Adderall XR & Heroin

[Jamtastic]

Originally Posted by s w i s h e r

Are you getting black tar?

Be careful too man, the last thing you need is a second addiction. Heroin addiction does your body like shit as it is...dont need an amphetamine addiction to go with it.

Thankfully no, I've never seen black tar, or had it before. I currently get a very light tan powder, or more recently it's back to solid rock. It's very strong, unfortunately A $20 of this stuff can send you to the moon, its rediculus, however, since it's so strong it makes for easy addiction/increase in tolerance.

I def don't need an ampheatamine addiction, but back in high school at the begining of the year I bought a year worth of adderall from my connect and took them almost every day, just 20 or 30mg, and I've never had a problem. I only have a few of them and I don't abuse them and use high doses, just a normal dose, and so far I've found that I have never had any withdrawal symptoms from stopping cold turkey, even after taking 1 or 2 pills a day for almost a year straight.

Originally Posted by RobertHope

heres an idea how about u quit heroin? ever think of that? im not judgein u and im not tryin to tell u how to live but have u thought about quiting? what if for some reason u chould not get any money for 2 weeks what whould u do be sick? sounds like a bad deal but hey do what u want.

Originally Posted by RobertHope

im sure it feels great but who wants to spend there life chasein some brown powder. im sure hes addicited to it but there is no reason not to TRY to quit. but hey man u live life ur way im not tryin to tell u what do it ur life its not mine.

There always has to be someone in these type threads that has to bring a negative vibe, even if they hide behind "I'm not telling you what to do but..."

This thread wasn't about what I plan on doing with heroin and my life, I wanted advice on one situation regarding the mixing of two substances, because I was afraid I would enter withdrawal.

Yes, I have thought about quitting, and am trying to, believe me I don't want to spend my life chasing any drug, brown powder, or black tar, or whatever. It is costing me a ton of money, and it sucks. Yes, most of the time I do get jammed from the heroin I get, and I enjoy the feeling, but more often than not I have to go out in the morning and get some just to make it through the day, I need it just to feel normal. If I don't have any for a while I'm unable to go to school, I can't go out with my girlfriend, wouldn't be able to work, I can't do anything. If you've never gone through withdrawals from hard drugs then there is no way you can understand, the withdrawals are HORRIBLE. They are so painful both physically and mentally, and it makes living life impossible.

I told my parents what was going on with my heroin addiction, and I have been weeing myself off of the dope with the assistance of my parents. Imagine that, I'm 19 and I had to go to my parents and explain to them that I'm a drug addict. Theres no need to explain everything, but my parents have been super supportive. They give me $100 every few couple days and I'll buy some dope, and they know that. I used to shoot almost $300 a day, and I've cut it down to almost $30 a day. The problem is the home stretch since if I go to $0 immediately I will have horrible withdrawals, but I'm working on it. I don't like how you came in with an attitude telling me I should quit or think about it. You have no idea what is going on in my life, or anything about me, or how badly I want to not be addicted to heroin. Think before you speak bro, theres no need to be an asshole to me simply because I do heroin and you dont.

Also, I'm not in the position to run out of money since my parents give me the money for the dope, however, if I were to run out of money I would suffer through hell. Cold sweats, vomiting, direarha, chills, insomnia, mental problems, heart problems, high blood pressure. It is so painful, and I can't afford to take the time out of my life to suffer through the withdrawals. If I could I would've stopped by now, but I can't. I'm not going to lie I enjoy doing heroin, but I wish more than anything that it was simply like weed, and I could do it when I want and that would be the end of it, but it isn't, and I'm trying so hard to get off it, you don't know what you are talking about, and I don't think you should post if you don't have a clue.

Originally Posted by Barnkis

You have no idea. Read some books or something. Scar Tissue by Anthony Kiedis is a good one, it's about the RHCP lyricist and his many addictions. It'll help you understand that being an addict isnt doing a drug, its a lifestyle. when you quit the drug, you lost your lifestyle and there is a huge void of "What the fuck do i do with all this money and time"? oh ill buy some H since that's what i do, it's my thing. Oh, look im back on the wagon.

