Adderall Information Thread (May Help Someone)

[theVirtuoso]

Quick Backround:
This is just a slightly-altered version of a post I made about two weeks ago. I think a lot of people didn't see it that it could have possibly helped. Now with school starting again, Adderall is once again one of the most vastly-used substances for a number of things. I wanted to share just a bit of information that I believe may possibly be of some help.

Also, if you have any questions at all regarding Adderall, please feel free to ask here and I will answer to the best of my knowledge. I'm not claiming to be any sort of "Guru" or anything, but I have my share of experience/knowledge and just want to help.

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IR = Instant Release = You feel a significantly more intense and faster onset, along with nice and noticeable stimulation, but the duration is about 1/2 that of extended release. The come-up is much more intense, and the sensation of grandeur in every physical and mental aspect is significantly more pronounced when taken this way. This is my preferred administration; orally... as I do not recommend insufflation (snorting) because of the damage it can have on your nose (no one likes bloody noses for starters).

XR = Extended Release = Not as intense; usually lacks much of any intense sensations unless the dosage is noticeably high, but provides an extended (go figure), smoother ride. Here and there you may occasionally encounter a "bump in the road" and feel some of that more intense sensation that instant provides (XR releases the chemical in smaller doses over a lengthier period of time, which is why it is less intense), but overall extended just stimulates you enough for a relaxed, subtle euphoria while still providing a noticeably positive change in your cognitive functioning.

In an attempt to sum up the sensation Adderall bestows upon me...

All negative thoughts are tossed aside. Any momentum they would generally attain is immediately ceased. Whatever pessimistic feelings left inside your conscious are disregarded, insignificant, and just entirely overwhelmed with positive vibes flowing through your veins; manifested by the confidence, motivation, and newly-formed optimistic view on life.

Every activity you undergo you will find yourself exceeding every expectation. You achieve the ability to surpass your own limits, physical and psychological boundaries alike. Your mind operates in overdrive, but it feels effortless as the intellectual and intricately-worded sentences roll off your tongue without effort. Physically, you disregard fatigue as your subconscious overtakes every muscle you exert, replacing all physical obstacles with pure energy.

If you have difficulty expressing/portraying yourself (statements, emotions, creativity, etc) in written or verbal form, Adderall will alleviate that inability to express and give you the competence to overcome and debase these restrictions you have grown so accustomed to. This allows you to expand your conscious to a higher level and achieve a much more profound understanding of your inner self and through this enlightenment you've attained you conquer every bit of difficulty you once possessed to express yourself. This is the most enjoyable aspect of the "high" for me, personally, because naturally I find myself unable to explain my thoughts and emotions. I cannot express them well enough to genuinely get my point across. Adderall is my medium to not only expressing myself, but opening up to others as well.

Summarized:
Adderall will undoubtedly, in every possible aspect, improve and enhance your physical and physiological capacity significantly. Every part of your body will begin to work in unison, and with more capacity, allowing you to extend your abilities beyond that of your normal self. This is all accomplished with little to no effort involved. Your physical and mental boundaries dissolve, breaking the cage that restricts all actions you perform conscious and subconsciously. Embrace that influential, breathtaking energy you feel flow through you, and utilize it to better yourself and make the day a more productive one.


Doses:
Medicinal - I've seen 10mg to 60mg and more taken daily in both instant and extended releases... start low and work your way up. Taking 60mg IR early in the day has had a much more medicinal impact on my life, but provides recreational aspects of the high as well. For medicinal I would suggest about 30mg to start, possibly 20mg if you are small. The effects can be subtle at the correct medicinal dosage, so don't get too worked up about trying to feel it, just let it do it's job and go about your day; you will notice a difference.

Recreational - Same concept... start with small doses. At around 6' 135lb, 60mg instantly released is a great amount for me, but I always take it on an empty stomach as well, which enhances it's effects. I recommend an empty stomach or just eating something light. Around 50-60mg is a very decent recreational dose for most people, but some prefer 80mg or even more (I discourage this). I much prefer instant due to the unmistakibly more intense and profound experience it offers. If you wish to "tweak", I still recommend starting around 50mg, but if you wish, I still recommend starting with 50-60mg and dosing more later.

... remember you can always redose if you need more, but you cannot undo what has already been done.

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Bad?
There's a few things you should keep in mind.

We have our loss of appetite (weight loss and lacking the daily nourishments which help maintain our health). Personally, I have many stomach problems, so while on Adderall even looking in the fridge tends to make me a tad nauseous; I simply cannot down food. However, when questioned, everyone I know who holds a script exclaimed that loss of appetite isn't nearly as profound when taken for a more extensive period; which leads me into our next subject...

The Dependency (inability to feel "normal" without the aid of Adderall as well as the physical damage the body endures). Long periods of use can lead to some significant destruction to one's health and well-being. Remember, Adderall is a mix of Amphetamine and Dextroamphetamine, and neither substances should be underestimated. Adderall most definitely has the capability to manipulate every aspect of your life; the same aspects you initially used Adderall to improve on. It will take your willpower and grasp on tighter and tighter, until it's hold is virtually definitive and seemingly endless, so please, please, please indulge responsibly.

