Military + Marijuana

[wolv2076]

I'm currently on active duty. I joined the site because my mom has medical problems that can benefit from marijuana and I have been learning everything I can about it. There is no way you are going to be in the military and smoke weed. When you go to MEPs you will get piss tested. When you go to basic, you will get piss tested. When you go to your technical training, you will get piss tested. This will continue throughout your career. The military has a zero tolerance policy on drug use (except alcohol and tobacco, of course.) If you have a history of excessive drug use, you will not be able to get a Top Secret security clearance; this could restrict you from certain jobs. If you piss positive, you can lose your clearance, and get a dishonerable discharge (which would fuck up the rest of your life.)

There isn't any respect for state law when it comes to military. It doesn't matter if you are a resident of California or not - you aren't governed by the laws in your state; you are governed by the UCMJ.

[TheNew]

Not to sound rude, but what's your question?

[Ceran Wrap]

Originally Posted by Weed.Wacker

Seems pretty easy though =P but your obviously not allowed. But like CIA and Green Berets have it easy, they have to integrate with the traditions and culture of the afgan fighters. It just so happens that the Afgani's toke, so CIA and Green Berets get to do it too.

But I am really interested in knowing if I can smoke if I have a card AND if I am not deployed. I'm going to ask my recruiter about it, but I'm going to make sure he gets the idea that I do it for medical reasons. which I seriously do have insomnia. If you don't believe me, check the insomniac thread lol.

and... The CIA and Green Beret Are almost too a point of secrecy, how do you know that? Accurate guess i suppose, but your not definitely right. only a cia agent would know that. do we have any CIA on here?

[balla420]

from what i've heard....all branches are not the same

airforce is the most strict and have a zero tolerance on all drugs even weed (as if that is really a drug)

army, if you test pos for weed, you will get 30 days for it to clear out of your system and get another test, if neg the 2nd time, you will basically just get a slap on the wrist.

if you just want to smoke while your at home, just do it... then quit like a week before you have to do your time, and drink a couple of gallons of water a day, and work out a lot.

personally, I wouldn't join the military or the police. I'm not going to risk my life unless the end result is becomming extraordinaraly rich. Plus, i aint gonna risk my life and be told when to eat, drink, sleep, piss, and fuck... all for shit that I mostly don't even believe in. sounds like prison life to me...Fuck that!!!

[Hooka]

Originally Posted by balla420

personally, I wouldn't join the military or the police. I'm not going to risk my life unless the end result is becomming extraordinaraly rich. Plus, i aint gonna risk my life and be told when to eat, drink, sleep, piss, and fuck... all for shit that I mostly don't even believe in. sounds like prison life to me...Fuck that!!!

This post is for all the people that have said that this war is pointless, how many of you are in the military? I want to know. You think this war is pointless?! Obama says he'll pull troops out and attempt to end the war..so what happens if we do pull out? Do we risk another 9/11 or something worse? I know the media runs the non-military population of the US, but ill tell you now, I know that myself and no-one else I've met or know have any faith in the media anymore, my brother taught me to follow the right path, I had no clue what he was talking about because I was 14 when he was deployed, 4 years ago. He sent me 19 letters while he was there, half of them where covered in black marker because of censorship and the military's safety. Ill take pictures of them If you don't believe me for some reason, but 2 years later, while I was 16 i was sitting at home while my mother was out at church, my house phone rang and there was a Sgt. From his unit on the phone that I had gotten to know pretty well, he used to come over when my brother came home from basic, he asked if my mother was home and I said no, but he could call back later because it was around 11:30am and my mother comes home from church around then, he said he had personal business that he had to attend to (I found out later it was a service for my brother) and asked me to sit down, I knew something was wrong. I hope none of you have to hear a Soldier break down on the phone crying telling you that your older brother was KIA late last night he took 10 minutes to say it because he was so upset that his best friend (my older brother) was killed and he had to tell his younger brother and then when you realize what happened and what you've lost, and your mother comes in 20 minutes later and you have to tell her that oldest son was killed. I pray to god you don't have to deal
With anything like that. Anyone fighting in that war is brave as hell, how dare any of you say that the war is pointless, Why do you believe the media? We are over there, each of us is fighting their own battles over there as well as protecting you, because if we aren't
Over there, they will come here, and if that ever happens, god forbid, let's see
How pointless the war seems then.

