question for bass players

[TubePhan]

Search the model on google or call Washburn

[flyhalf87]

every site ive tried says its out of stock or discontinued, i sent an email to the company- hopefully theyll get back to me soon

edit- i forgot to mention that washburn doesnt have the bantam listed anymore on its website

[seahag]

Originally Posted by Floydian

Just because you can bend strings doesn't mean you can do everything, infact not even half of what you could do with a trem.

And a wah pedal is no substitute, if he's specifically looking for a trem.

Edit; Also, sticking a base player with just a rhythm job alone is a great way to undermine the music ^^

thats ridiculous. pull out your dads vinyl, and spend the rest of your night listening to paranoid(sabbath). geezer doesn't use a wah, nor a whammy, nor any other sort of pedal, attachment, or accessory. any skilled bassist need not worry. also if you try to defend bassists, learn to spell bass. and its quite a compliment to apply the term rhythm to a bassist, considering that confirms the bassist as the backbone, and the upholder of each and every song in its entirety.

[Highbinder]

Originally Posted by flyhalf87

i found that too, but when i found it the site said it had been discontinued... did you find a site that has it?

Sorry, I just have a folder of random guitar pics that exhude awesomeness

[Floydian]

Originally Posted by seahag

thats ridiculous. pull out your dads vinyl, and spend the rest of your night listening to paranoid(sabbath). geezer doesn't use a wah, nor a whammy, nor any other sort of pedal, attachment, or accessory. any skilled bassist need not worry. also if you try to defend bassists, learn to spell bass. and its quite a compliment to apply the term rhythm to a bassist, considering that confirms the bassist as the backbone, and the upholder of each and every song in its entirety.

I was high, and mispelled it. Sorry.

Sure they're the backbone; But when you give them the chance, they can do far more than just a rhythm job (which is what I was saying, that they should never be so confined.) Never once have heard any rule that a 6 string has to play lead.

Second, go on, tell me that you could accomplish all the same dips/dives, trem harmonics, etc, that you could with a tremelo, without one.

Any basic trem has the ability to release tension from whatever note you play, or go beyond what one can bend.

It's rather obviously impossible to "bend down"...

I'm not saying a talented bassist cant do certain things without a trem, but give the same bassists a trem, and it opens up a whole new window of oppourtunity, if that's what they're looking for. Being that that is the case with the OP in this thread, I still don't believe anything other than what he is looking for, a bass with a trem, would be a sufficient substitute.

Edit; For the record (no pun intended,) they are my mothers Vinyl, and she unfortunately has no Sabbath. Even then, you'd have to wrench Meddle out of the turntable, before I put on Sabbath.

[Highbinder]

Originally Posted by Floydian

Never once have heard any rule that a 6 string has to play lead.

I actually much prefer playing rhythm and percussion on the guitar (the style of playing I really want to push)

(And good post dude)

[Floydian]

Originally Posted by Highbinder

I actually much prefer playing rhythm and percussion on the guitar (the style of playing I really want to push)

(And good post dude)

Thanks, d'ye mean percussion as in percussion acoustic...? I've been working on that for about the last half a year, I've always been interested in it.

All I know is there are plenty of bassists who can do a lead, or even a blend of lead and rhythm (Like Hendrix, but on the bass) as well if not better than anyone on 6 strings, and some of my favourite songs have "duels" between the guitar and bass.

Much better than just having them play one or two repeditive basslines throughout the entire song, along with maybe what some may call a lick on a downbeat/drum crash, just because they are supposed to be the "backbone."

Also, as for a comment I made before; Yes I'm aware you could just move to a lower fret and pre-bend, then release, to create a basic dive... but again, still no substitute for actually having a trem. Even if just for the pure sake of being able to play it fluidly.

[flyhalf87]

Originally Posted by seahag

thats ridiculous. pull out your dads vinyl, and spend the rest of your night listening to paranoid(sabbath). geezer doesn't use a wah, nor a whammy, nor any other sort of pedal, attachment, or accessory. any skilled bassist need not worry. also if you try to defend bassists, learn to spell bass. and its quite a compliment to apply the term rhythm to a bassist, considering that confirms the bassist as the backbone, and the upholder of each and every song in its entirety.

youre falling into the trap that a lot of society falls into by saying, "because somebody did it this way and it worked well, it must be the only way to work well" thats a logical fallacy.

hypothetically- everybody likes eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, so everybody eats them for breakfast lunch and dinner. then somebody decides they want to try eating a turkey sandwich instead, but everybody says "look at the guy who made PB & J's, they work perfectly, we all like it this way! why bother trying the turkey sandwich when we already like this" but if the guy who made the turkey sandwich likes it more than the PB & J, who's to say he was wrong?

[Floydian]

+rep

[Key2gb]

there is no certain way to play an instrument...look at guys like Jean Baudin who have taken the bass to such a different dimension...I bet people criticized him at the beginning (until they heard him tap out the Mario theme song)

if you can think of something and make it happen, it is neither right or wrong...it just is

Mark King has some of the most ridiculous bass lines out there....he leads his band (Level 42) by singing as well as playing most of the lead on bass

HOWEVER....it really depends on what type of stuff you're playing....sometimes the bass-as-backbone is really the best overall sound for a song..sometimes rooting is the best thing...but it's never a sure thing..theres always room for improv and fills as well, which add flare but still keep the backbone feel (like Flea although he leads as well in some cases)

[flyhalf87]

Originally Posted by Key2gb

there is no certain way to play an instrument...look at guys like Jean Baudin who have taken the bass to such a different dimension...I bet people criticized him at the beginning (until they heard him tap out the Mario theme song)

if you can think of something and make it happen, it is neither right or wrong...it just is

Mark King has some of the most ridiculous bass lines out there....he leads his band (Level 42) by singing as well as playing most of the lead on bass

HOWEVER....it really depends on what type of stuff you're playing....sometimes the bass-as-backbone is really the best overall sound for a song..sometimes rooting is the best thing...but it's never a sure thing..theres always room for improv and fills as well, which add flare but still keep the backbone feel (like Flea although he leads as well in some cases)

exactly, sometimes i dont mind having a little PB & J instead of a turkey sandwich. i meant that just because somebody did something did something a certain way, doesnt mean you have to to be good. although if you chose to do the same thing that wouldnt stop you from being good either

[flyhalf87]

Originally Posted by Floydian

+rep

thanks man, i went to rep you for your post before i posted mine last night but apparently i havent repped enough people since the last time i repped you lol.

[flyhalf87]

i asked about the washburn bantam, and if they still made it or had a way to get it



We have in the past. Unfortunately...those are long gone. Your only option at this point is to go to the used market for your needs.

Steve Gill
Randall Customer Service
US Music Corp.
Phone: 847.643.5120 | E-Fax: 775.703.1198



i guess i have to go on a treasure hunt

[w33n]

Have you tried to contact a Luthier?

[flyhalf87]

i looked into it but only found ridiculously expensive ones, i think... i might... have to go to guitar center lol. maybe they can help me out