Rap sucks...

illcid · #1 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 04:31 AM

Well, in my opinion I think rap sucks BALLS! I also think to rap has no talent at all. Not compared to someone that can jam on the guitar and sing all at the same time, beautifully with people actually playing instruments with hermonic lyrics, not raping about how phat you are....god...I hate that shit

Rap is trendy music, thats all it is, your friends start to listen to it so you start listening to it, everyone listens to the same rapper as well.

Alternative/rock/jazz/blues

The real music that changed lives and the whole music in general.

In the 1960's, was all about weed and the greatest music ever written and performed. Now, let me ask you this, was rap during those times? no sorry.

I thinks there is a lot of people that can agree with me on al this.

smokin&tokin · #2 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 08:57 AM

well..... i like a little old skool rap, techno is tight, and i mostly listen to cold.... linkin park is ok too, and korn, ICP, pink floyd, marley........ mostly them....

chen · #3 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 09:10 AM

"Rap is trendy music, thats all it is, your friends start to listen to it so you start listening to it, everyone listens to the same rapper as well.
"

thats cuz u are only exposed to the mainstream. its like if i took all of the rock bands on the radio/tv and said.... rock is just commercialized, mass produced pop aimed at suburban white kids. it takes no talent, no creativity, and the "music" they make is not even a product of their own minds. looking purely at what is "popular" and what sells records, it would be hard to disagree with most of that statement. u could find many exceptions, but for the majority that statement is still true. you have only seen one (ugly) side of hiphop and that's all ur opinion is based on.

all genres of music have great artists. not all of the music made in the 60's can be considered art or even great music. but there were great musicians then, just as there are great musicians now in any genre of music. so you cant just look at one aspect of a genre, or an era and say "this is or is not music"

and to definitively say that the 60's produced the greatest music ever written and performed is kinda funny.

illcid · #4 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 09:41 AM

Ok, maybe I was thinking a little too opionated, I agree with what you said, I should have added a couple of words to some of my sentences, like "SOME of the greatest..." If you look at the talent side of music, most smart people will look at what is being played and sung in any kind of music. Most instruments takes years, and years, and years, of practice. Vocals are another thing to look at, while rap has guys coming from no experience at all, sitting down on a stool, and reading in fast sentences off a sheet of paper with lyics, while having prefab music playing in the backgroud. Hmmm, sounds kind of tough. In a lyrical sense, some rap does impress me, while MOST is what you explained that some rock can be as well.

I will agree that all of mainstream music is nothing but a puppet show if you ask me. The true test is to look inside all your CD's at home and find one band that writes their own. You might not find a lot. Its really dumb to play and sing songs, with rich, detailed lyrics explaining somthing that never happened in their life. hmmm, sounds deep, but true.

I will always thinks all trendy "shit" can really go through one ear and out the other, since it has no sugnificance to me. Like I always tell my friends. "Be a LEADER not a FOLLOWER"

For all those young kids, that dont know what I mean, Dont try to custom a civic cause everyone in the US of A has one. If I see one more civic, I swear ill slash the tires. Or Prelude, or integra, or anyother rice burning, slow piece of shit. Wow, I should have put this on a different forum.

sorry, I need to smoke some thai before bed, im getting heated about this. later.

Little Wing · #5 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 10:08 AM

I myself am nto a fan of rap, but I must say, I don't mind what people listen to. I listen to what I enjoy, and let other people listewn to what they enjoy, and I respect that. Sure, a lot of it I think sucks, but if someone likes to listen to it... each to his own...

charlie067 · #6 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 03:55 PM

well i like al kinds of music personly i only liten to rap everynow and then but i dont think rap sucks theres all kinds of talent out there.

i have a friend who is right into the freestyleing shit when he comes over i play guitar and he spits his shit cant say im hearing what hes saying kuz im so zoned into the guitar but when he plays his rap music it doesent bother me at all

but yeah anyway i dont even know why im hear right now its 5;00am in the moring and i have to be in for work at 7am so um going to listen to little wing by hendrix and go to bed night all u stoned crazy blades

ubik · #7 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 06:10 PM

and the same thread is on again. I don't understand why peole stick to the 60s all the time, yes there are some good records but mostly that music is very boring and there aren't that many differences amongst the bands. well if you like it like that and want to listen to that music then ok, but I personally prefer more futuristic view on music, no I'm not talking about just techno but in every area of music there are lot's of bands that do things differently and love to expand the way we understand music. I hate it when people come and say some stuff like "listen to this, this is so great and deep maaan" and then they put on velvet undergroung or pink floyd, yes maybe it was great when it came out and I do like to listen to some of that stuff but mostly all I can hear is just an rock band playing rock song and that isn't that deep.

