GOVERNMENT Keeping Secrets? What do you Believe??

[labyrinth]

Originally Posted by METHOD_MAN

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...w/1227842.html

well if thats the case then . lol


they cant come up with any hard evidence towards a conspiracy nor can they come up with any hard evidence that Bin Laden had anything to do with it. Maybe It was Conspired by M.A.S.K. or possibly G.I. Joe then??


there isnt any evidence for anything. lol so that means there are more people out there who are gonna come up with crazy conspiracy theories.

[aaronman]

The weirdest part about 9/11 is WTC Building #7. The fact that it wasn't even included in the 9/11 report is the sketchiest part.

Larry Silverstein (owner) said in a PBS documentary that they eventually made the decision "to pull it" during the day, meaning destroy the building. So what if they did rig it with explosives and demolish it for safety purposes??

It would take well over the time they were given to plant the charges throughout the structure, meaning the explosives must have already been in place.

Not only that, but British media reported that WTC #7 collapsed 30 minutes before it actually did.

What was in building 7? A lot of dirt on high ranking officials (Giuliani). Not to mention, Silverstein profited over $250 million from insurance.

Then all the withholding of evidence on the plane that hit the pentagon is sketchy. They have so many cameras that would give a good angle of the plane, but they won't release any. They also don't mention that the pentagon has built in defense missiles. Why weren't they deployed?

And what ever happened to the news report of the white van with explosives on the GW bridge that had 2 Israelis in it?

I want to believe it wasn't our government, but why don't they just address these issues and settle it once and for all? If they are telling the truth they should have nothing to hide...

[Kbasa]

Originally Posted by aaronman

I want to believe it wasn't our government, but why don't they just address these issues and settle it once and for all? If they are telling the truth they should have nothing to hide...

Yeah, I'm with you, but there is something up with this.

[Buzzard]

Originally Posted by Kbasa

Notice how the top floors collapsed above the impact site with the least amount of weight above it? It shows that something was up, also what about the fire resistant coating on the beams? It also doesn't explain the the almost freefall of the building or the molten iron that were found in the debris. Also it falls straight down, and not to mention BBC reports WTC7 collapsing 20 minutes before it actually does. Also WTC7 collapses from the bottom down even though the fires were in the middle of the building?

these videos explain it better and are better than loose change.

http://www.911revisited.com/video.html

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.tv/911.php

It wasn't freefall.


It's amazing how most truthers are too lazy to find out the truth.


We had a Zeitgeist thread once where i refuted (with evidence) the idiotic "demolition" theory.

[CosmicSerpent]

This is kind of a vague question. I think it's pretty undeniable that in the very least, they tried to cover a few things up to make themselves not look so bad. So in that aspect, yes I believe the government is keeping secrets about 9/11. However, I don't think they are keeping secrets so significant that they would completely change the public's overall perception about what happened.

I don't believe that any part of the U.S. government was intentionally involved in the planning, organization, or execution of the attack. I don't believe there were any demolition explosives or bombs involved. I believe bin Laden and al-Qaeda were the sole parties responsible, and that the mainstream account is basically true. So far, I have not seen any evidence that would convince me otherwise.

What I do believe may have been covered up were warnings received by top government officials prior to the attack, but most importantly the response and lack of decision-making once it was actually unfolding that morning. They realized that their handling of the situation was horrible, and did everything possible to divert the public's attention from it. No doubt the media was involved too. But that's about as far as any "secrecy" goes.

None of the 9/11 conspiracy theories add up. If the government had really attempted something like this, the result would be a botched unsuccessful operation that exposed itself early on. I refuse to believe that Bush and his administration are capable of such a large scale organized secret attack. He hasn't done anything else with precision and accuracy during his administration, so what makes so many people think he would have the necessary qualities and resources to pull an inside job?

[Tommot76]

Haha I voted both since I dont believe the government purposely set the whole thing up, but I think there is a lot of reasoning and answers they arent going to explain to us

[Kbasa]

Originally Posted by Buzzard

It wasn't freefall.


It's amazing how most truthers are too lazy to find out the truth.


We had a Zeitgeist thread once where i refuted (with evidence) the idiotic "demolition" theory.

I didnt say freefall, I said almost freefall.

Copy your argument from zeitgeist to here.