This part below is directed at the quote above ^^

I have a cousin that felt the same way you do, Hes now over there fighting for what he knows is right, Your entitled to your opinions, but i know I'm going over quite soon, I hope you never have to watch your brother or any family member for that matter come back to the states in a coffin, your opinions may change, I know mine did 2 years ago when I was 16, I felt the same way...and I ship out at the end of the summer. I honestly hope that your opinions change to not look at it like prison life, My Cousin, my brother and I have all bled for what we believe is right, I'm not encouraging you to join or anything like that BELIEVE ME, after my brother was K.I.A my parents kicked me out of the house after I got my letter to say I'm going to Sniper school in a few weeks for a crash course until i get shipped over to that dust bowl in late September as a spotter. If your opinions ever change, you may want to read about the military a little more, or talk to a Soldier or two. They'll tell you It sucks and it's hard, but we love doing it, because we believe we are right in doing what we do. Either we decide to do whats right or we sit at home and watch soldiers dieing, I'm not trying to play a guilt trip but that's what is happening. I know what I decided, I'm doing this for my brother and all the Americans out there that believe in the Military, and whatever happens I know he'll be watching over me and my unit, and if anything happens to me or any of my friends over there, They'll know ,You'll know and I'll know that we died for something we believe in. Thank you.

Ooh rah

[pocket biscuits]

^^ so following orders to shoot people you've never met is right?
that's why I'm never joining.

[herbaltoker2]

Originally Posted by Hooka

This post is for all the people that have said that this war is pointless, how many of you are in the military? I want to know. You think this war is pointless?! Obama says he'll pull troops out and attempt to end the war..so what happens if we do pull out? Do we risk another 9/11 or something worse? I know the media runs the non-military population of the US, but ill tell you now, I know that myself and no-one else I've met or know have any faith in the media anymore, my brother taught me to follow the right path, I had no clue what he was talking about because I was 14 when he was deployed, 4 years ago. He sent me 19 letters while he was there, half of them where covered in black marker because of censorship and the military's safety. Ill take pictures of them If you don't believe me for some reason, but 2 years later, while I was 16 i was sitting at home while my mother was out at church, my house phone rang and there was a Sgt. From his unit on the phone that I had gotten to know pretty well, he used to come over when my brother came home from basic, he asked if my mother was home and I said no, but he could call back later because it was around 11:30am and my mother comes home from church around then, he said he had personal business that he had to attend to (I found out later it was a service for my brother) and asked me to sit down, I knew something was wrong. I hope none of you have to hear a Soldier break down on the phone crying telling you that your older brother was KIA late last night he took 10 minutes to say it because he was so upset that his best friend (my older brother) was killed and he had to tell his younger brother and then when you realize what happened and what you've lost, and your mother comes in 20 minutes later and you have to tell her that oldest son was killed. I pray to god you don't have to deal
With anything like that. Anyone fighting in that war is brave as hell, how dare any of you say that the war is pointless, Why do you believe the media? We are over there, each of us is fighting their own battles over there as well as protecting you, because if we aren't
Over there, they will come here, and if that ever happens, god forbid, let's see
How pointless the war seems then.

This part below is directed at the quote above ^^

I have a cousin that felt the same way you do, Hes now over there fighting for what he knows is right, Your entitled to your opinions, but i know I'm going over quite soon, I hope you never have to watch your brother or any family member for that matter come back to the states in a coffin, your opinions may change, I know mine did 2 years ago when I was 16, I felt the same way...and I ship out at the end of the summer. I honestly hope that your opinions change to not look at it like prison life, My Cousin, my brother and I have all bled for what we believe is right, I'm not encouraging you to join or anything like that BELIEVE ME, after my brother was K.I.A my parents kicked me out of the house after I got my letter to say I'm going to Sniper school in a few weeks for a crash course until i get shipped over to that dust bowl in late September as a spotter. If your opinions ever change, you may want to read about the military a little more, or talk to a Soldier or two. They'll tell you It sucks and it's hard, but we love doing it, because we believe we are right in doing what we do. Either we decide to do whats right or we sit at home and watch soldiers dieing, I'm not trying to play a guilt trip but that's what is happening. I know what I decided, I'm doing this for my brother and all the Americans out there that believe in the Military, and whatever happens I know he'll be watching over me and my unit, and if anything happens to me or any of my friends over there, They'll know ,You'll know and I'll know that we died for something we believe in. Thank you.

