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Old 07-06-2009, 03:58 AM
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Re: Why is weed some kind of wonderdrug?

Yeah, as carvershores said, you're putting words in our mouths.
 
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Old 07-06-2009, 04:58 AM
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Re: Why is weed some kind of wonderdrug?

Hey Dale.

It eliminates my symptoms completely. I live in a state that is not green. My doctors support my cannabis use.


We tried combinations of over 16 different drugs to control my symptoms and 9 different combinations of anti-seizure medications.

NONE worked on their own. I spent 3 months in the hospital as a result of one prescription and I have permanent damage. I received a settlement 3 years ago but I still have to live with this pain.


When I hear people say it's masking pain or your just high i get filled with rage.

I smoke 1 small hit in the am, and one in the pm. If, and only if, I feel as though i'm going into seizure, OR i get the hot flashes, I take one more hit.


If i run out of marijuana i regress right back to being sick and completely unproductive. I have seizures(maybe break a bone). Sweat constantly and no sleep from adrenaline dumps.


I am living proof. My doctors explain to me that our bodies produce cannabinoids naturally to regulate autonomic and metabolic systems.

They tell me medical science does not understand much about the body or how medicines interact. They just know it makes sense that since your body produces this naturally, Cannabis smoking will certainly have some kind of effect. And a NATURAL EFFECT.


Lets not sit on here and argue. I have been a lab rat for going on 4 years now.


Harvard medical school has done some great research in medcinal marijuana and it's uses. Some of that research may provide the proof you feel you need other than just taking someones word for it.
 
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:05 AM
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Re: Why is weed some kind of wonderdrug?

I don't know what else to say. I know people who have cannabis cards for completely bogus ailments. They fuck it up for the rest of us who are sick.

It should be legal anyway. No question there. But for medicinal purposes it seems kind of silly to tell a chemo patient dieing on their death bed that they can't have the medicine that makes them feel ok. Instead they pump em with opiates that absorb right into the bone and degrade the patients health even further.


Cancer patients claim it helps with the nausea they experience from chemo, not the actual curing of the disease.

It slows the adrenaline production in my body which is abundant and debilitating.


The problem with medical marijuana is medical companies understand they will lose billions. Not all their biz, obviously not. But things like Lunesta and Ambien Dramamine Depakote and beta blockers. Billions. It's in their best interest not to release a cure all drug that can be grown in a backyard.
 
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:50 AM
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Thanks, Granny, for your seemingly infinite wisdom of the good herb.
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Re: Why is weed some kind of wonderdrug?

Ask any person here with crohns disease if weed is a medicine. Like me for example..

Cannabis is the greatest medicine in the world.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:27 AM
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Re: Why is weed some kind of wonderdrug?

cavershores,


there isn't empirical data to prove either way. But there is an awful lot of research done by universities and private institutions that back our claims. And this is unbiased non-government data.


And how much of this is certain anyway. How does a doctor know of a person feels more or less pain?

We understand how opiates work. That's a simple process. Doctors don't understand the thousands of proteins our hypothalamus produces. Some of which are copies of substances in Cannabis.... go figure eh?
 
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Re: Why is weed some kind of wonderdrug?

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Yeah, as carvershores said, you're putting words in our mouths.
So you have a fellow zombie with you? And it seems the zombie is the only one who agrees with you?

As Dr. Robert Melameade puts it, "Cannabis makes everything human, a little more human. It makes the body's natural capacity to heal, simply work better."

Big Pharma won't do that for you. They'll kill your kids though!
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Kentucky officials see an ‘epidemic’; officials say drugs coming from Florida

MOREHEAD, Ky. — Late in the morning last New Year's Day, Sam and Lynn Kissick received a devastating phone call that would tear their lives apart. The caller informed them their 22-year-old daughter, Savannah, was being rushed by ambulance to the St. Claire Regional Medical Center in Morehead, Ky. She had long battled drug addiction, but it looked like this time, Savannah had overdosed on a combination of painkillers and sedatives while celebrating New Year's Eve.



After racing to the emergency room to be by Savannah's side, her parents were met by a physician with grim news. "I'm sorry, Mr. And Mrs. Kissick, but she didn't make it," he said


Savannah had just become the latest fatality linked to prescription drug abuse, a fast-growing problem that killed more than 8,500 Americans in 2005, according to the latest available statistics from the Office of National Drug Control Policy.
8,500 legal drug deaths, in one country, in one year? And this is the Industry the OP defends!

Cannabis is Medi-Sane, not medi-sin.

The Swine flu has a long way to go before it kills 8,500 people in a year!

It is highly possible that the Swine Flu is a lab creation of Big Pharma.

Cannabis will never do that.
 
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So you have a fellow zombie with you? And it seems the zombie is the only one who agrees with you?
So if I'm a zombie for making a statement, then what does that make you and all of the other idiots in here who seem to have a problem with reading comprehension?


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As Dr. Robert Melameade puts it, "Cannabis makes everything human, a little more human. It makes the body's natural capacity to heal, simply work better."
Right, so because one doctor sais that cannabis makes humans more "human"(kind of an oxymoron eh?), then that automatically makes me and dale zombies because we don't believe that cannabis is a miracle drug that cures all medical conditions? The lack of logic in that argument makes it unworthy of my time to try and debunk it...


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Big Pharma won't do that for you. They'll kill your kids though!
8,500 legal drug deaths, in one country, in one year? And this is the Industry the OP defends!
Again with the reading comprehension thing... I don't believe anyone here has tried to defend any pharma companys. Furthermore, it is blatantly ignorant of you to assume that all pharmacueticals are bad for you and will kill you. Legal drug deaths also do nothing to support your claim since a majority of those deaths were most likely self induced(pharmacueticals are used recreationally too). Oh and you can also die from drinking too much water, so according to your logic we should stop drinking water and only smoke cannabis since it makes us more "human".

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It is highly possible that the Swine Flu is a lab creation of Big Pharma.
This blatant speculation is not even worth my time to address.


There seems to be a serious problem in this thread with reading comprehension so this is where I will end my discussion.

Oh and let me reiterate what us zombies are trying to say(pay close attention to the words).
*Cannabis has some very interesting properties(nobody has denied this).
**Cannabis has shown to be benificial to a number of different medical conditions(nobody is denying this either).
***Some studies have shown that cannabis MAY(key word here) have the potential to help cancer patients(cancer is a very broad term and should not be taken lightly) .Cannabis will most likely NOT "cure" cancer although it will certainly help alleviate some of the sympoms.
****Cannabis is NOT some "miracle" plant that cures ALL(or most) medical conditions.
 
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Ask any person here with crohns disease if weed is a medicine. Like me for example..

Cannabis is the greatest medicine in the world.
My dad has chrons disease and he believes cannabis could benefit him greatly. He doesn't want to use it though cause it's illegal. I'm sure he would use it if it was legalized.
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Re: Why is weed some kind of wonderdrug?

Cannabis is a wonder drug because it has never killed anyone.

Pharmaceuticals kill people every day.

The only way cannabis could kill you is if a truckload were dumped on ya, and ya suffocated.


The only abuse of cannabis, I see, is when the DEA damages the plants.
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Re: Why is weed some kind of wonder-drug?

Michel Jackson would still be living had he turned to cannabis to solve his sleep problems.

One more point to Dale - I consume vast amounts of cannabis daily as it is my only medicine for pain control. I do not get high any more. Once your CB1 receptors are full - you do not get higher. After a while doing so - you acclimate to the cannabis and no longer get high - just living a more comfortable life.

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