





And here is the mixture of water and delsym just waiting now for it to sit and come to the bottom....




this is the bottom of the 2liter after the extraction



this is the dxm after i drained the water



this is the powder with the poli still on it



a closer look at the dxm powder YUMMM



And the final result is this orangy-lemon tasting drink...

isnt four bottles a bit much?

how many oz do you take usually in liquid form?

i usually take 4oz so i plan on extracting 10oz and splitting it with a friend

5oz worth each... im having trouble figuring out how intense/equivalent it is to 5 oz of liquid form .

thats pretty tight though im looking forward to it

[GlopiPop]

Originally Posted by DaleGribble

Your "evidence" doesn't state you are correct. 60mg of DXM Poli and 2 times 30mg of DXM Hbr are equivalent in plasma after 9 hours. But that means that the poli is simply lasting longer. All the experiences Ive ever read disagree with you.

No. It means the plasma concentrations are equal.

All the experiences you've read disagree with me? Well, give me piece of evidence that says 30mg HBr is twice as strong as 30mg Polistirex.

And what's really funny is that all the experiences I've read contrast yours... Shall I link to those too?

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/s...d.php?t=204790

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4935.html (Excuse all but the last post, which is retarded)

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79300

You could also check out the erowid vault. That has some stuff, too.


Although, I'd rather rely on credible sources (which I already posted) for my information.

Originally Posted by DaleGribble

I think a DXM Hbr extraction is much harder but probably yeilds much more pure DXM per bottle than Delsym.

Yeah.. Once again, you think, but don't know.

DXM HBr extraction can yield more or less DXM than the Polistirex extraction, depending on how efficient you do it and how little mistakes you make.

However it actually is more likely to yield less because if how easy HBr degrades when exposed to the air. Plus it's very easy to make mistakes or miscalculate things, whereas the Delsym method is easy.

With Delsym you're guaranteed almost 100% yeild because of how easily the Polistirex separates from the solution.

[DaleGribble]

Experiences regarding strength of a Delsym trip in relation to Hbr trips (ALL I have seen say Delsym is less intense), not the ratio of strength of DXM Poli to Hbr.

Can you not concede that 1 gram of 100% coke is equivalent to 2 grams of 50% coke? ANd that the same analogy can be applied to DXM Poli, regardless of what the strength ratio is (even though I believe the Poli weight of pure DXM to be less)? Thats all I wanted to clarify.

On another topic:

What do yall think is the best dosage range for tripping? OP will have a lot to work with

[Beasters]

thanks man!! i really dont know how much it is compared to the liquid form because i have only ever done it this way the first tim i used only two 3 oz bottles and it didnt work so this time i doubled it!

[neoshredder]

Originally Posted by DaleGribble

Experiences regarding strength of a Delsym trip in relation to Hbr trips (ALL I have seen say Delsym is less intense), not the ratio of strength of DXM Poli to Hbr.

Can you not concede that 1 gram of 100% coke is equivalent to 2 grams of 50% coke? ANd that the same analogy can be applied to DXM Poli, regardless of what the strength ratio is (even though I believe the Poli weight of pure DXM to be less)? Thats all I wanted to clarify.

On another topic:

What do yall think is the best dosage range for tripping? OP will have a lot to work with

This is 2160 mg's of DXM Polistirix. Something is wrong if 2 bottles of Delsym didn't do anything. I agree that everything I've heard also says DXM HBr is stronger and that is why it is thought of higher then DXM Polistirix among most DXM trippers. 700-800 mg's of DXM HBr should be enough to trip. So I'm guessing 1400-1600 mg's of DXM Polistirix is enough to trip as well and for a long time.