/rant

Thank You

[s w i s h e r]

yeah but once you get used to the speedball effect of the adderall and heroin...just shooting the dope won't "BE ENOUGH" anymore, you know? but thats just me...i dont like uppers...i love my dope

edit: your parents pay for your dope? do they know where the money is going?? if you wanna kick, go to a doctor, tell them straight up what is going on, and get on suboxone. as soon as possible, bro. try to avoid methadone...withdrawal for methadone is MONTHS whereas heroin is weeks...fuck methadone. Get some suboxone, it will do wonders for you if you really want to kick.

[Jamtastic]

Originally Posted by s w i s h e r

yeah but once you get used to the speedball effect of the adderall and heroin...just shooting the dope won't "BE ENOUGH" anymore, you know? but thats just me...i dont like uppers...i love my dope

edit: your parents pay for your dope? do they know where the money is going?? if you wanna kick, go to a doctor, tell them straight up what is going on, and get on suboxone. as soon as possible, bro. try to avoid methadone...withdrawal for methadone is MONTHS whereas heroin is weeks...fuck methadone. Get some suboxone, it will do wonders for you if you really want to kick.

I don't get what you mean? I'm not really trying to get a speedball effect, although it feels amazing. I was trying to take the adderall to catch up on a ton of school work, and regardless of if I felt the dope or not I didn't care, just wanted to make sure I wasn't sick. Maybe I misread?

Regardless I feel ya, I used to do uppers all the time, and now its just like ugh. I've had these adderall pills left over for so long, couldn't bring myself to ever take them.

Yes, my parents pay for my dope, and yes they do know where the money is going. I think I'm doing a good job of weening down, and think this is the best bet. I used to do suboxone all the time before I ever did dope, and I personally don't think it is going to help. I think weeing down with the heroin instead of the subs is working pretty well. I also don't like the doctors telling me how to go about my kicking the habit, this was my parents and I control it, and its all heroin, none of that nasty naloxone and buphenorphine. Also, if I don't cut down a little bit after a while my parents cut the money a little bit. I was getting $120 every couple days, and they cut it down to $100, and there wasn't any problems, no sickness. I'm currently at $100 a day, but soon it's going to be $90, not much of a drop, but instead of like $33 a day for 3 days or whatever, its $30 a day. Idk, personally I think it's doing the trick. I would recommend to anyone if they think they have the will power to try to ween off the drug they are on, instead of switching to another opiate.

[MajorStoner]

I give you props for all the effort you've put in trying to quit, it really is a bitch, and that you've been doing it fairly quickly I think you'll eventually be able to succeed.

As far as the Adderall goes I'd imagine you'd be safe doing a little bit in order to get some work done, but I certainly wouldn't make a habit out of it.

[Jamtastic]

Originally Posted by MajorStoner

I give you props for all the effort you've put in trying to quit, it really is a bitch, and that you've been doing it fairly quickly I think you'll eventually be able to succeed.

As far as the Adderall goes I'd imagine you'd be safe doing a little bit in order to get some work done, but I certainly wouldn't make a habit out of it.

Yea, I already did it last night. I'm still feeling the affects of the adderal, almost 24 hours later. Again, I must say it worked and felt great. Although right now I'm kinda feeling shitty. Anyone who's fallen asleep after taking adderall, knows what I'm talking about, that shitty feeling the next day, and my jaw fucking kills because I clentch it shut.

[GouGe AwAy 04]

i mixed adderall with dope the second time i ever shot up..i took the adderall in the morning i think it was 6 10mg caps and then shot the dope in the evening. the dope felt amazing like its suppose to but i remember breaking out in the worst sweats. when i laid down to go to sleep the adderall wouldnt let my mind relax and i ended up catching like an hour or 2 of sleep tops. felt like hell the next day.

[DiggityDank420]

not trying to judge or nothing cuz i believe in free will and what not and ive been there with opiates and shit but whenever you do decide to kick it just remember theres never really gonna be a better time to quit then now because with me and my friends it only slowly gets worse...good luck bro

[wein-dog12]

Originally Posted by Barnkis

You have no idea. Read some books or something. Scar Tissue by Anthony Kiedis is a good one, it's about the RHCP lyricist and his many addictions. It'll help you understand that being an addict isnt doing a drug, its a lifestyle. when you quit the drug, you lost your lifestyle and there is a huge void of "What the fuck do i do with all this money and time"? oh ill buy some H since that's what i do, it's my thing. Oh, look im back on the wagon.