To top it off... Coming Down (when everything catches up to you). Currently I am running on about 40 hours, having not eaten in 27 of those, and I am physically and mentally exhausted, but stimulated enough to keep me awake. If my connect came through earlier I would have just toked for a bit until I ate some food and slept (bud being my favorite for coming down), but unfortunately I don't even have the gift of Klonopin to help come down with ease tonight. However, I have never had these comedowns I always hear of... people never taking Adderall again because of the comedown alone, or just in general I've heard countless complaints in regards to it's hellish comedown. I'm not saying these comedowns are exaggerated or bullshit, because I believe them to be true, but personally I have yet to experience anything remotely close to said comedowns. I think a lot of this is due to my lower doses. I experience tiredness spread throughout my entire body, a headache which feels as though my skull in aching, and a little uneasy stomach (from not eating). Occasionally I will become somewhat irritable due to the inconsistent sleep schedule and generally staying awake for that many hours at a time. I just, to put it short, feel downright shitty, but nothing excessive. I really suggest taking it slow so you can get a feel for how Adderall effects you; it effects us all differently, always keep that in mind.

Adderall truly alleviates my worries, and furthermore provides the motivation and ability I seek to vanquish this brick wall set before me. I only hope Adderall has the same positive impact on your life as it has mine.

I hope ya read all of that... that last bit was written at a previous time (about two weeks ago); I'm actually on Adderall right now (medicinally) to get me through today, but I'm not coming down nor have I been up for long; my day is just beginning. Going with my girl today to get her on birth control, heh, should be fun. I hope you read this and it answers some questions or possibly made for some new ones. I've dedicated vast amounts of time learning about Adderall through reading and personal experiences, doing a lot of documentation along the way. Only second (by far, though) to cannabis, Adderall has been the most significant substance to impact my life; I have become a much stronger person, mostly psychologically, with the help of Adderall.

[waterhurley]

ok question for you.

im 20 almost 21 and ive all throughout high school thought i might have some form of ADD. Recently ive read more on it. Being an adult and not in high school, what tyoes if tests will they conduct on me if i ask for a test? im already on .5mg clonazeoam .5mg and citalopram for genral anxity diroder, will these react iwth some AMP? alo who what i need to say to 'gurentee' some addys? not that ill do harm by them but still.....

[theVirtuoso]

Well, I'm afraid I don't have the experience there in it's entirety yet, because I'm on the same path as you... prescribed Klonopin and trying to get prescribed Adderall, but I went through months and months of different prescriptions, part of that time being stimulants to help me concentrate.

There are numerous variables involved, but I'll try to give as much help as I can...

This is very dependent on your doctor and your relationship with him or her. Most PCP (family doctors; primary care physician) dislike scripting "harder" meds and would rather you went to a specialist, so first thing is you would need to see a psychiatrist. Seeing as you already take a Benzo and SSRI it leads me to believe you already do.

The key difference between ADD and ADHD is the individual's behavior. I would personally say Adderall is more commonly scripted to those with ADHD. As kids use Adderall to "tweak" recreationally, kids with ADHD feel the opposite and are calmed down by Adderall; the H is for hyperactivity so in other words ADHD are people who become hyper when they lose their ability to focus, whereas ADD deals more with what is just going on inside one's own head. ADD can land you a script for a lot of the non-recreational CNS stimulants seeing as there's no need to be calmed down, but in more prominent cases of ADD Adderall can be prescribed because of the need for a much stronger stimulant.

For a very long time I thought it was all anxiety and it wasn't until recently when I discovered a lot of my "anxiety" was actually ADD (although I still have a significant amount of anxiety... not one benzo gives any form of relief anymore).

Basically, ADD is the inability to concentrate. You find your thoughts distracting, pulling your conscious away from your surroundings. If someone is speaking to you, you find it hard to listen and probably drift off; kind of like daydreaming. You can become restless due to lack of brain stimulation. You will find yourself constantly looking for stimulation... anything to focus your thoughts on so they don't wander (racing thoughts).

ADD/ADHD are really two of the most easiest "diseases" to become diagnosed with. They all factor with something the majority of the people on this Earth have problem doing: concentrating, focusing; whatever you wish to call it... and even being productive and just overall motivated to accomplish goals.

I do not condone faking problems or lying to your doctor, but if you were to go in there for ADD...

Tell your psychiatrist you can't concentrate on your task whether it be school or work or anything else important, and that you become restless if you aren't doing anything; you constantly seek stimulation. You find it impossible to keep a train of thought or listen to or converse with people because your mind forcefully wanders off (your thoughts are actually distracting you). Make it apparent that this inability to focus is affecting your daily life very negatively. Odds are the doc would start you off with a much weaker medication; with luck you could get a low dose concerta script, which is like weak ritalin and needs to go through a process to become recreational (if anyone has concerta and wants to know that process; PM me).