Ooh rah

I really do feel bad for you man, and don't get me wrong, your a brave motherfucker but that still doesn't make war/killing right. You are placed on this planet to live a happy life and prosper without interference from any other variable that might otherwise terminate your life. I hate to break it to you but you do not know the true meaning of life, you are supposed to be happy, enjoy life while you can and try and live your longest without being in pain or suffering.

The military is a hoax, many of our wars are actually prompted by the US government, they make money off the wars via the arms trade, they are happy to declare war on anyone (ever noticed we never get invaded but we invade places like Iraq and Afghanistan, doesn't sound like defense to me.) Anyway, your being sent out there to fight and put your LIFE(the most valuable thing you'll ever have) in danger for a bunch of greedy, rich politicians all sitting around laughing and joking around with each other, then they go to their huge billion dollar houses, watch some TV, then go to sleep peacefully, if you seriously think any of these politicians who sent you in give a shit about you and your life you are sadly mistaken.

You are not defending your country, you are being manipulated into thinking the military is honorable just so a few suits can grab their big paychecks at the end of the day, they don't care about you, and you will never meet them. You are being sent in to KILL the lives of other human beings that are MUCH less fortunate than you, most are starving or in pain, and you come over there and blast them in the head, it is WRONG and I will never have a part of ANY killing unless it is for self defense. Your a toy, you are a puppet for the men behind the curtain, I beg you to reconsider, I'd hate to see you die for something that isn't a good cause, you really do need to think about this before it's too late, live YOUR life, not sacrifice it for somebody who doesn't give a shit about you, not to mention murdering other people and ruining their families lives as well as theirs. The military is made out to be so honorable but it's just a lie, it is not honorable to kill without questioning why you are killing, little do you know these people who sent you out there don't give a rats ass what happens.

You think that living life is about honor and doing "hard work", You sacrifice your own happiness and fulfilling life just so you can maintain a sense of false honor by thinking your tough for having to deal with traumatic events, it's pointless.

Just my .02 cents, it may seem aggressive but I don't intend this post as a flame, I respect you and all your decision but I just hope someday you'll make the right one.

[rickyjoepr]

no u cant. My paps was in for 23 years. You cant smoke or do any drugs that you are not prescribed too...........PERIOD, including marijuana. You see, if you go tellling them you have insomnia they will kick you out, you cant even have any of that. It dont matter if you are in cali, youll get dishonorably discharged and a bit of jailtime.

[rickyjoepr]

just cuz hes going in doesnt mean hes going to kill, but if you go in the army and the marines you are brainless and cant get into anything bettor, or you are a tool who wants to "fight" for your country.



Not saying that people who fight for me are tools becaus I thank them for my rights but you know the particular american pride meathead guy

[Hooka]

Originally Posted by herbaltoker2

Just my .02 cents, it may seem aggressive but I don't intend this post as a flame, I respect you and all your decision but I just hope someday you'll make the right one.

I understand completely what you are talking about. My brother and I used to do everything together, he always stood up for me and never did me any wrong, the least I can do for him is do something he loved doing, fighting for the people that he really cared about, I'm not suicidal or anything but it seems that the best way i can Honor him is following in his footsteps, and If I come home in one piece or end up K.I.A. The greatest honor I could ever achieve wouldn't be a medal, It would be me, walking up to his grave and talking to him, telling him we won the war and he is a hero and his death wasn't in vein, just making sure he knows that he is right for what he did, and if I can't do that, then i'll be fucking proud to be laying there next to him in the ground, knowing we both died for what we believed in, he was my bestfriend, he bailed me out of so much shit, I love him, He was like a father to me and i'll do anything in the world to bring him back...If i could, i would switch places with him, He was 26 years old, he left behind a baby boy and a wife that dosen't sleep at night still. I wish I could have been there, I wish i was older when it happened and I truly wish that if i was there, i could have taken the bullets for him, he was so happy to leave and do what he believed was right...the man is my Idol, I know you guys may not understand what i'm talking about..but this is the way i will choose to honor my brother.

