Military + Marijuana

[Peppie]

If you're going into the armed services and you need a medical marijuana card for your ailment, that won't look good.

Most recruiters would see that and probably think you have Cancer and therefore not let you join up.

They piss test like crazy too.

[kyle187]

Originally Posted by T-Rex Go RAWR

I am on the verge of joining the military(navy or marines) and you don't join just to go fight. Most people join the military for the experience, great opportunities and the fucking AWESOME benefits. If i were to join the military and go to school while enlisted they pay for ALL of the schooling + you get your salary + all medical/dental and that shit is covered + if you live off base you get X amount of dollars per month. The military is a fucking GREAT opportunity.

Also if you join it's not 100% you are going to fight, i depends on the branch and your job.

Exactly. There is a lot of different jobs in different branches of military, its not all infantry. I personally think joining the military is a amazing decision. I'm thinking of going to the airforce, and for me thats a great choice, i just graduated high school, i didn't get grades to go to college, i dont have a job and i live in the state with the highest uneploment rate, its really hard to get a job over here. Good thing about the military is thell take (almost) everyone so i won't have to work at wendys, and ontop of that i get the experience of a liftime, and all of those benifits.

[Ceran Wrap]

Originally Posted by rickyjoepr

no u cant. My paps was in for 23 years. You cant smoke or do any drugs that you are not prescribed too...........PERIOD, including marijuana. You see, if you go tellling them you have insomnia they will kick you out, you cant even have any of that. It dont matter if you are in cali, youll get dishonorably discharged and a bit of jailtime.

You can smoke tobacco all you want. my paps was in for 27 years. deployed 4 times.

[Ceran Wrap]

Originally Posted by pocket biscuits

^^ so following orders to shoot people you've never met is right?
that's why I'm never joining.

And get shot at by people you've never met*
You don't just mercilessly kill and mission complete. Your complete ignorant about the war.

[beamish]

Originally Posted by kyle187

Exactly. There is a lot of different jobs in different branches of military, its not all infantry. I personally think joining the military is a amazing decision. I'm thinking of going to the airforce, and for me thats a great choice, i just graduated high school, i didn't get grades to go to college, i dont have a job and i live in the state with the highest uneploment rate, its really hard to get a job over here. Good thing about the military is thell take (almost) everyone so i won't have to work at wendys, and ontop of that i get the experience of a liftime, and all of those benifits.

lol air force probably wont take you then. hate to burst your bubble, they have the highest retention rate of all services, and thus have the most stringent recruitment requirements. they get pretty much everyone applying for them too, so they only take the best.

[herbaltoker2]

Originally Posted by Ceran Wrap

And get shot at by people you've never met*
You don't just mercilessly kill and mission complete. Your complete ignorant about the war.

The ultimate goal is to usurp the enemies territory and claim victory by bringing down the opposing force, and of course there is plenty of killing along the way in achieving this goal, it wouldn't be a war if there was no killing, dodging the issue isn't something you should do.

[Weed.Wacker]

Hooka, first of all, I'd like to say I'm sorry for your loss. Also I'd like to thank everyone for the info they posted.


I appreciate you guy's concern about mine, or anybody else's decision to join. I am well aware of the dangers and problems of joining. Also I am aware that theres a part of the U.S. government that is the bitch of global and munition corporations. I know the Iraq War is a bullshit war over oil and I know almost every war or conflict after WWII is most likely bullshit or started because of lies. The Vietnam war started because our ships were placed in a way near Vietnam to provoke getting shot at. I know that our government supported elements in the South America for the sake of fruit industries. I know which wars are fought for corporations and business.

The U.S. is not perfect, but I do feel that it is the best place to live. The only reason why my family is alive is because of the U.S. military. My family were from South Vietnam and my grandpa was a spy and he found many Vietcong people took them into custody. After the Tet Offensive when the U.S. was pulling out, my grandpa just happened to be fishing on his boat and saw the U.S. ships leaving, he brought his family to the U.S. ships and they were willing to take him and his family to safety. Now here I am today, if that never happened I would never have existed. I know the U.S. provoked North Vietnam to fire at their ships so they can start the war with a good excuse and I know how the war was filled with BS and lies. But the thing is, the South Vietnamese did not want to live under Communist oppression, its better to live in a democracy then a under communist oppression. The U.S. helped South Vietnam and they helped fight the Communists. Not all wars are perfect, and sure the U.S. lost. But what if they dident? Vietnam would of been a much better place right now. The Vietnamese people today are being fucked over by their government. Its not fun when a police officer places a gun in your house, then accuses you of illegal owner ship and faking a plot that involved you using it against the government. Then your put in jail or executed, not fun at all. Also the U.S. entered also because they wanted to stop the spread of Communism, if we just let it spread, it would of soon reached our soil too. Think about it.