[aaronman]

Originally Posted by CosmicSerpent

He hasn't done anything else with precision and accuracy during his administration, so what makes so many people think he would have the necessary qualities and resources to pull an inside job?

He's fooled a lot of people into going to war for him at least once, he's advanced the neocon globalist agenda tremendously, and all his financial supporters have been made filthy rich in the process.

I don't believe all of the theories surrounding 9/11, like that they were actually missiles, or r/c controlled planes, the puffs of air shooting out of the windows are arguably caused by high pressures not explosives... But what do you think about the questions surrounding Building #7, and the fact that it was excluded from the official report all together?

Edit: damn, got moved to the crazy section too quick.

[Tyro!]

Here's the sequel to Loose Change: Unfastened Coins.



But seriously, I got into all of this conspiracy theory stuff awhile back when Loose Change first came out. Unfortunately some of it is probably true, but due to the extraordinary cover up jobs, there's really not much that we can do about it. The few that may know the truth are always outweighed by the sheep who believe whatever "truth" the government feeds them.

[Bong666]

Originally Posted by labyrinth

come dude thats Bull shit the us is not keeping secrets from us about 9/11 but iraq/iran is hole new story ... like this what im about ti say its not a lie... the pentagon told the media that it was called operation iraqi freedom or OIF but the troops said that it was called operation iraqi liberation or OIL !!!! wtf man blood for oil??? and one more story about Iran we had special forces operations in iran for 3 years now FACT i just seen this off of cnn looks like operation iran freedom is next or should i say operation irani liberation or OIL.. sad we go to war for oil . makes me feel down sometimes but i love my country i hope for peace

[Bong666]

http://search.cnn.com/search?type=vi...t+oil&x=2&y=11 video inside

[pavlakos]

i didnt read any posts except for the first one and the few i skimmed while scrolling down, but heres my input:

9/11/1990 (solar maximum) George Bush Sr. announces NWO being in view.
exactly 11 years later, on the next solar maximum, the three towers, not two, but three towers fell.
keep in mind Hitlers false flag attack, aka Reichstag Fire, which let him pass the Enabling Act, essentially a 1940s version of the Patriot Act.
Now, Bush, upon knocking down the towers, has reason to go into Afghanistan, harvest mass quantities of opium(obvioulsy Bush didnt do it personally), sell them on the black market, go into Iraq, rob their oil, all while slowly surrounding Iran, which wishes to remain a sovereign nation, to instigate a war between the Muslims and Jews, and ultimately turning it into a WW3, killing off large quantities of people as planned.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/...owers_bush.htm
^interesting




EDIT: call me crazy, but i also believe that we are there for much more than oil. i believe we wanted access to iraq to take away the last of a technology which allows the user to look into the future, which saddam hussein had. i believe many countries had the technology and saddam had the last one and refused to destroy it, because the technology was overused and would ultimately cause the destruction of the planet.

EDIT2: dont forget the bill our beloved president bush passed pardoning him of all warcrimes, which basically gives him the right to do them again....

[Bong666]

Originally Posted by pavlakos

i didnt read any posts except for the first one and the few i skimmed while scrolling down, but heres my input:

9/11/1990 (solar maximum) George Bush Sr. announces NWO being in view.
exactly 11 years later, on the next solar maximum, the three towers, not two, but three towers fell.
keep in mind Hitlers false flag attack, aka Reichstag Fire, which let him pass the Enabling Act, essentially a 1940s version of the Patriot Act.
Now, Bush, upon knocking down the towers, has reason to go into Afghanistan, harvest mass quantities of opium(obvioulsy Bush didnt do it personally), sell them on the black market, go into Iraq, rob their oil, all while slowly surrounding Iran, which wishes to remain a sovereign nation, to instigate a war between the Muslims and Jews, and ultimately turning it into a WW3, killing off large quantities of people as planned.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/...owers_bush.htm
^interesting

EDIT: call me crazy, but i also believe that we are there for much more than oil. i believe we wanted access to iraq to take away the last of a technology which allows the user to look into the future, which saddam hussein had. i believe many countries had the technology and saddam had the last one and refused to destroy it, because the technology was overused and would ultimately cause the destruction of the planet.

EDIT2: dont forget the bill our beloved president bush passed pardoning him of all warcrimes, which basically gives him the right to do them again....

what the what drugs are u on?!! i want some!!!!