I believe it is the right choice. After all this, we all have our own opinions that we share, but please, I know im not the only one with a story, there are thousands...tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people just like me. So please, never say that a war is pointless and no-one should join the military because its a bunch of bullshit, I know most of you have read my story and hopefully taken it to heart, the Military isn't a bunch of crazy ass guys that love to run around killing and murdering people. Most Soldiers join with a purpose, and incase you where wondering what my purpose to join was..? The day my older brother left, I wrote on a piece of paper everything i could think about how he was going to be a hero and come home, and at the end I wrote "I promise that I will fight by your side when I am old enough, I love you Big Bro" and to tell all you the truth, I forgot about writing that note until I was at his funeral and I saw it laying on his coffin. He had kept it the whole time, I opened it up to see if it was the note and i was shocked , he wrote back on it saying "If anything happens to me, I wan't you to know that i'll always watch over you, and never let anyone do you harm" then he signed the date..I realized how much the letter ment to me because he wrote on the letter as soon as he found out his unit was going into heavy combat..2 weeks before he was killed, I'm going to carry that letter with me the whole time i'm over there and show my Brother that I can help finish what he started. I'm going to leave this thread now...I truthfully can't talk about it anymore, I hope you all understand that Most soldiers choose to go into Service because they have a reason, not because they want to help our government.

Thank you all for listening, I hope everyone can take something out of this.

[Aussie420]

Originally Posted by Weed.Wacker

I need one to treat my insomnia and I think thats a good thing to have when your in the military.

Mate, if you get deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq, insomnia will be the least of your problems, the PTSD should take care of that!

[herbaltoker2]

Originally Posted by Hooka

I understand completely what you are talking about. My brother and I used to do everything together, he always stood up for me and never did me any wrong, the least I can do for him is do something he loved doing, fighting for the people that he really cared about, I'm not suicidal or anything but it seems that the best way i can Honor him is following in his footsteps, and If I come home in one piece or end up K.I.A. The greatest honor I could ever achieve wouldn't be a medal, It would be me, walking up to his grave and talking to him, telling him we won the war and he is a hero and his death wasn't in vein, just making sure he knows that he is right for what he did, and if I can't do that, then i'll be fucking proud to be laying there next to him in the ground, knowing we both died for what we believed in, he was my bestfriend, he bailed me out of so much shit, I love him, He was like a father to me and i'll do anything in the world to bring him back...If i could, i would switch places with him, He was 26 years old, he left behind a baby boy and a wife that dosen't sleep at night still. I wish I could have been there, I wish i was older when it happened and I truly wish that if i was there, i could have taken the bullets for him, he was so happy to leave and do what he believed was right...the man is my Idol, I know you guys may not understand what i'm talking about..but this is the way i will choose to honor my brother.

I believe it is the right choice. After all this, we all have our own opinions that we share, but please, I know im not the only one with a story, there are thousands...tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people just like me. So please, never say that a war is pointless and no-one should join the military because its a bunch of bullshit, I know most of you have read my story and hopefully taken it to heart, the Military isn't a bunch of crazy ass guys that love to run around killing and murdering people. Most Soldiers join with a purpose, and incase you where wondering what my purpose to join was..? The day my older brother left, I wrote on a piece of paper everything i could think about how he was going to be a hero and come home, and at the end I wrote "I promise that I will fight by your side when I am old enough, I love you Big Bro" and to tell all you the truth, I forgot about writing that note until I was at his funeral and I saw it laying on his coffin. He had kept it the whole time, I opened it up to see if it was the note and i was shocked , he wrote back on it saying "If anything happens to me, I wan't you to know that i'll always watch over you, and never let anyone do you harm" then he signed the date..I realized how much the letter ment to me because he wrote on the letter as soon as he found out his unit was going into heavy combat..2 weeks before he was killed, I'm going to carry that letter with me the whole time i'm over there and show my Brother that I can help finish what he started. I'm going to leave this thread now...I truthfully can't talk about it anymore, I hope you all understand that Most soldiers choose to go into Service because they have a reason, not because they want to help our government.

Thank you all for listening, I hope everyone can take something out of this.

