I beleive in

[thirdworldarmy]

"KILL WHITEY" ....wait I'm white... don't kill me kill the worthless ones.

[jdubb]

fuck black power. fuck white power.


MULTIRACIAL POWER!
and the mutts shall inherit the earth

[Chaohinon]

this thread gets 3/5

[CosmicSerpent]

Originally Posted by Highbinder

Yes I saw the parallel CosmicSerpent. But to me 'black' intolerance is just as bad as 'white' intolerance.

What intolerance? The precepts listed suggest that this church wants to better the black community. No where does it imply that black people are somehow special or more important than white people. No where does it imply that white people don't deserve equal opportunity also.

Originally Posted by stupor_farms

No black person in this country today has ever been a slave. No white person in the country today, even the most bigoted, has ever owned a black man.

Yes but the consequences of slavery continued on for more than a century after it was over. Ever heard of segregation/Jim Crow laws? Because there are plenty of black people in this country today who lived through that.

Have you ever been forced to attend inferior schools and use inferior restrooms because of the color of your skin? Have you ever been forbidden to sit in the same section as another person because of the color of your skin, be it in public transportation, restaurants, or otherwise? Have you ever not been able to find a job because of the color of your skin?

The people who authored these "racist statements" can answer yes to every one of those questions. Fortunately our country has come a long way since that time, but I can completely understand a person's inability to simply "forgive and forget" after being subjected to intolerance for so long.

And let's not kid ourselves... racism still exists. I live in the heart of the South, so maybe I'm exposed to it more so than other areas of the country, but I think we can agree it hasn't gone away entirely. Remember the controversy over the nooses that appeared in various locations last summer?

Even segregationist policies haven't disappeared altogether. For instance, the state constitution of Alabama mandates that "Separate schools shall be provided for white and colored children, and no child of either race shall be permitted to attend a school of the other race." to this day. Although Supreme Court rulings have rendered laws like this unenforceable and illegal to carry out, a proposal to repeal this provision was narrowly defeated in 2004.

So is it really that unreasonable for black people to want better things for their race? Is it intolerant and racist to push our society to overcome prejudice? I think not.

[heated]

I realize this is kind of a parralel attack on the black ones, so all I really have to say is lol chicken

[stoned budda]

Originally Posted by CosmicSerpent

What intolerance? The precepts listed suggest that this church wants to better the black community. No where does it imply that black people are somehow special or more important than white people. No where does it imply that white people don't deserve equal opportunity also.


Yes but the consequences of slavery continued on for more than a century after it was over. Ever heard of segregation/Jim Crow laws? Because there are plenty of black people in this country today who lived through that.

Have you ever been forced to attend inferior schools and use inferior restrooms because of the color of your skin? Have you ever been forbidden to sit in the same section as another person because of the color of your skin, be it in public transportation, restaurants, or otherwise? Have you ever not been able to find a job because of the color of your skin

The people who authored these "racist statements" can answer yes to every one of those questions. Fortunately our country has come a long way since that time, but I can completely understand a person's inability to simply "forgive and forget" after being subjected to intolerance for so long.

And let's not kid ourselves... racism still exists. I live in the heart of the South, so maybe I'm exposed to it more so than other areas of the country, but I think we can agree it hasn't gone away entirely. Remember the controversy over the nooses that appeared in various locations last summer?

Even segregationist policies haven't disappeared altogether. For instance, the state constitution of Alabama mandates that "Separate schools shall be provided for white and colored children, and no child of either race shall be permitted to attend a school of the other race." to this day. Although Supreme Court rulings have rendered laws like this unenforceable and illegal to carry out, a proposal to repeal this provision was narrowly defeated in 2004.

So is it really that unreasonable for black people to want better things for their race? Is it intolerant and racist to push our society to overcome prejudice? I think not.

I no all to well racism is alive and well in America, i have a black son inlaw and grandchild, and I agree the black man suffered long after actual slavery ended, but two wrongs don't make a right.

If memory serves me, the civil rights movement was about equality of the races, did that change? How can we ever be equals when we cant let go of the past and move forwards? Im not saying abandon your roots and religion, but you cant progress till you come to terms with the pain of the past, except it and move on.
All to often you see in the black community persons such as Al Sharpton, Jesse, And the reverend Wright's may have started their life's work with the best of intentions but some where along the way they turned into nothing more than race baiting poverty pimps who profit from dessension amongst the races, and keeping the black man in poverty by poisoning their self worth through entitlement programs such as welfare. They have no interest in the black man coming to terms with the past. They try and convince the black community that all is the fault of white America.

That "manifesto" called the black value system is just another example of an attempt to cause dissension.

Martin Luther King must be spinning in his grave at what his movement has become.

