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Sky Dog, I will be sure to go after you personally for your unmitigated cynicism. You have offered absolutely no support, and it will certainly be pleasurable for me to see your response once the truth comes out. For now, I'm sure you'll say, "Yeah right", but it doesn't matter. I am patient and can wait.
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I don't think I will be for too much longer. And how come you don't allow Private Messages? Afraid to take me one on one!? Well I highly doubt that is the reason, but still, you are the only person I've seen who doesn't use Private Messaging.
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Your ignorance about medical qualities of cannabis is what you prove by your posts. I am a medical grower for several years, and I have had many kinds of patients. I actually see the way cannabis helps many diseases. It does not work well for crisis pain where your injuries are screaming - it is the long term chronic pain where it excels. It also calms seizures and spasm's. I even saw one patient cured of pancreatic cancer, leaving only scare tissue where the cancer was.

BTW MS is not treated with anti-psychotics. Antispasmodics and anticonvulsants have been given - but cannabis is the best treatment which allows a person with MS to function better, almost feeling normal.

My testimony means nothing to you, and I do not have any expectation of your ability to understand. I see your kind of game being played on every forum where posters are anonymous. You post what you do to incite negative responses, which is more attention than you have gotten since your mama hugged you.


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Wow, okay then. I really don't feel like you read my post. If you did, you'd realize I have nothing against medical marijuana in terms of treatment, just usage; any other person in your "supposedly" respectable position would be less of a hard-on and wouldn't throw such a tizzy over someone partially bashing your once again "supposedly" effective methods, but if you're going to be a dick about it, I have no choice but to prove you wrong.

If you knew anything about the scientific process, you'd know that just by you telling me that your so called cannabis-fueled cures have worked before is hearsay and therefore means shit to me. Secondly, as long as an experimental cure can be repeated again in a clinical trial and have the same results as before, then it can actually be called an effective and real cure. Go ahead and try that again with a patient who has pancreatic cancer and see if it works again. If it's so effective, you should have no trouble furthering medical marijuana as a successful treatment. Perhaps if you weren't so ignorant, you'd realize you have a real gem on your hands. Or maybe you aren't ignorant, you're just full of shit. It's either one or the other champ.

As to the comment about antipsychotics, you got me on that, I must admit. I just find it taboo to smoke something to make you feel better or cure me of something. Taking a pill or injection is so much healthier than purposefully putting carcinogens in your lungs in order to heal yourself. It just seems counter intuitive.

And I'm not exactly positive as to what game you think I'm playing here. Between you and I, it looks more like you're the one playing games; making bogus claims about the completely undetected healing properties of marijuana that hundreds of scientists before you JUST so happened to have missed or "covered up" because "society is against weed" or whatever paranoid conspiracy theory you'd like to fart out.

All in all, what I'm trying to say is that just because an herb has psychedelic properties and grows in the ground doesn't necessarily mean it has any form of healing agent whatsoever.

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Wow, okay then. I really don't feel like you read my post. If you did, you'd realize I have nothing against medical marijuana in terms of treatment, just usage; any other person in your "supposedly" respectable position would be less of a hard-on and wouldn't throw such a tizzy over someone partially bashing your once again "supposedly" effective methods, but if you're going to be a dick about it, I have no choice but to prove you wrong.

If you knew anything about the scientific process, you'd know that just by you telling me that your so called cannabis-fueled cures have worked before is hearsay and therefore means shit to me. Secondly, as long as an experimental cure can be repeated again in a clinical trial and have the same results as before, then it can actually be called an effective and real cure. Go ahead and try that again with a patient who has pancreatic cancer and see if it works again. If it's so effective, you should have no trouble furthering medical marijuana as a successful treatment. Perhaps if you weren't so ignorant, you'd realize you have a real gem on your hands. Or maybe you aren't ignorant, you're just full of shit. It's either one or the other champ.

As to the comment about antipsychotics, you got me on that, I must admit. I just find it taboo to smoke something to make you feel better or cure me of something. Taking a pill or injection is so much healthier than purposefully putting carcinogens in your lungs in order to heal yourself. It just seems counter intuitive.

