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You know, I wonder how many of yall will have a different opinion on this subject

once you have children. What if you had a son and he grew up to be gay, I'm willing

to bet you wouldn't be very happy.


I'm not a Homophobe, believe it or not but I have a couple of gay friends. They

know my stance on the subject but they also know I'm not gonna Judge them

for their decisions. . . .
when/if i have a child/children son/daughter and they grew up to be a homosexual i would love them just the same as if they were hetero. Its called unconditional love, bro. Learn it.


Edit: the only thing i would be concerned about for them would be the grief they could get for being homosexual, and even then, if someone fucked with my kid for his sexual orientation i would whoop his ass, similar to if someone were to bash on one of my gay friends IRL. People need to learn how to keep their fucking noses out of other peoples business. If it isn't already your issue, then dont fuckin make it your issue...


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If this is how you believe marriage should be then old people shouldn't allowed to be married, barren people shouldn't allowed to be married, and everyone who is married should be forced to have kids or divorce. Sounds awesome!

he made a great point on reproducing, but then again, your argument was even better, if u have a narrow eurethra, ur not allowed ot be married, so sorry for you, BUT hank and Peggy have to get divorced now lol.

edit-to add what nexis said abovce my post, he is totally right, i mean, if my son was gay, im not going to go around bashing him lol. its his decision, and you cant honestly expect him to be able to control being able to choose who he loves. but i swear to god, the first time he is in my house and i catch him fucking his lover in the ass ill never talk to him again. i will THEN disown my son lol
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damn i see where this is going RMJL is strong in this point..arent ya? i found that out the hard way..but we made our difference and smoked a computer joint

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I do have a son and I wouldn't mind one bit if he were gay. I just want him to be happy.
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This might be up for vote in my state this year. There's a proposed amendment to our state's constitution going through state congress right now but I'm not sure if it will be up for vote or not. I think I read that it might be. But I have noticed that the local newspapers are being kinda "hush hush" about it, which is upsetting to me. Either way I plan on voting against any kind of amendment that bans marriage or civil unions between gays and lesbians. It's really sad that there are people out there who are trying to use our constitution to discriminate. Absolutely terrible.



If this is how you believe marriage should be then old people shouldn't allowed to be married, barren people shouldn't allowed to be married, and everyone who is married should be forced to have kids or divorce. Sounds awesome!

I think that's gettin a little to technical. I never said anything about divorce because

I personally Don't agree with that Either. I don't believe you should be allowed to get

a divorce (unless under certain circumstances i.e. Husband is abusive).

When you get married you take vows before God. . . .For better for Worse, through

sickness and IN HEALTH. . . .not just until you get sick of each other.

Personally I feel that people that get divorces have just given up. My parent always

taught me that I can Do Anything I put my mind to. The same can be said with

marriage. You can always reviatlize your relationships, it's just depends on

how much work and effort you put in to it. People who get divorces in my eyes are

quitters in 9 out of 10 times.
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Ugh!

Life for human beings would go pretty smoothly if we didn't have individuals that thought they knew what's best for everyone else. The anti-gay vibe that's being exploited by Republicans and weird Moderates is of the same energy that persecutes Marijuana consumers for something as natural as enjoying erb. Make no mistake about it bros; having no position is a position. How far are we going to let the government go before we say enough?

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i disagree shouse, i mean, divorce ALOT of the time is becasue its two kids in there twenties who were in lust not love, who went out and fucked up and got married, not REAL marriage, why in the FUCK would we expect them to be totally in love when after 4 or 5 months you expct them to know everything about eachtoehr, and then they go and get elope on a limb, and now there not allowed out of it?

edit-ak infinity, i NEVER said i didnt have a position on it, my position, is NOT having one.
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I think that's gettin a little to technical. I never said anything about divorce because

I personally Don't agree with that Either. I don't believe you should be allowed to get

a divorce (unless under certain circumstances i.e. Husband is abusive).

When you get married you take vows before God. . . .For better for Worse, through

sickness and IN HEALTH. . . .not just until you get sick of each other.

