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Old 10-15-2004, 01:26 PM
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Sick True marijuana facts

I'm getting sick and tired of people telling me that herb is bad for your health. Last week someone someone was convinced that 1 joint equals 7 cigarettes because she heard from someone that studies medicine. Also stuff like you're gonna be a junkie, cokehead, etc. Well, I wanna hear some TRUE marijuana facts. Links to the original data will be very good too.
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I'm getting sick and tired of people telling me that herb is bad for your health. Last week someone someone was convinced that 1 joint equals 7 cigarettes because she heard from someone that studies medicine. Also stuff like you're gonna be a junkie, cokehead, etc. Well, I wanna hear some TRUE marijuana facts. Links to the original data will be very good too.
Well simply tell that bitch this..."How in the fuck can marijuana be worse for you then cigarettes? Cigs have tar, nicoret, and all that shit ADDED to them.. So don't give me that shit, go fuck yourself, its like saying milk is bad for your bones ... Weed is good for your mind and eyes.. bitch.. go sit on a golf club!"
 
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lets humor the idiots, lets say one joint has the same amount of carcinogens and bad health thingy-ma-bobbers as 10 cigs..

Who the hell smokes 10 joints? now, someone who's been smoking for a few years..ever meet one that can't down a pack or two a day?
 
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Old 10-16-2004, 05:31 PM
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I remember in elementary school they (D.A.R.E.) told us that a joint did the equivalent damage of 50 cigarettes. Ive seen read tons of stuff on the cancer sticks. There is no fuckin way! Its sad they need to resort to lies.
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yea, and they use the esscuse that its also cause ciggs have filters, screw that. I bet one unfiltered cig is as bad or worse than a joint. Dosnt ciggs have like rat poisen and finger nail polish remover chemicals in them? theres none of that in pot. Plus , i herd that niccotine was one of the most addictive drugs out there, up there with heroin and crack, i cantt see how but i guess its possible. And i also have herd the whole 1 joint equals 7 cigs, F$$* that.
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Old 10-18-2004, 07:39 PM
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Study shows...

How's this?
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SUBSTANCE RELATED DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES ANNUALLY
Tobacco: estimate 400,000

Estimated 419,000 deaths in 1996, from CANCER FACTS AND FIGURES factsheet from American Cancer Society.

Also estimated 500,000 deaths in Europe. http://www.ash.org.uk/html/factsheets.php

Alcohol: estimate 110,000

110,640 in 1996 estimate from the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (total U.S. alcohol-related deaths have averaged between 103-111,000 per year since 1979).

Prescription drugs: estimate 100,000

106,000 estimate, from a study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, April 1998. Excerpt from study::

A new analysis by researchers at the University of Toronto, who examined 39 studies, estimated that an average of 106,000 deaths at U.S. hospitals in 1994 were due to bad reactions to drugs. "Serious adverse drug reactions are frequent ... more so than generally recognized," the researchers said. "Fatal adverse drug reactions appear to be between the fourth and sixth leading cause of death."

Also, 100,000 estimate from: TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING? DOCTOR CHALLENGES DRUG MANUAL, published October 12, 1999, New York Times. Author: Denise Grady. Excerpt from story:

But the doses recommended in the P.D.R. may be too high for many people and may cause adverse reactions, ranging from dizziness and nausea all the way to death, according to an article published last month in the journal Postgraduate Medicine. He said his findings helped explain a study published last year by other researchers, who reported that drug reactions in hospitals were among the nation's leading causes of death, killing more than 100,000 Americans a year. The deaths that the team studied were not due to medication errors by doctors or patients; they occurred in people taking doses thought to be correct.

Suicide: estimate 30,000

30,903 total number of U.S. deaths by suicide in 1996, American
Association of Suicidology (AAS)

30,575 total number of U.S. deaths by suicide in 1998, (AAS)

Murder: estimate 15,000

FBI 1999 Uniform Crime Report shows a downward trend in total annual murders, from 21,597 in 1995 to 15,533 in 1999.

Aspirin: new estimate 7,600

GI complications caused by NSAIDs lead to approximately 76,000 hospitalizations and 7,600 deaths annually -- a mortality rate comparable to that of asthma, cervical cancer or melanoma (skin cancer). References:

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention/National Center for Health Statistics (1,2) 1. Fries JF. NSAID Gastropathy:

The Second Most Deadly Rheumatic Disease? Epidemiology and Risk Appraisal. Journal of Rheumatology. 1991; 18 (suppl 28): 6. 2. Anderson RN et al.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention/National Center for Health Statistics Report of Final Mortality Statistics, 1995. Monthly Vital Statistics Report. 1997; 145 (11)(suppl 2).

Marijuana: estimate 0

No information about marijuana-related deaths exists on the Website of the National Institute of Drug Abuse.

There is no known case of a physiologically-induced "marijuana fatality" in the medical record.

Medical Marijuana is "...one of the safest therapeutically- active substances known to man."

The Honorable Francis Young
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Drug Enforcement Agency - 1989
 
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i remember hearing that on one of those stupid ass "truth" commercials
 
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go out to your nearest video rental place and get "ron mann's grass"
it is very educational
 
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the episode of Penn&Teller BULLSHIT on the war on drugs
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yea, and they use the esscuse that its also cause ciggs have filters, screw that. I bet one unfiltered cig is as bad or worse than a joint. Dosnt ciggs have like rat poisen and finger nail polish remover chemicals in them? theres none of that in pot. Plus , i herd that niccotine was one of the most addictive drugs out there, up there with heroin and crack, i cantt see how but i guess its possible. And i also have herd the whole 1 joint equals 7 cigs, F$$* that.
the numbers i always heard was one joint equals four cigarettes. yes, nicotine is highly addictive. I think the amount it takes is 5mg a day (about 5 cigarettes). Also, the main "cancer" ingredient in cigarettes is the paper, if you look closely at it, you will see horizontal lines running around it. These are usually nylon to keep the paper from ripping while its being whipped through the rolling machines.
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go out to your nearest video rental place and get "ron mann's grass"
it is very educational

yep, i advise this too since so many people seem incapable of doing even the most basic of investigative journalism themselves, you all might as well just go watch it on a video. *

in which case i'd also advise watching "truth and lies about 9-11"
heh, woops, wrong forum section.

but seriously, if watching the video is too much, just try doing a search for cannabis research. then check who they are, who funds them, and why they did the study. these i find are usually the best pointers to how impartial they are likely to be, and impartiality is required for any scientific backing to health claims. if you come across something that calls itself marijuana research, one might wish to be a little more skeptical as that is not the correct scientific name. its little clues like that which sometimes help. search engines, search engines, search engines. i really wish i didnt have to say it three times, but there you go. use any engine of preference to find independant proof. not affiliated with money, only affiliated with finding the truth, which is after all what you're looking for. ... what... you're still reading this!? you should have gone to read up on it already!

* tippin my hat for woody harrleson doing his bit again his voice carries well as a narrator/voice over. maybe i just look in the wrong places, but sometimes i think he's a little more quiet on the topic than he could be.
 
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