And I'm not exactly positive as to what game you think I'm playing here. Between you and I, it looks more like you're the one playing games; making bogus claims about the completely undetected healing properties of marijuana that hundreds of scientists before you JUST so happened to have missed or "covered up" because "society is against weed" or whatever paranoid conspiracy theory you'd like to fart out.

All in all, what I'm trying to say is that just because an herb has psychedelic properties and grows in the ground doesn't necessarily mean it has any form of healing agent whatsoever.

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dude..if you are a dude if not woman how can you make such false claims with no evidence to back it up considering your knowledge of the scientific process. here are some links supporting cannabis as a medicine. the reason there aren't to many new "detections of healing properties" is that few countries fund research on cannabis and america hasn't funded any in the past decades.

ohh and if you vaporize all carcinogens are eliminated so stop smoking those Ls for a month and buy a vaporgenie.

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Cannabinoids for Cancer Treatment: Progress and Promise -- Sarfaraz et al. 68 (2): 339 -- Cancer Research

http://www.safeaccess.ca/research/pd...liomas2008.pdf

Simultaneous inhibition of glioma angiogenesis, ce...[Cancer Res. 2001] - PubMed Result

Journal of Clinical Investigation -- Cannabinoid action induces autophagy-mediated cell death through stimulation of ER stress in human glioma cells

Recent Research on Medical Marijuana - NORML

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dude..if you are a dude if not woman how can you make such false claims with no evidence to back it up considering your knowledge of the scientific process. here are some links supporting cannabis as a medicine. the reason there aren't to many new "detections of healing properties" is that few countries fund research on cannabis and america hasn't funded any in the past decades.

ohh and if you vaporize all carcinogens are eliminated so stop smoking those Ls for a month and buy a vaporgenie.
Didn't quite understand the woman part, but okay... Anyhow, I appreciate the links you sent. They do back up your cause and if there really is a cure within cannabis, then God willing. All I'm saying is I'm doubtful. I also agree with vaporizing; that is 100 times healthier than smoking AND you get about 99% of the THC -- that's about 3 times as much of a high you get from a bong, and if the THC is the active ingredient behind this possible "cannaboid agent" that can help cure or heal, then that's a great way to get it. Or, medicine companies can buy massive amounts of weed and vaporize it all so the THC can be condensed in pill form -- I'm cool with it either way. The point I'm trying to make is that most of these research labs aren't funded mainly because smoking something to make you better is taboo; it freaks out mainstream society, and if we're trying to help people, we gotta help the dumb, easily frightened ones too (unfortunately ).

I'd just like to say that I really don't mean to come off as hostile or anything, I'm just trying to be a realist about this. Yet, anything is possible, and if science can prove that weed has this special attribute and actually puts it to good use, it's a win-win.
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I'd just like to say that I really don't mean to come off as hostile or anything, I'm just trying to be a realist about this. Yet, anything is possible, and if science can prove that weed has this special attribute and actually puts it to good use, it's a win-win.
Well said - lets have peace for now - till research is enough to convince others.


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THANK YOU, CLINTON!

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Old 05-06-2009, 07:21 PM
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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

Im not a regular when it comes to smoking weed....
But honestly and i do mean honestly do you think there is any kinda truth to this?
This is the first time ive ever heard of it and it leads me to think that since weed has been used for medical treatment for over 5000 years dont you think that some doctors or scientists would have published concreate evidence about it by now???

Im not swallowing that BS about pharmaceutical companies hiding the truth. That just sounds plain stupid. I never smoke bud when im sick,,,, but i have to say one time when i had a high fever i was all over the place and decided beacuse i was so uncomfortable im gonna take a few hits from my brothers J and it got me better by the next day. I actully started feeling alot better after i smoked it. My temperture went down from 38 to 36. I read some where that cannabis can help you through a fever depending on the type of fever as the THC acts as a anti-flammatory agent.

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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

What cannabis do for sure is to help people with cancer to tolerate side effects of the chemotherapy.
e.g. those terrible nauseas.
Sometimes, those side effects are so omnipresent and so hard that they destroy the taste of life.
In this reason it's for sure a great complement to the hard treatment.

What is politically incorrect is to say that getting high is also a great help when you are badly sick (if you don't develop paranoid stuffs or what-else...)

A weed high works like a kind of dissociative drug in some way, but is surely less dangerous than some legal medical stuffs.

