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Old 04-28-2009, 03:33 PM
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Can anyone answer this question? What the HELL happened to "Rap/Hip Hop"..?

It's like..Sick, almost in a way.

Lil wayne, for example.. In my opinion, is just a sellout.

Tell me, can you seriously say that this song would be considered "Rap" ....


He sounds like a damn broken toy.



What happened to this,


or

Real shit.


Does anyone else feel the same..?
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:50 PM
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No idea well you can't really compare the first song with any of 2Pac's songs so
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the first song sounds like shit indeed

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It's like..Sick, almost in a way.

Lil wayne, for example.. In my opinion, is just a sellout.

Tell me, can you seriously say that this song would be considered "Rap" ....

YouTube - Lil Wayne ft. Nutt Da Kid - Guerilla

He sounds like a damn broken toy.



What happened to this,

YouTube - Tupac - Me Against The World

or
YouTube - 2Pac - Thugz Mansion

Real shit.


Does anyone else feel the same..?

Yup. Go watch The video of Lil'Wayne trying to play the guitar at a concert. Stupidest thing i've ever seen. I could drop beats better than all these new fags. Infact, I just might.

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It's undergoing a transition right now..
 
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:37 PM
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Re: Can anyone answer this question? What the HELL happened to "Rap/Hip Hop"..?

People are always sayin the same thing.


Old rock was better than new rock.
Old punk was better that new punk.
Old rap is better that new rap.


Like seriously, if it bothers you so much, get off your fucking couch, put down the bong, and get your ass out there a make a record.
But your all too fuckin lazy, you just like to critizize other people.
 
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:07 PM
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No idea well you can't really compare the first song with any of 2Pac's songs so
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the first song sounds like shit indeed


That's exactly my point, it's all changed and it's turning for the worse, for what it seems like.

Maybe? Maybe not?


I agree though, genres do change over time but..Just my opinion that Rap and Hip Hop is starting to loose it's roots, you know?
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That's exactly my point, it's all changed and it's turning for the worse, for what it seems like.

Maybe? Maybe not?


I agree though, genres do change over time but..Just my opinion that Rap and Hip Hop is starting to loose it's roots, you know?
Definitely not.. If you look at a lot of up and coming artists in the Industry there seems to be a whole general consensus that lyricism is top priority and Hip Hop seems to be moving back to the roots..

Hip-Hop/Rap goes through changes just like any other kind of music.. from 2000-2009 there was a lot of emphasis on the South and their style of music.. Repetitive hooks, dance music.. It's what was different and new at the time..

But just as the South and their music came into prominence, so will other kinds.. Also, it seems as tho the industry started emphasizing the Gangster look and image so much that that's all the anyone was putting out..

And if you only focus on one kind of style and limit the artists you're putting out to only A certain style, that really stiffles innovation which we all saw happen with all of the whack music coming out..

But trust me, Real music will come back into the spotlight again where it should be.. just give it a little time.. Change doesn't happen overnight..

There is still good music coming out tho, you just have to know where to look.


Here are some people to listen to.. Blu, Wale, Kid Cudi, Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West, **Charles Hamilton**, Asher Roth..

It depends on what you're into but there is a good start..
 
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Re: Can anyone answer this question? What the HELL happened to "Rap/Hip Hop"..?

lil wayne... kayne west... young jeezy... thats what happened to Rap..
 
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lil wayne... kayne west... young jeezy... thats what happened to Rap..
Kanye West??? Yea right.. You need to recheck your priorities.. Kanye West is one of the few musically talented people left in the Industry..

You're a dumbass if you think Kanye West killed hip hop.. The other two, however, I agree..


Please explain to me how Kanye West can be attributed with the down fall of hip hop/rap..


Watch Kanye's Part..

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Re: Can anyone answer this question? What the HELL happened to "Rap/Hip Hop"..?

its just like every other music genre

it had its time as the "trend"

but this decades coming to a close

and with every new decade comes a new style of music.


its all been done, its all being redone, its all getting old so its all gonna stop pretty soon and a new genre will take over

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Kanye West??? Yea right.. You need to recheck your priorities.. Kanye West is one of the few musically talented people left in the Industry..

You're a dumbass if you think Kanye West killed hip hop.. The other two, however, I agree..


Please explain to me how Kanye West can be attributed with the down fall of hip hop/rap..


Watch Kanye's Part..
YouTube - Jay-Z & Kanye west Freestyle

Kanye West Sucks! We Finally Said It! Now What? | Music Vixen Blog

Also he steals lyrics !



his use of Auto Tones. As well as Lil wayne using that...

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Re: Can anyone answer this question? What the HELL happened to "Rap/Hip Hop"..?

Its because they all use pitch shifters in the vocals now. It all sounds the same.

Remember that cher song do you believe in life after love?

Yeah it wasnt cool then and it isnt now. It just lets anyone be able to hit any note.

And i hate to say it but kanye west is a bitch. He jumped right on the bandwagon too.




Old rap was good but it ia dead and gone. there is NOTHING new worth listening to....
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Its because they all use pitch shifters in the vocals now. It all sounds the same.

Remember that cher song do you believe in life after love?

Yeah it wasnt cool then and it isnt now. It just lets anyone be able to hit any note.

And i hate to say it but kanye west is a bitch. He jumped right on the bandwagon too.




Old rap was good but it ia dead and gone. there is NOTHING new worth listening to....

Exactly what im saying!!! thank you
 
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Kanye West Sucks! We Finally Said It! Now What? | Music Vixen Blog

Also he steals lyrics !

YouTube - kanye west sucks *READ THE DESCRIPTION*


his use of Auto Tones. As well as Lil wayne using that...

Woowww.. im sorry but you have to be one of the dumbest people i know.. don't talk about music unless you know what's up..

First,

That article states nothing about his abilities as a rapper.. True, Kanye was using Autotune on his latest album.. But he never claimed he could sing and he was merely just doing something different.. He had already put out three Classic Rap Albums.. If anything he should be rewarded for doing something new..

And so what if he throws tantrums? That article was seriously the most retarded thing ive ever read (except for maybe the puusy cat dolls) and is completely unrelated to what we're debating here. That article basically bashed Kanye on his behaviors and because he used Auto Tune for a different type of album.. Im talking about his skills as a rapper.

He himself even stated that his latest album was a different kind of Genre, Pop Art. Not Rap. So that artivle really has no relevance to your argument..


And as for him biting Lyrics.. That video has no fucking relevance either.. The first part, Where Kanye supposedly Jacks the part from 50 cent's song in da club talking about stacking money up..

LISTEN TO THE FULL SONG.. What that video failed to reveal is that Kanye says

"50 told me, gon' head switch the style up, and if they hate then let em hate and watch the money pile up"

Which obviously isnt a bite because he's saying that 50 told him that, the very one that made the song, and this was also during their Sales feud so it makes sense..



Why Don't you actually Listen to West's music before making unsupported Claims and using other's people's biased opinions and form some opinions on your own before jumping on the Hate wagon..

Any true Hip-Hop head will tell you Kanye West is a beast and In my opinion a musical Genius..
 
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