Adderall XR & Heroin

[Jamtastic]

Alright, lets get a few things first:

Yes I'm a heroin addict, save the self righetous just smoke weed you suck at life nonsense


Anyway, I'm a pretty experience opiate user, I use heroin IV currently. At the moment I have none left, but I have $40 for the time being, and plan on going out shortly and getting a $40 bag.

I have 5 20mg Adderall XR capsules.


Now if I don't do the heroin I will get sick, so getting the dope is a must.

I have alot of school work/other shit to do. So obviously taking the adderall will help with that.


I've mixed cocaine and heroin at the same time, and speedballed, but I'm wondering about the adderall.

Do you think that if I mix the adderall and the dope one will overcome the other? I'm afraid if I take the adderall I'm going to end up in withdrawals, then I'm going to have to shoot all the dope to counteract the adderall, and feel better - minus the ampheatmine affects.

Or I could do the dope, then take the adderall, hoping it won't put me in withdrawals. Only problem then is I won't have anymore money/dope untill tommorow, so I can't even buy a blunt to calm myself down from the speed.

Just curious if anyone has mixed adderall and opiates, and what the effects seem to be, what counteracts what, and does the adderall induce withdrawal.?


Any help would be greatly appreaciated, thanks

[s w i s h e r]

any combination of upper and downer is considered a speedball. any speedball is potentially very dangerous. you're experienced man, I think you can handle that. The question is do you give a fuck?

You're not the only one, by the way

[Icky]

I've mixed adderal XR and Dexedrine (separately) with opiates on a few occasions. Adderal XR (25mg) combined with 10 mg oxycodone was very pleasant. It resulted in euphoria and a wonderful sense of well-being and relaxation, but i was still focused and driven to complete my assignments and study for tests. I, however, wasn't dependant on opiates at the time, so the angle you're coming from is a bit different.
I'd say that you'll be alright, as long as you don't over-do it on your dose of smack. Just get your minimal fix, take the adderal, and leave some junk for after you have finished your work/whatever it is that needs to be done. The adderal will make you more lucid while on heroin, but deffinitely try to control your initial dose of H, so as not to render yourself inoperable while the adderal works its magic.

Good luck with it. I know "heroin" and "self-control" aren't exactly synonymous with eachother...

[Jamtastic]

Originally Posted by s w i s h e r

any combination of upper and downer is considered a speedball. any speedball is potentially very dangerous. you're experienced man, I think you can handle that. The question is do you give a fuck?

You're not the only one, by the way

I know I can handle it, I'm just wondering if you think they will cancel each other out, which if its the adderall I really don't care, but I'm afraid of the opiate being canceled and going into withdrawal.

But I would assume that the receptors have nothing to do with each other, except one is CNS depressent, and the other is CNS stimulant.

I would assume even if I don't feel the dope, I shouldn't be in withdrawal because the dope is still in my brain?

[s w i s h e r]

no you wont go into withdrawal dude

[wein-dog12]

nah jam you should be good i highly doubt you will go into withdrawl have fun with that shit

[Jamtastic]

Originally Posted by s w i s h e r

no you wont go into withdrawal dude

Originally Posted by wein-dog12

nah jam you should be good i highly doubt you will go into withdrawl have fun with that shit

Thanks guys, that was what I was looking forward.

Heres an update incase anyone cares/has this question in the future.


Around 12, I got a $40 of dope, which was actually huge Looked to me like it was closer to 60+. I think he made a mistake and put this big rock in by accident, because I took out the rock and it looked like a 40, and I did just the rock in a shot and was wrecked.

I pretty much enjoyed the rest of the day jammed, and I was really jammed for some reason, it's been a good day.

Around 7PM I took 20mg of adderall. They are the XR Capsules with the little orange balls. I took the capsule apart and tried to chew as many of the balls as I could before swallowing.

A little while later I began to feel the adderall start to kick in and I decided to do my last, small, shot of the dope. Which I must admit felt amazing after I did it.

I worked on my schoolwork for a few hours before going out with my girlfriend. Her and her friend had blazed all the weed, and I spent the whole night trying to find some. I had told her I had taken adderall and I wanted to smoke to calm down, but nope, she smoked it without me . Regardless, I hung out with her, just mackin' her all night, no problems at all

After she left, I called my buddy and I purchased a $20 of dope, since I couldn't find any weed. Came home, and shot it. Feels amazing.

I was very afraid that for some reason even though I had already done the dope I might go into withdrawals, and was afraid earlier of going into withdrawal and not having enough dope to counteract the adderall, but nope, no problems there. I feel amazing right now So happy.

Gotta do school work for the next few hours, maybe try to sleep, doubt it. Have to leave for school at 7 a.m. for class at 8. But tommorow morning I'll be getting $100 to buy some dope, and hopefully a bunch of weed, and I still have a few addies left. Knowing that mixing the two works great is awesome

Thanks for the help everyone.

[s w i s h e r]

Are you getting black tar?

Be careful too man, the last thing you need is a second addiction. Heroin addiction does your body like shit as it is...dont need an amphetamine addiction to go with it.

[RobertHope]

heres an idea how about u quit heroin? ever think of that? im not judgein u and im not tryin to tell u how to live but have u thought about quiting? what if for some reason u chould not get any money for 2 weeks what whould u do be sick? sounds like a bad deal but hey do what u want.

[s w i s h e r]

^^you have obviously never suffered from addiction, am i right?

[thosevacanteyes]

Originally Posted by RobertHope

heres an idea how about u quit heroin? ever think of that? im not judgein u and im not tryin to tell u how to live but have u thought about quiting? what if for some reason u chould not get any money for 2 weeks what whould u do be sick? sounds like a bad deal but hey do what u want.

The brain falls in love with heroin, the body of course hates it, but this is what makes the drug so powerful. I personally have never dabbled in H, I don't want to enjoy it to much.

I have smoked Opium though, very relaxing.

-C

[RobertHope]

im sure it feels great but who wants to spend there life chasein some brown powder. im sure hes addicited to it but there is no reason not to TRY to quit. but hey man u live life ur way im not tryin to tell u what do it ur life its not mine.

[wein-dog12]

Originally Posted by RobertHope

heres an idea how about u quit heroin? ever think of that? im not judgein u and im not tryin to tell u how to live but have u thought about quiting? what if for some reason u chould not get any money for 2 weeks what whould u do be sick? sounds like a bad deal but hey do what u want.

man just shut up im sure jam has thought about quiting and well maybe hes not ready too plus man you sound like every other moron that was never addicted to hard drugs

[s w i s h e r]

when you quit heroin there is a HUGE void in your life, man...like it's hella difficult adjusting back to 'normal' life....it's bigger than a physical addiction...leaves you with a "now what do I do?" mindstate...

[Barnkis]

Originally Posted by RobertHope

heres an idea how about u quit heroin? ever think of that? im not judgein u and im not tryin to tell u how to live but have u thought about quiting? what if for some reason u chould not get any money for 2 weeks what whould u do be sick? sounds like a bad deal but hey do what u want.

You have no idea. Read some books or something. Scar Tissue by Anthony Kiedis is a good one, it's about the RHCP lyricist and his many addictions. It'll help you understand that being an addict isnt doing a drug, its a lifestyle. when you quit the drug, you lost your lifestyle and there is a huge void of "What the fuck do i do with all this money and time"? oh ill buy some H since that's what i do, it's my thing. Oh, look im back on the wagon.

/rant