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Old 02-26-2007, 04:32 AM
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It's legal to grow the flower, you can buy little seed packets of it with a picture of the poppy on it. Just harvest the opium at night or something cause thats definetly not legal.

growing the opium poppy is illegal...u most likely just wont get any hassle..id still say do it in the backyard or the crib though.
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I tried last night with 60g of seeds, We didnt really get much of a yeild at all, how much water would you put in for 60 g? Also after straining it how long is it usualy on heat again?
60% of the seeds means it would be just under 2/3 cup.
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So has anybody else tried this?
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This is pretty interesting. If I can find seeds for cheap, I might try this. I used to work at Dunkin' Donuts, and they had 5 pound containers of poppy seeds up there. I might swing by one night and try to get one of those .

If anyone's interested in growing poppy and harvesting opium the traditional way, check out this thread at the shroomery. Very detailed

Oh, and for straining the seeds, I'd try layers of cheesecloth.
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I'm about too....but I'm sitting here with 1000g of seeds ( they were on sale go figure ) so it cost me like 5$ ....I'm wondering though...is it better to do it in smaller batches or actually like dump the whole 1000g of seeds in and follow the recipe? I'm assuming that after cooking 1000g I'd have a shit ton of opium gunk at the bottom...which would burn off faster than it would with smaller amounts of seeds...any input would be awesome.
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sweet guide I might have to try this.
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I'm about too....but I'm sitting here with 1000g of seeds ( they were on sale go figure ) so it cost me like 5$ ....I'm wondering though...is it better to do it in smaller batches or actually like dump the whole 1000g of seeds in and follow the recipe? I'm assuming that after cooking 1000g I'd have a shit ton of opium gunk at the bottom...which would burn off faster than it would with smaller amounts of seeds...any input would be awesome.
I would do all 1000gs at once if you have a pot big enough. You're dealing with pretty small amounts of opiates here, so the more material you use, the higher your yield will be.
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I would do all 1000gs at once if you have a pot big enough. You're dealing with pretty small amounts of opiates here, so the more material you use, the higher your yield will be.
Cool, thanks man
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Ionce smoked straight up poppy seeds and got high. It was like a weak indica/ hash high. But that was just the seeds i smoked. i cant wait to try the extract. This sounds cool. Oh yes, if its illegal to grow poppies, why then does the Burpee seed co. list oriential opium poppy seeds in their catalog? I think its more likely that its legal to grow poppies if you're not going to make opium from them, but if its opium you want its illegal. The way i see it, plant em outside in a flower bed and the fuzz will just think that theyre ornamental flowers.
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Growing opium poppies is definitely an illegal activity, they are one of only two plants originally listed in the drug laws, and only the seeds for the purpose of consumption are exempt. for a while there was a poppy control act but it was repealed when because poppies where already made illegal. They list them in some major seed catalogs but will call them other things, such as the bread seed poppy, papaver paeoniflorum, hens and chicks etc. The oriental poppy isn't an opium poppy, it contains opiate alkaloids, most notably thebain, which is a precursor used by the pharmacutical industry to produce various opiod painkillers. Papaver Rhoes (sp?) is also available comercialy, and is active for those that don't have a tolerance, but arent opium poppies. California poppies and papaver atlanticium (sp?) are also active in there own ways, but are not opium poppies.

This isn't technically opium, and you arnt really extracting anything, you are simply making a dilute rinse of the opium that has collected on the seeds. It isn't really smoke-able, and you don't want to over heat it, the major active component is morphine, which is destroyed at high temperatures, so if you where to scorch or burn this it would destroy a good deal of the goodies. You would be better off drinking it as a tea. Nasty but effective. Be careful though, you can OD on this stuff if you take to much, and it can definitely be addicting. As my name implies I'm a junky, not that I don't like weed, I just love opies, and I know what I love, this is all 100% correct info.

And to the person that asked about flowering poppies, they're the opposite of MJ, they need lengthening days to flower instead of shortening. Try16 hours of light or so and grow them under 11 or 12. Poppies are best grown outdoors though, and don't over water them. They don't transplant well, though it is possible.

Good Luck w/ your opiate adventures.

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Growing opium poppies is definatly an illegal activity, they list them in some major seed catalogs but will call them other things, such as the bread seed poppy, papaver peoniflorum, hens and chicks etc. The oriental poppy isnt an opium poppy, it contains opiate alkaloids, most noteably thebain, which is a precursor used by the pharmacutical industry to produce variouse opiod painkillers.

This isnt technicaly opium, and you arnt really extracting anything, you are simply making a dilute rinse of the opium that has collected on the seeds. It isnt really smokeable, and you dont want to over heat it, the major active companent is morphine, which is destroyed at high temperatures, so if you where to scorch or burn this it would destroy a good deal of the goodies. You would be better off drinkingit as a tea. Nasty but effective. Be careful though, you can OD on this stuff if you take to much, and it can definatly be addicting. As my name implys I'm a junky, not that I dont like weed, I just love opies, and I know what I love, this is all 100% correct info.

And to the person that asked about flowering poppies, they're the oposite of MJ, they need lengthening days to flower instead of shortening. Try16 hours of light or so and grow them under 11 or 12. Poppies are best grown outdoors though, and dont over water them. They dont transplant well, though it is possible.

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haha great thread. Im confused about opium though. I heard its really addicting?
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haha great thread. Im confused about opium though. I heard its really addicting?
How addicting something is is relative. Opiates can be very addicting if you like them. Some do some dont, those that really love em are fucked though. Unlike cocaine or meth opiates have a hardcore physical WD aspect to them, though the mental part is what gets you anyways. Dont get me wrong WD is absolute hell, but its killer depresion and cravings that kill ya. Depending on how long you've had a habit this can last a week or a couple years. There are people that manage to use opiates speradicaly and not become addicted, but once you've picked up a habit its really hard to do this.

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