KraziHare · #8 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 10:08 PM

real rap is poetry

and I just want to mention that I have to look online and in shops for weeks to find some of the rap I listen to, if I listened to rap because it was popular why would I do that?

one more thing; even if I did like rap because it's 'trendy' that's still not as shallow as going on marijuana forums to tell people that the music they love is trendy crap

fuckin poser

D9_THC · #9 (**permalink**) 05-31-2003, 12:45 AM

commercial rap for the most part sucks so much. and hey, i'm a rocker/goth type person if you want to sterotype me, but i love some non-commercial rap.

Krazi Hare, you should look for an english rapper called Roots Manuva. well good.

Illicid... fair play if you don't like rap. But don't be so bold as to tell people they're wrong for listening to it.

maybe if you check out some of these guys you'll think differently.

soul williams
prince paul
roots manuva
aesop rock
j-zone
mf-doom
kool keith
el-p

Digit · #10 (**permalink**) 05-31-2003, 01:00 AM

wtf.. jazz is lumped in with easy listening!!!?!?!?!??!

THAT IS THE BIGGEST INSULT TO QUALITY JAZZ MUSICIANS I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!!!!

u need to hear some good jazz ilicit.

some rap can be good, but u gotta get into the right frame of mind for it. as with nearly all things though... about 90% of it is crap.

i listen to primarily,
Prog rock and quality/classic rock
Techno - ambient and psychadelic. from trance to Drum & Bass. experimental to bizarre. NO HOUSE THOUGH... its quite uncreative and designed entirely for people mashed outta their brains.
Classical
Jazz
Ambient

illcid · #11 (**permalink**) 05-31-2003, 01:09 AM

damn, I just notied that, shit im sorry, I agree... give me a break, I was riped when I wrote this thread.

I love jazz, im the one that voted it in

Im sorry for that.

XXX STYLE XXX · #12 (**permalink**) 05-31-2003, 01:30 AM

Yeah man you should be sorry....And what the fuck is up with your little childish narrow mind.

See I could say your an ugly faggot and all ugly faggots suck but im not that low am I?[JUST AS WELL, CAUSE l WOULD HAVE DELETED IT. no personal attacks allowed.critter

] Its just like you saying I dont listen to rap so rap sucks....thats bullshit

Some rap is poetry, not some of the newer music rapping about Guns and Pussy but I guess thats music as well huh? Even if I dont listen to it.

I listen to whatever sounds good, and a lot of rap sounds good

Digit · #13 (**permalink**) 05-31-2003, 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by XXX STYLE XXX
Yeah man you should be sorry....And what the fuck is up with your little childish narrow mind.

See I could say your an ugly faggot and all ugly faggots suck but im not that low am I?[just as well ] Its just like you saying I dont listen to rap so rap sucks....thats bullshit

Some rap is poetry, not some of the newer music rapping about Guns and Pussy but I guess thats music as well huh? Even if I dont listen to it.

I listen to whatever sounds good, and a lot of rap sounds good

someone needs to smoke a bong and beat one of to release some of that anger. lol

illcid · #14 (**permalink**) 05-31-2003, 02:44 AM

yeah man, come on, you guys are really angry people. I was just stating my opinion on a msuic genre and damn, you guys are really need to love not hate. If you disagree, all you do is say it, dont act like im a faggot or somthing. Jesus.

Lets have some Peace

sensimil · #15 (**permalink**) 05-31-2003, 03:47 AM

View Poll Results: What do you listen to when your high?
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rap	39	42.86%
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clasical	2	2.20%
jazz/easy-listening	7	7.69%
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#1 (permalink) 05-30-2003, 04:31 AM
illcid Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 427	Rap sucks... Well, in my opinion I think rap sucks BALLS! I also think to rap has no talent at all. Not compared to someone that can jam on the guitar and sing all at the same time, beautifully with people actually playing instruments with hermonic lyrics, not raping about how phat you are....god...I hate that shit Rap is trendy music, thats all it is, your friends start to listen to it so you start listening to it, everyone listens to the same rapper as well. Alternative/rock/jazz/blues The real music that changed lives and the whole music in general. In the 1960's, was all about weed and the greatest music ever written and performed. Now, let me ask you this, was rap during those times? no sorry. I thinks there is a lot of people that can agree with me on al this.