My doctors knew I smoked weed so that alone made it at least three times more difficult to obtain my Klonopin prescription, so do not put out any vibes to your doc that you are using any substances for any reason because they will discontinue listening to anything you have to say. So... don't expect what you want right away as you may need to go through a few medications or even more (I went through over a dozen different med combinations in ~7 months until I was scripted Clonazepam aka Klonopin)

If you have any other questions or I missed something (I feel like I did; Adderall tends to make me ramble) please let me know so I can answer them. Unfortunately I have to leave for now, so I won't be able to answer questions for a bit.

[joe Biggs]

i have a question. why do threads such as this, do people say 30 gets them going when i need at least 100mg IR to feel 'good'. i am 6' 140 lbs. and always take them in the morning without breakfast, tho sometimes ill have had a big dinner. the pills i get look like this . being blue then white. tho its not 'see through'. also there 50 IR. at least thats what im told.

[theVirtuoso]

The stoner part of me that just hit the bong thought you thought those 15mg were 50mg hehe, but then the conscious part of me realized what you said.

This question I'm afraid I cannot answer I have no experience with said 50mg capsules; I only have knowledge of up to 30mg and have never personally seen higher, although you must be like the sixth person I've seen to mention the higher mg (I think all said 50mg).

As I stated in the original post, though, it effects everyone differently. Maybe you aren't taking 100mg (the pills are lower mg than you think?). Try and find pics or some form of documentation of these higher mg pills.

Also... are you eating before dosing the Adderall? If so... how long before and what usually? How are you taking it? Are you crushing the beads inside and taking those orally (my recommendation)?

There are a lot of variables, man, but the majority of it comes from how it effects us person to person, and our state of minds as well. Even though that's a high dose it's possible for it to have more subtle effects on you than you're noticing. Just try not to think about it after you take it next time, and do it on an empty stomach. Again, though... try and find a picture or something of these higher mg.

But It's time for me to go... peace

[joe Biggs]

wait im talking about Vyvanse. thought i should make that clear.

[theVirtuoso]

Vyvanese is designed to mock Adderall. 50mg of Vyvanese is about the equivalent of 30mg XR Adderall supposedly and in trials 150mg of Vyvanese produced likeable euphoric effects similar to 40mg of Dextroamphetamine (Dextroamphetamine helps make up Adderall). It's developed as an extended release chemical and is attempting to replace Adderall because of Adderall's detrimental effects on the body... one mother sees her child on a pharmaceutical, the other only sees her child on speed. If you plan on going to a psychiatrist for Adderall, plan on being prescribed Vyvanese first.

It's still relatively new and I've had no experience with it first-hand, neither have I done too much reading on it due to lack of interest.

[joe Biggs]

i get all effects (positive and negative) that you say you get from Adderall from 100mg (IR) Vyvanse.

it works for concentration, confidence, anit-anxiety, euphoria, you name it. .

[theVirtuoso]

Originally Posted by joe Biggs

i get all effects (positive and negative) that you say you get from Adderall from 100mg (IR) Vyvanse.

it works for concentration, confidence, anit-anxiety, euphoria, you name it. .

That's good. I'll admit I'm still skeptical as I'm almost positive I'll be prescribed this and haven't heard many good things, but I don't want to decide whether it works or not before I try it, although with what Adderall has given me and just how accustomed I am to it; it's going to be hard to adjust to something else. Adderall is one of the few pharms that I don't have side effects severe enough to effect my daily life negatively. Other scripts I've had made me a zombie, had my heart pounding a foot out of my chest, or whatever... I already went through hellish experiences because my doctor didn't want to script me what worked and instead started with the weakest med possible and worked his way up... I just hate that I'll have to go through this again. /ramble

[joe Biggs]

i know what you mean. xanax and klonopin do nothing at the does they tell me. and hardly anything at 4 to 5 times what they say. self medicate ftw. but i wouldnt get down on vyvanse. it works wonders. tho there is negative effects for me. crash (headache/stress), jaw grinding, a bit of a heavy heart feeling, nausea on the comedown.

tho that compares nothing to the positives.

[rnc3147]

I have a prescription for methylphenidate xr 54mg (Concerta), and the effects are very similar...the thing that sucks about it for medicinal use (every day), is that about mid-day, my energy plummets and I become very tired.

[Nag Hamadi]

I might be started on Adderall in a couple weeks or so, so this is helpful. Thanks!

[theVirtuoso]

Originally Posted by Nag Hamadi

I might be started on Adderall in a couple weeks or so, so this is helpful. Thanks!

Glad I was of some help

[*wakeNbake]

Just got my script today for 10 mg IR

i guess i have a very low tolerance for meds because with 10mg, i will clean my room top to bottom and/or study like crazy.

Same thing with Klonopin, the doc tells me to take 1mg twice a day but i take .5mg twice a day and feel great all day. and its not even like im small, i lift 5 times a week and am currently 5'11" 185lbs.

but i can sure take in a lot of nug thats for sure


EDIT: sorry for digging up the old post, i did a search for addy and this came up haha

[BlaqueWhyteGrei]

Currently I am prescribed .5mg Kpinz, 50mg Zoloft and 20mg of Zyprexa. Would being prescribed to Adderall or another stimulate conflict with any of the effects of the other said substances?