Personally I feel that people that get divorces have just given up. My parent always

taught me that I can Do Anything I put my mind to. The same can be said with

marriage. You can always reviatlize your relationships, it's just depends on

how much work and effort you put in to it. People who get divorces in my eyes are

quitters in 9 out of 10 times.
well said man im the same way ...thats why you fuckin make sure your in love..thats there fault if they marry for lust
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But Shouse, one of your main arguments for man+woman marriage was reproduction. What about all these old widows and widowers remarrying when they are in their 60's, 70's, 80's? They're way too old for reproducing so they shouldn't be allowed to marry either, don't you agree? And if you're already married and not producing children, what the hell did you get married for? Do you see what I mean? If you're trying to make an argument for man+woman marriage stay away from the reproduction issue. It really doesn't help your case.
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when/if i have a child/children son/daughter and they grew up to be a homosexual i would love them just the same as if they were hetero. Its called unconditional love, bro. Learn it.


Edit: the only thing i would be concerned about for them would be the grief they could get for being homosexual, and even then, if someone fucked with my kid for his sexual orientation i would whoop his ass, similar to if someone were to bash on one of my gay friends IRL. People need to learn how to keep their fucking noses out of other peoples business. If it isn't already your issue, then dont fuckin make it your issue...


Too much hate in the world today man..
For real.
Alright guys. . . Let's not try and be a jerk to me because I don't share your same

views.

If you would have read the post i made, I never said "If your son was gay I don't

think you would Love him." Don't insult me buy assuming that is what I meant.

I said You wouldn't "happy". That's not the same as Love, sorry.

And One more thing, You ASSume that I don't know what Unconditional love is??

If I know anything, that is the thing I know best. I know people don't care, But

I've been a Christian all my life, and love it. I have to Love what I can't see nor

touch on a daily basis, so don't tell me to learn it, bro.

and whose hating? Just cause someone doesn't agree they're automatically mean

hateful homophobes?? Looks like your doing enough pre-judging for all of us.
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All it is legal documents{blahhhhhhh paper work}. I hate paper work unless it's used for a big fatty. So I really don't care either way for marriage. If one of my kids was gay I would love my babies no matter what. I have a sister whom is gay and she puts with alot of BS with family, work, Friends etc.........
A world without judgement would be wonderful but probably not in my life time.
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Alright guys. . . Let's not try and be a jerk to me because I don't share your same

views.

If you would have read the post i made, I never said "If your son was gay I don't

think you would Love him." Don't insult me buy assuming that is what I meant.

I said You wouldn't "happy". That's not the same as Love, sorry.

And One more thing, You ASSume that I don't know what Unconditional love is??

If I know anything, that is the thing I know best. I know people don't care, But

I've been a Christian all my life, and love it. I have to Love what I can't see nor

touch on a daily basis, so don't tell me to learn it, bro.

and whose hating? Just cause someone doesn't agree they're automatically mean

hateful homophobes?? Looks like your doing enough pre-judging for all of us.

My bad if it seemed like i was attacking you man, it wasnt my attention, just saying where i stand and reading back, my bad if i sounded like a dick <3
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noone was attacking you shoushe, this is actually a GREAT debate right now lol.
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First of all for whoever said marraige is sacred or whateverthefuck youre wrong. If you live in America marraige is no longer sacred so why not let gay people get married and be as miserable as all other married couples. I mean we have who wants to marry a millionaire and the bachelor and shit like that there is no way marraige can be considered sacred anymore. Who cares if gay people get married as long as it doesnt effect you why should you care. I mean if i woke up every morning and these gay people were sucking each other off on my front lawn or touching dicks in front of my bowl of oatmeal while im tryin to eat then I would have a problems. But as of right now it doesnt effect any of us so let them be.
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Shouse, you don't have to share our views. You're entitled to believe whatever you want. I just don't think it's fair that a bunch of people think that they have the right (and some think it's their duty ) to force their personal and religious beliefs on others. Especially not in the Constitution, a document that was first and foremost all about freedoms and rights.

And I haven't seen anyone act like a jerk to you yet. This thread has been pleasantly civil.
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