Very understandable, and don't get me wrong, it's great that you want to honor your brother but joining up with a task force run by a bunch of greedy politicians and killing other humans isn't the way to go about it. You claim people don't join to help the government, but for other reasons, I can see NO other logical reason to join the military and possibly risk your life for, you know what your doing and you probably know deep down that it is wrong to kill, your putting your enemies families in the same pain you were put through when your brother passed away. Without the whole brother ordeal, imagine it never happened, now why would you want to join the military?

Let's say your brother didn't join and didn't die, you wouldn't join? If that is correct then tell me how this makes sense: Throwing your life on the line for a bunch of suits that don't care about you and risking your own life and PTSD as well as trauma or terminal injury, all just because your brother died? You are not honoring him in any way, I hate to say it but you are just doing the wrong thing, you and your family have a very warped view of honor.

I hope you realize your doing more harm than good in joining the military, your family has a military history, and they're decisions to join and die put all their loved ones back home in misery all because they wanted to feel honorable, their families at home are innocent people, and your brother goes out there and puts himself in front of bullets just so the rest of the family never has a wink of sleep for the rest of their lives. You are HURTING your family by joining the military, if you die you will leave your family behind and it will destroy their life, you would be responsible for putting your family in deep depression and misery. True honor is NOT joining the military, be the one in your family who actually does the smart thing and stays with their loved ones and lives a happy life, be the first one to do the true honor of staying alive instead of having your whole family tree massacred by the militarys risk factor and death toll is no honroable act at all, in fact, I hate to say it, but it's actually a very selfish thing to do, joining the military puts your family in extreme worry and if something happened to you, you would ruin their lives, ALL for the same of just because your brother got shot and died, if it makes you feel any better the man who probably shot him is probably dead by now and was killed right after shooting your brother, so there's no need to get revenge or honor him.

This really sounds like a bad post and I apologize if I done anything to make it seem hostile, but my thoughts on this are pretty extreme and I'm just trying to help a fellow man out to become the best man in his family and not throw his life and family into peril and misery for the sake of shooting people that you are ordered to die by men in suits who sleep all night peacefully, while your family lays in bed awake thinking about you all night.

[T-Rex Go RAWR]

I am on the verge of joining the military(navy or marines) and you don't join just to go fight. Most people join the military for the experience, great opportunities and the fucking AWESOME benefits. If i were to join the military and go to school while enlisted they pay for ALL of the schooling + you get your salary + all medical/dental and that shit is covered + if you live off base you get X amount of dollars per month. The military is a fucking GREAT opportunity.

Also if you join it's not 100% you are going to fight, i depends on the branch and your job.

[herbaltoker2]

Originally Posted by T-Rex Go RAWR

I am on the verge of joining the military(navy or marines) and you don't join just to go fight. Most people join the military for the experience, great opportunities and the fucking AWESOME benefits. If i were to join the military and go to school while enlisted they pay for ALL of the schooling + you get your salary + all medical/dental and that shit is covered + if you live off base you get X amount of dollars per month. The military is a fucking GREAT opportunity.

Also if you join it's not 100% you are going to fight, i depends on the branch and your job.

Experience, great oppurtinities, and incredible benefits are not worth risking my life over, my life holds more value than any of those things, not to mention risking the distraught depression of my family if something happened to me. Or maybe I come back without a limb, oh yeah that's great experience, oppurtunities? You mean like the opportunity to get shot or blown up? Fun.

[Berry]

I served in the Navy for four years to pay for college. You don't have to agree with this war to serve in the military. Military service is a tradition in my family. I never once was told to shoot anyone, and even though I was stationed in the middle-east, Bahrain, I actually had a great time in the military. The military is just another career choice for alot of people in this country and shouldn't be criticized by the policies of our leaders.

As for marijuana in the military, there is pretty much no way you can smoke and be in the military. I only know the specifics for the Navy, but it is similar across the different branches. You are piss tested the moment you get to MEPs and then regularly after that. Everytime you come back from an extended leave period you will be tested immediately and without any notice. If you are a medical card carrier then I guess it could be possible to get into the military and somehow smoke when you go on leave for long periods of time, but that will be only about once a year and will be around the holidays. Other than that you run the risk of getting randomly tested. If you pop positive, there are no questions asked, you are just immediately discharged.