/rant

too fucking true my friend to fucking true +rep

[eyeg0tgr33ns]

Damn dude, sounds like some heavy shit.

Good luck trying to get off h man.

[Beasters]

thats some serious shit homie, but like i was saying about the fentanyl i was on i know how serious it was and how close it was to H and i didnt want anything to do with them cause i wasnt trying to be addicted to H but i have been addicted to adderall my ex/gf from a long time ago was prescribed 120 of them a month little blue 10's and id pop 7 or 8 of them at a time or snort a bunch of blue power and get fucked up, but my life has changed dramaticly since i met my wife and had my daughter

[KracKerjacK]

it doesnt matter what drug your on if your a heroin addict in withdrawl, its not like you'll need enough heroin to overcome the adderall in order to get off bein sick

you might not get that high from the dope cuz ur on adderall, but you'll definitely get off bein sick as long as your brain gets heroin

and i feel for you bro, i was a heroin addict for a long time, but i switched over to oxycontin since i always know the quality/quantity of the drug i'm doing so theres no risk of getting ripped off with bu nk dope or getting crazy good dope and ODing

opiates are fucking impossible to get off of, i went to detox and got through the withdrawls, and then i still went right back to it a few days later cuz of how much of a slave my mind is to it

sucks dick, if i don't quit ASAP i'm gonna violate probation and go to jail, and even with that hanging over my head i'm stil using and i just can't stop, every night i say tomorrow i'll quit and just toughout the withdrawls, but every morning i wakeup and i fiend so hard that i have anxiety attacks until i get some oxy

its a hellish life, and i feel like i'll never be normal again, and on top of that i got arrested yesterday so i feel like i might as well just die since thats where i'm heading anyway

[s w i s h e r]

you're not alone KracKerjacK. it's been a long hard battle, with lots of falling down and slipping up. we should get together for a like, AIM support group thang, where when we're feelin kinda down or we really want to get high...then we can turn to each other, we all obviously are/were addicts.

I got much love for anyone in the same struggle as me. A lot of love. Stay safe everybody.

[GouGe AwAy 04]

NA swisher even better..plus its people you can actually see and hang out with. speaking for myself its been working.

[s w i s h e r]

Originally Posted by Jamtastic

I don't get what you mean? I'm not really trying to get a speedball effect, although it feels amazing. I was trying to take the adderall to catch up on a ton of school work, and regardless of if I felt the dope or not I didn't care, just wanted to make sure I wasn't sick. Maybe I misread?

Regardless I feel ya, I used to do uppers all the time, and now its just like ugh. I've had these adderall pills left over for so long, couldn't bring myself to ever take them.

Yes, my parents pay for my dope, and yes they do know where the money is going. I think I'm doing a good job of weening down, and think this is the best bet. I used to do suboxone all the time before I ever did dope, and I personally don't think it is going to help. I think weeing down with the heroin instead of the subs is working pretty well. I also don't like the doctors telling me how to go about my kicking the habit, this was my parents and I control it, and its all heroin, none of that nasty naloxone and buphenorphine. Also, if I don't cut down a little bit after a while my parents cut the money a little bit. I was getting $120 every couple days, and they cut it down to $100, and there wasn't any problems, no sickness. I'm currently at $100 a day, but soon it's going to be $90, not much of a drop, but instead of like $33 a day for 3 days or whatever, its $30 a day. Idk, personally I think it's doing the trick. I would recommend to anyone if they think they have the will power to try to ween off the drug they are on, instead of switching to another opiate.

man I hate to call you out on this, bro but...

you can't ween if you wanna kick. if you want to kick, you gotta kick. weening won't do shit. every junkie says they'll ween off...but eventually, they [usually] never stop.

good luck, homie. if you need anythin I got you.

[s w i s h e r]

Im also sayin like there seems to be a lot more blades than there used to be thats going through bullshit regarding drugs