punk rock

[Thrill]

Mmm NOFX. I think "The Decline" is #1 favorite song of all time.

18 minutes and 21 seconds of bliss.

[cuatro veinte]

Originally Posted by Thrill

Mmm NOFX. I think "The Decline" is #1 favorite song of all time.

18 minutes and 21 seconds of bliss.

Yea "The Decline" is the shit. It's the only thing that gives me hope, really.



I'm glad that song was created.

[Perception]

Really, at it's roots, the now-horrendous looking genre tree for punk is quite a trip. Even some of the lesser-known recent post-hardcore punk bands can be quite good. Punk started as the anti-pop (Primus reference not intended). Everything that was popular, conventional, wholesome, tame, oppressive, confining, or otherwise depressing was the object of original Punk's attack. So in accordance with the core of Punk's very anti-consumerism philosphy, most of the true Punks never made it to the spotlight. The Punk movement very quickly became the excessively irrational hair metal movement; and subsequently, the other movement on par with Punk's self-and-society-destructive fetish, Grunge (which then became far too mainstream for it's spokesmodel's liking; Cobain replied to the gluttonous corporate whore his music had become with his suicide/requested murder and successfully killed Grunge). But because of it's firm roots in anti-conventional and anti-moral beliefs, true Punk music has remained a constant but rare staple of any local music scene. There are many bands that have successfully displayed Punk's core of satire-laced rhythms and beats, paired with its intelligently offensive poetic lyrics spotting the music history timeline all the way from the mid-late 1970s up to more recent Gen-Jones and Gen-X Punk projects.

Towards the beginning of the Punk movement, The Sex Pistols were a prime example of the original Punk ideals. They were one of the few to achieve mainstream status, but for good reason. They didn't sell out until later. Back in the beginning, they were popular for their offstage antics; subsequently legend-ized by the Sid & Nancy thing. Sid Killed Nancy, Sid felt guilty, Sid proceeded to kill self. John "Johnny Rotten" Lydon was then left broke with a ticket for the cash train The Sex Pistols became. He is now considered a total sellout prick by most of the Punk community.

More recent Punk-rooted music includes Rancid, Pixies, Sonic Youth, Misfits, At the Drive-in, Mindless Self-Indulgence (sort of), and I'm sure there are plenty that I've never heard of. The firm belief that selling out is the single most gluttonous and disgusting thing an artist can do keeps a lot of Punks from getting any recognition. The genre is more than just the catchy, simplistic rhythm and chord progressions (I know, they are painfully simple). There is a whole philosophy, social commentary, and lifestyle behind all of it.

Don't judge a book by its cover, bro! Come on, you're a stoner, you should know that. =)


Peace!

[vcrs]

oh shit I didnt even see this thread when I posted my nofx thread. oh well.

I love punk, definitely my favorite genre overall. most of the music I write is punk-ish I guess. I recently have seen nofx and anti-flag live, and Im going to goldfinger+less than jake on july 3rd. Im more of a fan of ska-punk, definitely.

[daspurps94]

Saw Alkaline Trio for the first time last week. Awesome show.

[jakelandisgs]

Originally Posted by rumandromanism

I used to be into punk back in the day, I still listen to some of it, mostly classic stuff (not too much contemporary).

Some of the old favorites were Black Flag, the Clash, Anti-Flag ( Underground Network and earlier), Dead Kennedys, Operation Ivy, old Rancid.

Now, I find myself listening more along the lines of Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Rites of Spring, Fugazi, the Jam, Sonic Youth, Mission of Burma.

Thats what I think to be real punk. All of that other stuff is kinda of less, and more poppy. Nothing better than some minor threat.

You guys should learn from this guys and listen to some real fucking punk.

[cuatro veinte]

Originally Posted by jakelandisgs

Thats what I think to be real punk. All of that other stuff is kinda of less, and more poppy. Nothing better than some minor threat.

You guys should learn from this guys and listen to some real fucking punk.

Dude do you listen to those loosely labeled "pop punk" bands? Screeching Weasel, Backside?


The Buzzcocks? The Descendents? The Vandals? Nofx? TSOL? The Queers? Propagandhi? Agent Orange?



You can't deny they're all great bands.

[jakelandisgs]

Originally Posted by cuatro veinte

Dude do you listen to those loosely labeled "pop punk" bands? Screeching Weasel, Backside?


The Buzzcocks? The Descendents? The Vandals? Nofx? TSOL? The Queers? Propagandhi? Agent Orange?



You can't deny they're all great bands.

I am in no way saying they are not good bands, and I like a few of them no doubt, I was just saying that I dont think they are really punk. Or hardcore punk, thats how i think of it, but im not saying im right either, just that thats my opinion

[KingWi11]

Originally Posted by smokeitup421

does anyone here like punk rock? i cant stand it, i reckon its soo shit. i dont understand how people can like this type of music.

I hear you buddy. The Clash is as far as i can go.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Wismoker14

I like punk rock a lot actually...it's probably my favorite genre. I'm a big Blink 182 fan.

If Blink 182 is punk then a monkey just flew out of my ass...Punk is dead.

[cuatro veinte]

Originally Posted by jakelandisgs

I am in no way saying they are not good bands, and I like a few of them no doubt, I was just saying that I dont think they are really punk. Or hardcore punk, thats how i think of it, but im not saying im right either, just that thats my opinion

You don't think they're punk? So what is punk?



Well hardcore punk gets old really fast. It's easy shouting lyrics and playing 3 chords.



These bands have more musical theory to their songs. They actually take time to write a good song. They have more diversity to their writing and aren't limited to making a similar sound over and over again.

[jakelandisgs]

Originally Posted by cuatro veinte

You don't think they're punk? So what is punk?



Well hardcore punk gets old really fast. It's easy shouting lyrics and playing 3 chords.



These bands have more musical theory to their songs. They actually take time to write a good song. They have more diversity to their writing and aren't limited to making a similar sound over and over again.

I'm not even saying their not punk, maybe i did, but i didnt mean it, what I mean is that if i listen to them i dont go this is sweet punk. thats more hardcore for me. I understand hardcore does get old and I dont listen to it much, but You gotta admit hardcore shows are amazing.

[Revolution]

There's a ton of sub-genera's in punk. Some are more "hard" sounding than others. I can go and try to describe all forms of punk from a music standpoint, historical standpoint, and examples of bands if ya want.

[Perception]

Anyone that thinks Punk is dead is a fucking ignorant lazy facist bastard.

[BongOfDestiny]

Originally Posted by rumandromanism

I used to be into punk back in the day, I still listen to some of it, mostly classic stuff (not too much contemporary).

Some of the old favorites were Black Flag, the Clash, Anti-Flag ( Underground Network and earlier), Dead Kennedys, Operation Ivy, old Rancid.

Now, I find myself listening more along the lines of Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Rites of Spring, Fugazi, the Jam, Sonic Youth, Mission of Burma.

Shit thats awesome. Thats some good hardcore music man. Definitely down with all that. Who says hardcore won't live on?