[negligent]

gettin into david lane are we?

he makes alot of good points

and i really hate when black people bitch about slavery n being treated unfair n shit like they deserve to run the world or somethin, cuz theres this thing called reality, and that reality is that this world wouldnt be where its at as far as technology and society if it werent for white people... white people established america and europe, wrote the constitution, and basically created the civilized world, call it racism, i call it truth, i dont see a whole hell of alot of advancement in africa, i dont think they've even so much as thought of the wheel yet

sorry if i sound offensive, but rather than look at the world as everyone is equal like you've been forcefed to think, you need to look back in history and look at facts.. sure now in the US blacks white hispanics whatever are basically on the same level because we all have gone through the same educational programs and have equal oppurtunities and what not (hell, "minorities" have more rights than whites today, its easier to get government assistance, you automatically get the upperhand when competing for a job with someoen white, you get more points on college shit just for being a minority, etc.), but back in the day it was whites who set out to develop their own society and break free of the bullshit in britain. and if u wanna bitch about slavery, it was white people who set the slaves free as well

white pride world wide, its not racist to be proud of who you are and your people and what they've done throughout history. i dont hate people on an individual basis (aka i wont hate u because ur black jew mexican whatever) but i do tend to look at the facts without calling them racist, such as black crime is higher than white, theres more hard drugs sold by minorities than whites, etc. its plain as day, but if i point it out i'm a racist just since i'm white and did so. learn how to open ur fuckin eyes and view the facts regardless of what color mouth they come out of

final war-
cant you see whats goin on today
everyone but us has had there say
you can sing about murder, rape and drugs
but when it comes to white pride your voice is shunned
can be proud to be black or proud to be brown
but if your white your taught to feel down
these are the reasons for our songs
to instill a sense of pride that so many long
parental advisory we speak the truth
explicit lyrics of realistic views
its thought control imprisonment of the mind
forcefed bullshit facts and lies
free your mind you hear on mtv
and expand your thoughts with diversity
but your mind is not free if your told what to think
rather tahn expanding your mind starts to shrink
mainstream or not my voice will be heard
and open up the eyes of the brainwashed blur
freedom of speech is hypocrisy
they try n censor or music nationally

http://forum.grasscity.com/newreply....te=1&p=2497960

edit: little known fact: most of the big slave ships werent owned by white people, they were jewish owned, but since jewish people look almost exactly like white people we catch the blame, i cant remember the site that has an article on it.

[CosmicSerpent]

Originally Posted by negligent

white pride world wide, its not racist to be proud of who you are and your people and what they've done throughout history.

I'm not trying to disrespect you, but don't you see the irony in what you're saying? Why are white people allowed to be proud of who they are, but black people aren't?

[negligent]

i never said they werent, i just hate how if your a proud black person people respect it and your empowered, but if your proud to be white your just a scumbag ignorant biggot

like i said nowadays everyone is equal as far as education and being civilized, but back through history it was white people who paved the way for the world to be the way it is now and i'm damn proud to be a part of that culture (granted right now i'm just a peice of shit heroin addict) but i dont think that i should be criticized for being proud of my peoples heritage

edit: i can just feel the hate coming in on my views like a storm, people dont like the truth, especially about race coming from a white guy

[goro the puffer]

Originally Posted by Chaohinon

this thread gets 3/5

FUCKING RORFLMAO

Funniest shit EVER +rep
that shit is fuckin HILARIOUS

[CosmicSerpent]

Originally Posted by negligent

i dont think that i should be criticized for being proud of my peoples heritage

I agree, no one should. That's my whole point... these 12 precepts of the "Black Value System" mention nothing about slavery, nothing about segregation, nothing about getting back at "whitey". They simply suggest that black people should do everything they can to better themselves and their community. They are proud of their heritage just as you are.

Now, I will agree that people like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Reverend Wright have basically become "race baiting poverty pimps who profit from dessension amongst the races" as stoned budda said so bluntly. But also like he said, they started out with good intentions. I don't think there is anything wrong with trying to strengthen the black community, however the way these individuals are going about it is wrong. But this "Black Value System" isn't a reflection of that. The 12 precepts that it outlines should be applauded, but unfortunately ideas like these are exploited and twisted around all too often. There is nothing wrong with the ideas themselves, it's the execution of them that is disgraceful.

[stoned budda]

Originally Posted by CosmicSerpent

I agree, no one should. That's my whole point... these 12 precepts of the "Black Value System" mention nothing about slavery, nothing about segregation, nothing about getting back at "whitey". They simply suggest that black people should do everything they can to better themselves and their community. They are proud of their heritage just as you are.

Exactly, but why when its a white value system, as Buzzard stated in the beginning of this thread, is it considered bigoted?
Buzzards White Value System also stated nothing of slavery, segregation or anything about African Americans. So i ask why the double standard if we seek true equality?

[CosmicSerpent]

Originally Posted by stoned budda

Exactly, but why when its a white value system, as Buzzard stated in the beginning of this thread, is it considered bigoted?
Buzzards White Value System also stated nothing of slavery, segregation or anything about African Americans. So i ask why the double standard if we seek true equality?

Because people are ignorant, and like you said they have double standards. I never said that it was bigoted or anything like that... in fact I said just the opposite. Here is my initial response when Buzzard posted it as a "White Value System":

Originally Posted by CosmicSerpent

As long as those precepts don't specify that white people are somehow better than other racial groups (which they don't) then no, I don't see a problem at all. Nothing about any of those statements is discriminatory in my opinion.

[Buzzard]

Whywas this thread moved?

[tiny_riots]

Originally Posted by Highbinder

* Commitment to repect one anothers believes
* Commitment to the World Community
* Commitment to the World Family
* Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
* Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
* Adherence to a Work Ethic of equality
* Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
* Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
* Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the
entire Community
* Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening
and Supporting World Institutions that aim to better the world for everyone
* Pledge allegiance to all leaderships who espouse and embrace the ideal of world peace
* Personal commitment to embracement of the above Value System

I really love how you did that.