Vaporizer Debate

[420TheCollector]

Skimp on the heatgun?

Like I said I'm planning on upgrading when I can, but it's not that big of a deal to me right now.


I'm vaporizing now instead of waiting for a fancy gun that I can buy with some tax return money or something later and have a heat gun now.


I could understand saying that if I wasn't planning on the new gun, but damn I'm going to have a left-over heat gun when I buy a new one. How is that skimping? LOL


I agree with the whip-style vapes having a learning curve; people always ask questions on how to use them when they first buy one.

But I must say I haven't seen many people pick up my heatgun and bong and hit it right the first time. Usually they don't get that it takes much longer to get a hit, or they can't inhale for long enough. Also people are kinda rough with putting the gun up to the glass slide sometimes; but nobody has broke it yet.

[mmkay]

having a volcano is like owning a private jet...


everthing else is like a car...


THe volcano is of ultimate luxury...


it makes marijuana everything that it should be.....


when i use a volcano is it like drinking wine... I sip on my herbs from the bag... no rush... just rest and relaxation as i get nearly 100% thc from my herbs and nothing else.

[420TheCollector]

^Damn man, you should sponsor the Volcano! After reading that- even I want to buy one!


Seriously though I really want to try a Volcano first-hand. I've tried a bag-system before (a VooDoo) and it wasn't to my liking. However everyone I've talked to says the Volcano is much different.

I think this Christmas my brother is going to get a Volcano and I'll be getting a SuperVapezilla. Then I'll be able to truly evaluate the best of the best of both areas.

[Ars moriendi]

Originally Posted by mmkay

having a volcano is like owning a private jet...


everthing else is like a car...


THe volcano is of ultimate luxury...


it makes marijuana everything that it should be.....


when i use a volcano is it like drinking wine... I sip on my herbs from the bag... no rush... just rest and relaxation as i get nearly 100% thc from my herbs and nothing else.

Dude it's a ripoff just like roor

you sound like the type of moron who would buy blose audio gear cuz the purdy pictures in time tell you it's what all the rich people use

roor is just glass the volcano costs around 50 bucks to produce give or take and bose audio used paper cones and foam surrounds... yeah I'll pass as a 'rich person' and go buy some quality gear

420 - You'll see what I mean lol the wagner is a bit too cheap esp. when the price is healthy lungs

it's about how the heatgun handles drastic changes in air movement thats all the better ones have temp control in all cases including that so any project turns out good from welding with plastic to vapping herbs (not with the same heatgun! lol)

PM me if you wanna discuss vap designs or whatever

[420TheCollector]

Originally Posted by Ars moriendi

420 - You'll see what I mean lol the wagner is a bit too cheap esp. when the price is healthy lungs

it's about how the heatgun handles drastic changes in air movement thats all the better ones have temp control in all cases including that so any project turns out good from welding with plastic to vapping herbs (not with the same heatgun! lol)

PM me if you wanna discuss vap designs or whatever

Oh I know I'll see what you mean man! I can't wait to own a top-of-the-line Steinel heat gun! It's just right now, the Wagner will have to do.

[Ars moriendi]

the kits from stienel can be had for like 180

basically this abs uncrushable case with the heatgun and a bunch of tips all sorts of plastic welding rod (for those diy bong days)

[mmkay]

Originally Posted by Ars moriendi

Dude it's a ripoff just like roor

you sound like the type of moron who would buy blose audio gear cuz the purdy pictures in time tell you it's what all the rich people use

roor is just glass the volcano costs around 50 bucks to produce give or take and bose audio used paper cones and foam surrounds... yeah I'll pass as a 'rich person' and go buy some quality gear

420 - You'll see what I mean lol the wagner is a bit too cheap esp. when the price is healthy lungs

it's about how the heatgun handles drastic changes in air movement thats all the better ones have temp control in all cases including that so any project turns out good from welding with plastic to vapping herbs (not with the same heatgun! lol)

PM me if you wanna discuss vap designs or whatever

you get everything you pay for...


your one hell of a sucka if you fo around throwing judgements every which way.

i have no issues with the heat guns or other vapesz they are all very nice.

but the volcano is the best by far... hands down

[PropheCy604]

Hi guys!

Good debate here!

I'M new to the vaporizer world and I would like to have some link to them. I'm searching for the best cheap vaporizer! Vaporwarez 3g seems to be good from what I read here. Any price of it?

[Tillianne]

Vapor Warez is basically the same unit as the Vapor Brothers. However, the Vapor Warez has a ceramic heating element.

The ceramic heating element is more durable, but there has been some debate about health concerns with it. I don't know what's up with that.

I have a Vapor Brothers, and was going to get another, just as a backup, because it's my favorite vaporizer. I considered getting the Vapor Warez until I heard about the health concerns.