Yes getting high is a cure in some way and we know it's not very destructive.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:26 PM
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Everybody on this thread who has had skepticism about hemp oil HAS NOT used it. Every single person who has used properly made oil has cured their cancer and other conditions. Every person I have talked to who has used it has seen it work; I've never heard of it not working. So that means absolutely nothing? Just because there isn't a scientific trial? Rick Simpson would LOVE a scientific trial. He said, "Take 12 cancer patients, give the medical system 6 and give me 6, and we'll see what happens." He can't fund his own study, as that costs a lot of money.

By the way, I have seen hemp oil work with my own eyes curing skin infections that even the most powerful medications could not. It wasn't cancer, but that's only because I was not able to find anybody with cancer to use the oil on. I had a few leads, but none of them materialized, unfortunately.

The new videos from Rick on http://youtube.com/chrychek, the Hemp Seminar, is simply fantastic. I suggest watching Parts 7-11 if you don't want to watch the whole thing. Here, I'll just attach them here. Say what you think after this!

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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

Cannabis has been proven to help.
Sativex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sativex recently completed a phase III study proving the benefits of its product.

Introducing...
Pharmaceutical cannabis corporation. Ticker GFON (CBIS.OB starting tomorrow)

I am still skeptical about the cure for cancer though. I hope its true and the Rick Simpon's videos make it hard for me not to believe but I'll beleive it when I can see a 1st hand experience or journal or university confirms it.

Edit: I just finished watching the videos ThePhantom posted and wow. It really is hard not to believe. Thanks trawepale for the links also.

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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

Thanks for watching, CaliCheese! As I said, these videos are a lot more powerful than Run From the Cure.

And just ask yourself, why would Rick be saying all this if it wasn't true? He has absolutely nothing to gain, and anybody could easily disprove him by using hemp oil and it not working. However, the reason he has made it this far and gotten so much support is because it works! Even Jack Herer, the greatest hemp activist of all time, supports him wholeheartedly and uses the oil himself. By how this movement has run its course, it is statistically impossible that hemp oil is not the cure for cancer, of course I have a lot of additional knowledge that makes that statement true.

In conclusion, PLEASE watch the videos that I posted. If you don't believe, those will heavily turn your opinion.
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Im not a regular when it comes to smoking weed....
But honestly and i do mean honestly do you think there is any kinda truth to this?
This is the first time ive ever heard of it and it leads me to think that since weed has been used for medical treatment for over 5000 years dont you think that some doctors or scientists would have published concreate evidence about it by now???

Im not swallowing that BS about pharmaceutical companies hiding the truth. That just sounds plain stupid. I never smoke bud when im sick,,,, but i have to say one time when i had a high fever i was all over the place and decided beacuse i was so uncomfortable im gonna take a few hits from my brothers J and it got me better by the next day. I actully started feeling alot better after i smoked it. My temperture went down from 38 to 36. I read some where that cannabis can help you through a fever depending on the type of fever as the THC acts as a anti-flammatory agent.
dude is inflammatory and does reduce pretty much all fevers since a fever is a term used for the accumulation of blood at a site of action causing redness and heat.
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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

it really goes to show what a grip the scientific and medical community have over the average individual when despite there being more than one person actually using hemp oil to cure cancer, there are still those who say "no, your a lunatic. when science tells me it cures cancer i'll believe you, but until then you are spreading lies and being irresponsible" it's funny because science has already clearly stated that cannabinoids attack cancer cells and have reversed tumor growth. it's splitting hairs to say that just because cannabinoids reduce tumor growth and attacks cancer cells doesn't mean it cures cancer. what is a cure? something that works to eventually make something better. science has proven that cannabinoids work to destroy cancer cells and that finding supports rick simpson's claims that his hemp oil has CURED patients.

those who say that science would have proven cannabis to be the cure for cancer already are appealing to a bias that confirms a preconceived notion. it is a baseless claim, whereas the notion that cannabis has been suppressed politically as well as having a plethora of medical applications is well documented.

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those who say that science would have proven cannabis to be the cure for cancer already are appealing to a bias that confirms a preconceived notion. It is a baseless claim, whereas the notion that cannabis has been suppressed politically as well as having a plethora of medical applications is well documented.
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