#2 (permalink) 05-30-2003, 08:57 AM
smokin&tokin Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,838	well..... i like a little old skool rap, techno is tight, and i mostly listen to cold.... linkin park is ok too, and korn, ICP, pink floyd, marley........ mostly them....

#3 (permalink) 05-30-2003, 09:10 AM
chen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 292	"Rap is trendy music, thats all it is, your friends start to listen to it so you start listening to it, everyone listens to the same rapper as well. " thats cuz u are only exposed to the mainstream. its like if i took all of the rock bands on the radio/tv and said.... rock is just commercialized, mass produced pop aimed at suburban white kids. it takes no talent, no creativity, and the "music" they make is not even a product of their own minds. looking purely at what is "popular" and what sells records, it would be hard to disagree with most of that statement. u could find many exceptions, but for the majority that statement is still true. you have only seen one (ugly) side of hiphop and that's all ur opinion is based on. all genres of music have great artists. not all of the music made in the 60's can be considered art or even great music. but there were great musicians then, just as there are great musicians now in any genre of music. so you cant just look at one aspect of a genre, or an era and say "this is or is not music" and to definitively say that the 60's produced the greatest music ever written and performed is kinda funny. Last edited by chen; 05-30-2003 at 09:13 AM.

#4 (permalink) 05-30-2003, 09:41 AM
illcid Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 427	Ok, maybe I was thinking a little too opionated, I agree with what you said, I should have added a couple of words to some of my sentences, like "SOME of the greatest..." If you look at the talent side of music, most smart people will look at what is being played and sung in any kind of music. Most instruments takes years, and years, and years, of practice. Vocals are another thing to look at, while rap has guys coming from no experience at all, sitting down on a stool, and reading in fast sentences off a sheet of paper with lyics, while having prefab music playing in the backgroud. Hmmm, sounds kind of tough. In a lyrical sense, some rap does impress me, while MOST is what you explained that some rock can be as well. I will agree that all of mainstream music is nothing but a puppet show if you ask me. The true test is to look inside all your CD's at home and find one band that writes their own. You might not find a lot. Its really dumb to play and sing songs, with rich, detailed lyrics explaining somthing that never happened in their life. hmmm, sounds deep, but true. I will always thinks all trendy "shit" can really go through one ear and out the other, since it has no sugnificance to me. Like I always tell my friends. "Be a LEADER not a FOLLOWER" For all those young kids, that dont know what I mean, Dont try to custom a civic cause everyone in the US of A has one. If I see one more civic, I swear ill slash the tires. Or Prelude, or integra, or anyother rice burning, slow piece of shit. Wow, I should have put this on a different forum. sorry, I need to smoke some thai before bed, im getting heated about this. later.

#5 (permalink) 05-30-2003, 10:08 AM
Little Wing Old School Stoner Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,322	I myself am nto a fan of rap, but I must say, I don't mind what people listen to. I listen to what I enjoy, and let other people listewn to what they enjoy, and I respect that. Sure, a lot of it I think sucks, but if someone likes to listen to it... each to his own... __________________ "The years go fast, but the days go so slow"

#6 (permalink) 05-30-2003, 03:55 PM
charlie067 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 265	hey well i like al kinds of music personly i only liten to rap everynow and then but i dont think rap sucks theres all kinds of talent out there. i have a friend who is right into the freestyleing shit when he comes over i play guitar and he spits his shit cant say im hearing what hes saying kuz im so zoned into the guitar but when he plays his rap music it doesent bother me at all but yeah anyway i dont even know why im hear right now its 5;00am in the moring and i have to be in for work at 7am so um going to listen to little wing by hendrix and go to bed night all u stoned crazy blades