Not sure what to do now.

I will say the whip based vaporizers are the best units for a beginner, and they are reasonable in price.

I believe both the Vaper Brothers and Vapor Warez can be obtained off ebay for 120.00 or less.

[Ars moriendi]

Originally Posted by mmkay

you get everything you pay for...


your one hell of a sucka if you fo around throwing judgements every which way.

i have no issues with the heat guns or other vapesz they are all very nice.

but the volcano is the best by far... hands down

hardly the best...its all hype dude

take yours apart and tell me that pile of aluminum is worth half a g

fact is it's not and never has been

S&B sure as hell found a group of suckers to shill a crappy device too thats for sure

you could make your own cano easy as fuck

block of machined aluminum heat and a bellows...not complex not new and certinly not some awesome german invention these two try to pass it off as

it can't even vap salvia lol

til - I never had a vb but the 3g wasn't half bad...not worth 150 bucks for a box of tiki wood a vial with a ground glass joint fused to the end and a ceramic soldering iron element but it works

[TheMainEvent]

http://www.gotvape.com/store/pure_vaporizer.html

I picked up one of these a few days ago and am just starting to get the hang of this thing because its so much different from a pipe/bong/joint. Any tips from the more experienced vape users would be greatly appreciated.

And whats the deal on the whole ceramic health concern thing? I bought this vaporizer for a few reasons, one of them being improved lungs/health, and it would be pretty useless if the ceramic turned out to be bad for you.

[Shouse1018]

All the weeds that's been floating around here has tasted pretty bad. I think the local

growers aren't flushing before harvesting. I put some nugz in my Voodoo and it was

really and unpleasant taste. Also I tried some Mystic Potion discs for the Voodoo,

WTF!!!!!!!!!! Shit was nasty as hell! IT CONTAINED CATNIP, lol.

Voodoo is great though. I haven't had a prob with it. Heats up super quick. 200 bones and only had to drive 5 miles. digital temp

[Ars moriendi]

Originally Posted by TheMainEvent

http://www.gotvape.com/store/pure_vaporizer.html

I picked up one of these a few days ago and am just starting to get the hang of this thing because its so much different from a pipe/bong/joint. Any tips from the more experienced vape users would be greatly appreciated.

And whats the deal on the whole ceramic health concern thing? I bought this vaporizer for a few reasons, one of them being improved lungs/health, and it would be pretty useless if the ceramic turned out to be bad for you.

I own one of those

the element died on it and my bud handed it over as junk

anywho the 'ceramic' element it boasts is a crock of shit it's basically the biz end of a cheapo 7 buck radioshack soldering iron which is nothing more then a rolled tube of metal a screw tip and a roll of mica wrapped with nichrome wire

true ceramic soldering irons are a sheet of ceramic with a circuit board of sorts applied and rolled under high heat leaving you with the same coil like heating bit encased in ceramic

return that hunk of junk and make your own with replacement ceramic tips from any eletronics place or get the 3g one and stock up on replacement ceamic iron tips from said eletronics place

far as tips go draw slow inhale like you would from a bong but very very slow till you get an iea of how fast or slow you like getting vapor as well as how fast or slow effects taste

[mmkay]

vas... your a tool...

the fact is that it was invented by a team of germans as the best way to adminster thc to medical marijuana study patients...

the fact is... the volcano catches and uses most thc more effciently then a heat gun...

the fact is... the bag system is unbelivably solid... and while you sitting around pointing your little gun every which way im leaning back in my chair sippin vapor.

the fact is... don't disrespect my opinion just because yours differs it is straight up shady...



did you know that volcanos just opened afactory in oakland??? price will go down.. right now that hefty price tag is vor research and development.


can't even vape salvia??? well you can vape nicotine... im not a tabac smoker myself but those who are can really save a lung... and who wants to use a heat gun on tabac?



don't be a hack... you evil scoundral

[TheColonel]

no need for name calling^

please provide references to these "facts" that you are posting.

edit: ill just take care of this.

1. The fact that it was made by germans as the best way to administer THC doesnt make it the best. I'm not sure how this helps your argument. Germans can make crap just as easily as anyone else. Ever owned a volkswagen?

2. please show me a study that shows a volcano vs. a heat gun vaporizer. You wont. None have been done. So your claim that it "catches and uses most thc more efficiently than a heat gun" is out the window.

3. the "solid bag system" you're referring to is nothing more than a turkey roasting bag. They can just as easily be adapted to a heat gun cheaply and effectively.

The FACT of the matter is that one can build a vape as good if not better than the volcano for less than half the price.

Your opinion is your opinion, so think what you want, but dont start attacking ARS because he's giving you the truth. Ars has forgotten more than you'll ever know about vaporizing. Sorry if its not what you want to hear.