My point being, I know wars are sometimes started or helped started by people in our government who are rich greedy bastards. But that dosent make the individual people serving bad or for stupid reasons. The Iraq War is taking up precious lives of brave Americans and other coalition forces. I feel that the conflict in Afghanistan is the most important. Sure, munitions contracts are milking off the conflict, but we are helping the Iraqi people. The previous government in Afganistan that we all know as the Taliban is pretty fucked up and tortures people. I don't see why its okay to let a nation were they allow people to get stoned to death as entertainment for a half-time show during a soccer game just because the two people were caught together before they were married. Different culture? Sure, but stoning them to death does not make any sense. Our current conflict there is going to end stupid shit like that, I don't think its right to kick back while people are being put to death by a government run by men with guns riding along toyota pickup trucks. Also, there is genocide there, the taliban thinks they could just ride along and enslave Asian people and execute them as they please. Our current mission there will stop all that.

Stopping genocide is always a good reason to start a war, all wars fought to stop genocide is always logical. Would you like it if a mob armed with knives and guns decided to roll unto your house, rape you and your family, and chop off body parts as they please and torture you, and then kill you?

The only reason why our nation is so safe is because of the military, the only reason we are not invaded is because of the military. If we had no people serving, another nation can just roll around into ours and just start pushing people around. Would you like to live under a Soviet or Chinese dictatorship? I'm not a big fan of genocide and slave labor happening in our country. Yes, we have been fighting bs wars from time to time. But people seem to forget that the U.S. ENDED the Soviet Union's communist regime. If it still existed, our country would still be under threat of invasion or large scale attack. Imagine if most of world was under Soviet rule, the next step would be just to invade the U.S. As we all know, communism is great on paper but it fails the real world.

America may be a shitty place, but it sure as hell is better place to live then many other countries. That is why we are all here. To serve and protect it, AND getting paid for it, is a pretty good offer. Also, were not forced to join. We should be proud of that.

A lot of U.S. forces are being routed to serve in Afghanistan now, I am willing to serve there because I believe the war there is right.

I have a lot of friends in the military and they were bored as fuck when they serve, but they also had the times of their lives too. Now they can afford to study, and with what they learned in the military they have much better career opportinitues. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, the most retardedly expensive place in the U.S. to live in, even houses in the ghetto cost like $700,000. While the rest of the U.S. has huge homes in decent neighborhoods for like $250,000. This place is fucking expensive to live in, my family dosent have a lot of money, my dad is not supporting me when it comes to college money and my mom is not really making a lot. Yes I do have a lot of options aside from the military, heck my mom works for Financial Aid. But I choose to serve in the military, with the career and money opportinuties, I think its a good choice. I am well aware of my plan to join the military may backfire, sure I may lose a limb, sure I might die. But you know, life's full of risks and I feel okay with taking this one.

Okay well shit load of typing I know. But with that stuff aside, I never meant this thread to be political debate. I was only wondering about ownership of a card and being able to be enlisted. Thats all I wanted to know, and thank you for the info. I'll probably get a card after my military service.

[skeeter1620]

to the OP , you will not be able to smoke and be in any military branch of service PERIOD... to all of the other posters , this is my 2nd trip around in the military and yes im getting out again but the soldiers sailors marines and air men in this country are who give you the rights and protect the rights for you to sit on this forum and write what ever you please. im not ignorant to the fact that this war is not win win situation and I dont believe the U.S should be the worlds police man but if you take a real good hard look at most of the men and women in the armed services, over half use to smoke weed and cant wait till the day they get out to do so again. Basiclly what im saying is dont judge a book "people in the military" by the stigma that others have created because most of the ones that sit and talk all of there theory's have no real fuckin clue

[Nah, Im Shwayze]

Originally Posted by tacomadness

Sorry if I was mistaken; I was just pretty sure I had seen that one can not work for the federal government if they possess a medical marijuana card as it's legal by state but not federally.

Yeah youd have to join the California Army for it to be ok. good luck.

Seriously though Ive met people who smoke regularly in the military. Just know that you have to spend alot of money on those 24 hour cleansing drinks lol. If one person on a base is tested positive they test the whole base. So be prepared.

[Weed.Wacker]

Originally Posted by Nah, Im Shwayze

Yeah youd have to join the California Army for it to be ok. good luck.

Seriously though Ive met people who smoke regularly in the military. Just know that you have to spend alot of money on those 24 hour cleansing drinks lol. If one person on a base is tested positive they test the whole base. So be prepared.

Woah damn thats intense. I only plan on smoking when I am off duty and of course when they are not drug testing. I remember they had drug testing on the day of the super bowl my friend told me about it, the drug test center had no tv. You can tell what kind of riot that was lol!

