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Old 05-07-2009, 03:40 AM
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it really goes to show what a grip the scientific and medical community have over the average individual when despite there being more than one person actually using hemp oil to cure cancer, there are still those who say "no, your a lunatic. when science tells me it cures cancer i'll believe you, but until then you are spreading lies and being irresponsible" it's funny because science has already clearly stated that cannabinoids attack cancer cells and have reversed tumor growth. it's splitting hairs to say that just because cannabinoids reduce tumor growth and attacks cancer cells doesn't mean it cures cancer. what is a cure? something that works to eventually make something better. science has proven that cannabinoids work to destroy cancer cells and that finding supports rick simpson's claims that his hemp oil has CURED patients.

those who say that science would have proven cannabis to be the cure for cancer already are appealing to a bias that confirms a preconceived notion. it is a baseless claim, whereas the notion that cannabis has been suppressed politically as well as having a plethora of medical applications is well documented.
Wow, this has to be one of the best posts I've read in a long time. It really explains this whole situation in one perfect, logical statement. I especially like the bolded part. I truly do have faith in science, but humans run the scientific community and humans are flawed. We have spent billions of dollars and decades of research trying to "find" a cure for cancer and many other diseases, and what do we have? Shitty treatments that barely work. Chemotherapy kills more people than it saves. This is what our billions and decades have gone in to? It makes you think that they don't want to find a cure, and that very well might be the case.
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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

The real question is what doesnt cannabis oil help cure??
 
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The real question is what doesnt cannabis oil help cure??
You're right LegalizeHerb. It's not just cancer, hemp oil seems to cure anything! It's no surprise considering how huge the endocannabinoid system is in our bodies. I can't wait until hemp oil is widespread and people start seeing how truly amazing this medicine is. It's going to revolutionize the world in ways even I can't imagine, and things will be really good. The fusion of man and nature... how can that not be fantastic?
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Everybody on this thread who has had skepticism about hemp oil HAS NOT used it. Every single person who has used properly made oil has cured their cancer and other conditions. Every person I have talked to who has used it has seen it work; I've never heard of it not working. So that means absolutely nothing? Just because there isn't a scientific trial? Rick Simpson would LOVE a scientific trial. He said, "Take 12 cancer patients, give the medical system 6 and give me 6, and we'll see what happens." He can't fund his own study, as that costs a lot of money.
(etc...)
Sorry again for my bad english.

No, it's not i'm sceptic, i don't know, that's all.
Thrust but verify... I will have soon the pleasure to verify by myself.
In fact why not?
Behind that (must be checked twice), i only point that cannabis is already an important weapon against cancer.

Even the not politically correct high property.

I do not doubt of nutritional qualities neither and it's also a big part of cancer fighting.

I'm even ready to accept there's some other more directly active good effects to study.
And i personally use cannabis in different ways. It helps me a lot! For many things.

I don't know your doctors, but doctors i know are here to help and that's all.
They say to use cannabis even if it's illegal even to say it where i live.
They take some risks using all what is possible to use.
They take some risks saying there's an environmental and some poisoning problems in our societies to
families touched by cancer.
And they research permanently.

But sorry i do not believe there's a panacea of any kind in this universe.
We must face the truth. We always want more.

The fact is what is good, is enough to win the fight.
If there's more then why not, but check check check re-check and reverify, study a lot before any attempt to say THAT'S TRUE!

Because if it's not true, if there's even a little involuntary interpretation error someone will try to use it to break this hard work world wide... I mean... legalise.

Edited...

You know, if it really works, i am concerned.
My uncle was killed by a cancer. he was 35
My mother was killed by a terrific painfull cancer, she was 45
My cousin just go out of a hodgkin's disease to fall in a lung cancer... 25 years old
And so on...
I just have a very painfull surgery (not a cancer) and my organism reject pain-killers and anti-inflammatory. At this point my stomach not accept food anymore. And all in all i'm a candidate for cancer as it seems to be genetic in my familly.

Believe me, we know cannabis, even my mother who was in her life a very conservative person.
And i would be happy if it's all true.
But if some cure are not cannabis and works i'm happy too.

My activism is only to say there's no reason to make a powerfull medical and quite HARMLESS plant illegal and fuck the morality question up. <--- yeah that's better, sorry i'm not english and i had switch harmless for harmful first.

So, cannabis is quite Harmless.

Use it with wisdom... whatever it might mean...

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My activism is only to say there's no reason to make a powerfull medical and quite harmfull plant illegal and fuck the morality question up.

Use it with wisdom... whatever it might mean...

Too bad its not harmful in any way whatsoever. you claim that this is a harmful and dangerous plant, i see no evidence pointing towards any harmful effects, there have been numerous studies done and not one shows any harmful side effects, aside from short term memory loss. Do you know how many people die every year from cannabis? the answer is 0. do some research on some real medical sites that are widely known throughout the medical community, as well as well known medical journals, I suggest reading some articles in the Lancet, Which is one of the most highly respected medical journals in the WORLD.

Cannabis is ONLY illegal because the timber industry ran a fear campaign against it because they were afraid it would replace wood as the main source of paper.

Enough said. Im gonna go smoke some weed.
 
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Too bad its not harmful in any way whatsoever. you claim that this is a harmful and dangerous plant, i see no evidence pointing towards any harmful effects, there have been numerous studies done and not one shows any harmful side effects, aside from short term memory loss. Do you know how many people die every year from cannabis? the answer is 0. do some research on some real medical sites that are widely known throughout the medical community, as well as well known medical journals, I suggest reading some articles in the Lancet, Which is one of the most highly respected medical journals in the WORLD.

Cannabis is ONLY illegal because the timber industry ran a fear campaign against it because they were afraid it would replace wood as the main source of paper.

Enough said. Im gonna go smoke some weed.
Sorry, i said exactly the opposite of what i think.
I will edit.

Yes of course i subscribe to your opinion.
 
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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

That's good that you agree.
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it really goes to show what a grip the scientific and medical community have over the average individual when despite there being more than one person actually using hemp oil to cure cancer, there are still those who say "no, your a lunatic. when science tells me it cures cancer i'll believe you, but until then you are spreading lies and being irresponsible" it's funny because science has already clearly stated that cannabinoids attack cancer cells and have reversed tumor growth. it's splitting hairs to say that just because cannabinoids reduce tumor growth and attacks cancer cells doesn't mean it cures cancer. what is a cure? something that works to eventually make something better. science has proven that cannabinoids work to destroy cancer cells and that finding supports rick simpson's claims that his hemp oil has CURED patients.

those who say that science would have proven cannabis to be the cure for cancer already are appealing to a bias that confirms a preconceived notion. it is a baseless claim, whereas the notion that cannabis has been suppressed politically as well as having a plethora of medical applications is well documented.

very concise and clearly put.
+rep.

(if i can give any still.)
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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

Yeah, fracturtle's post was extremely well written and explains how ridiculous this situation is. There is so much evidence in favor of hemp oil, and just because it is not "scientific" doesn't mean it isn't valid.
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