#7 (permalink) 05-30-2003, 06:10 PM
ubik Old School Stoner Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 593	and the same thread is on again. I don't understand why peole stick to the 60s all the time, yes there are some good records but mostly that music is very boring and there aren't that many differences amongst the bands. well if you like it like that and want to listen to that music then ok, but I personally prefer more futuristic view on music, no I'm not talking about just techno but in every area of music there are lot's of bands that do things differently and love to expand the way we understand music. I hate it when people come and say some stuff like "listen to this, this is so great and deep maaan" and then they put on velvet undergroung or pink floyd, yes maybe it was great when it came out and I do like to listen to some of that stuff but mostly all I can hear is just an rock band playing rock song and that isn't that deep. __________________ -Mankind surely does not represent an evolution toward a better or stronger or higher level, as progress is now understood.-

#8 (permalink) 05-30-2003, 10:08 PM
KraziHare Likes Carrots Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Somewhere... probably Posts: 2,448	real rap is poetry and I just want to mention that I have to look online and in shops for weeks to find some of the rap I listen to, if I listened to rap because it was popular why would I do that? one more thing; even if I did like rap because it's 'trendy' that's still not as shallow as going on marijuana forums to tell people that the music they love is trendy crap fuckin poser __________________ Nonfamiliarity makes you scared to see the beauty in front of your eyes, you're thinking narrowly. Everything is an unpredictable occurrence if you've experienced everything except the purpose.

#9 (permalink) 05-31-2003, 12:45 AM
D9_THC Old School Stoner Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Aldershot, Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,010	commercial rap for the most part sucks so much. and hey, i'm a rocker/goth type person if you want to sterotype me, but i love some non-commercial rap. Krazi Hare, you should look for an english rapper called Roots Manuva. well good. Illicid... fair play if you don't like rap. But don't be so bold as to tell people they're wrong for listening to it. maybe if you check out some of these guys you'll think differently. soul williams prince paul roots manuva aesop rock j-zone mf-doom kool keith el-p __________________ The anti-marijuana campaign is a cancerous tissue of lies, undermining law enforcement, aggravating the drug problem, depriving the sick of needed help, and suckering well-intentioned conservatives and countless fightened parents. -William F Buckley

#10 (permalink) 05-31-2003, 01:00 AM
Digit Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,829	wtf.. jazz is lumped in with easy listening!!!?!?!?!??! THAT IS THE BIGGEST INSULT TO QUALITY JAZZ MUSICIANS I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!!!! u need to hear some good jazz ilicit. some rap can be good, but u gotta get into the right frame of mind for it. as with nearly all things though... about 90% of it is crap. i listen to primarily, Prog rock and quality/classic rock Techno - ambient and psychadelic. from trance to Drum & Bass. experimental to bizarre. NO HOUSE THOUGH... its quite uncreative and designed entirely for people mashed outta their brains. Classical Jazz Ambient

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#11 (permalink) 05-31-2003, 01:09 AM
illcid Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 427	damn, I just notied that, shit im sorry, I agree... give me a break, I was riped when I wrote this thread. I love jazz, im the one that voted it in Im sorry for that.

#12 (permalink) 05-31-2003, 01:30 AM
XXX STYLE XXX Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 24	Yeah man you should be sorry....And what the fuck is up with your little childish narrow mind. See I could say your an ugly faggot and all ugly faggots suck but im not that low am I?[JUST AS WELL, CAUSE l WOULD HAVE DELETED IT. no personal attacks allowed.critter ] Its just like you saying I dont listen to rap so rap sucks....thats bullshit Some rap is poetry, not some of the newer music rapping about Guns and Pussy but I guess thats music as well huh? Even if I dont listen to it. I listen to whatever sounds good, and a lot of rap sounds good __________________ I LOOK BETTER THAN YOU DO I SMELL BETTER THAN YOU DO I SOUND BETTER THAN YOU DO I FUCK BETTER THAN YOU DO

#14 (permalink) 05-31-2003, 02:44 AM
illcid Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 427	yeah man, come on, you guys are really angry people. I was just stating my opinion on a msuic genre and damn, you guys are really need to love not hate. If you disagree, all you do is say it, dont act like im a faggot or somthing. Jesus. Lets have some Peace

#15 (permalink) 05-31-2003, 03:47 AM
sensimil Visit the World! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 2,941 miles from the Jersey Shore Posts: 7,521	Re: Rap sucks... __________________