[skeeter1620]

Originally Posted by Nah, Im Shwayze

Yeah youd have to join the California Army for it to be ok. good luck.

Seriously though Ive met people who smoke regularly in the military. Just know that you have to spend alot of money on those 24 hour cleansing drinks lol. If one person on a base is tested positive they test the whole base. So be prepared.

Seriously this is one of the dumbest things ive ever read. There is no I REPEAT NO difference between the California National Guard and the rest of the Armed services when it comes to drug testing there is a zero tolerance approach to any illegal substance PERIOD ,,,, there is no way to get around drug tests cause the pick of who has to be test is completly random and picked by a computer believe me when i tell you this as I am a UPL admin for my unit, UPL is the drug tester , SO YES I DO KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!

[WildWill]

Skeeter, don't sweat it, it's a message board - people are really dense sometimes.

But I'll give you plus rep for having the right informaiton.

[fourty47]

Originally Posted by herbaltoker2

I really do feel bad for you man, and don't get me wrong, your a brave motherfucker but that still doesn't make war/killing right. You are placed on this planet to live a happy life and prosper without interference from any other variable that might otherwise terminate your life. I hate to break it to you but you do not know the true meaning of life, you are supposed to be happy, enjoy life while you can and try and live your longest without being in pain or suffering.

The military is a hoax, many of our wars are actually prompted by the US government, they make money off the wars via the arms trade, they are happy to declare war on anyone (ever noticed we never get invaded but we invade places like Iraq and Afghanistan, doesn't sound like defense to me.) Anyway, your being sent out there to fight and put your LIFE(the most valuable thing you'll ever have) in danger for a bunch of greedy, rich politicians all sitting around laughing and joking around with each other, then they go to their huge billion dollar houses, watch some TV, then go to sleep peacefully, if you seriously think any of these politicians who sent you in give a shit about you and your life you are sadly mistaken.

You are not defending your country, you are being manipulated into thinking the military is honorable just so a few suits can grab their big paychecks at the end of the day, they don't care about you, and you will never meet them. You are being sent in to KILL the lives of other human beings that are MUCH less fortunate than you, most are starving or in pain, and you come over there and blast them in the head, it is WRONG and I will never have a part of ANY killing unless it is for self defense. Your a toy, you are a puppet for the men behind the curtain, I beg you to reconsider, I'd hate to see you die for something that isn't a good cause, you really do need to think about this before it's too late, live YOUR life, not sacrifice it for somebody who doesn't give a shit about you, not to mention murdering other people and ruining their families lives as well as theirs. The military is made out to be so honorable but it's just a lie, it is not honorable to kill without questioning why you are killing, little do you know these people who sent you out there don't give a rats ass what happens.

You think that living life is about honor and doing "hard work", You sacrifice your own happiness and fulfilling life just so you can maintain a sense of false honor by thinking your tough for having to deal with traumatic events, it's pointless.

Just my .02 cents, it may seem aggressive but I don't intend this post as a flame, I respect you and all your decision but I just hope someday you'll make the right one.

While that's the optimistic way of looking at things, unfortunately that's not how "life is."

There's many reasons and excuses for what life should be, but in reality, life is complex. People will go through so many different situations that thinking that life is to be "happy" is naive. There's going to be times where one will not be happy. There's going to be times when one is having the best time of their lives.

To me, life is about exploration and being able to learn from mistakes. Pain to me is a part of life, because pain is another way of learning about things.

Pain reminds you of mistakes as well as pleasure (like being a boxer).

For people who decide to join the military, that's their decision. It's pretty dumb to be someone else and criticize their position about life because EVERYONE would agree that no one wants to be told how to live their life, so why do the same?

It may be worthless to some... some may see it as pointless. But some will see them as a group of people who protects this country... and in reality, people get fucked over.

There has to be balance between being passive and pro-active about things like national security. Lots of people want to just advocate neutrality (and history has shown that it CAN be done), but terrorists out there don't necessarily function on our schedule.

[ienjoybud]

Im not criticizing the soldiers at all. Just the war. those who believe us being in iraq and the middleeast in general is making us safer, your not very smart or your ignorant. It actually makes us LESS safe. as every day we are in there occupying countries, destroying homes, killing civilians and terrorists (known as freedom fighters to them), more of these people join the fight against us, especially like brothers and sons of people that have died because of us.

[skeeter1620]

Originally Posted by WildWill

Skeeter, don't sweat it, it's a message board - people are really dense sometimes.

But I'll give you plus rep for having the right informaiton.

IM not sweating it I just dont someone that is concidering joining the military to have the wrong idea or misconception of how the military works cause all that is really goin to happen is people will get in and end up in alot of trouble. But as some say do what you can afford, thats why im waiting till im out to take a toke or two........ hundred and thanks for the rep man