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Old 04-27-2009, 12:34 AM
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I agree. It's almost cultic (if that's even a word ).

It would be awesome if the oil worked as people are saying it does - even if the oil is only revitalizing a suppressed immune system.

I do have one thing to add - to those who are talking about how this stuff has healed people with stage 4 (terminal) cancer...

One of my old pastors at a church I used to go to has a similar story - 'cept it was his father who had the stage 4 cancer. Doctors gave him 2 weeks to live. So the father tells the doctors that he expects he is going to make a full recovery (faith in God, all that BS)... So the doctor tells the father he's crazy blah blah blah...

The father listens to this radio show (church on the radio kinda shit), and the guy on the radio is going on about how "god" is laying it on his heart that someone is in need of healing, and that this person should pray with him. So the cancer guy puts his hand on the radio and prays with the radio guy.... And guess what... His cancer miraculously disappears (this story IS legit, btw).

So I guess prayer is the cure for cancer, too??? Or the radio... That's it... The radio cured his cancer!!! Or maybe that flying zombie carpenter guy who never actually existed to begin with cured his cancer??

Stage 4 cancer patients DO survive sometimes... And the doctors have no way of explaining it. So just because someone had stage 4 cancer, took this oil, and lived - does not necessarily mean that it was the oil that cured him/her. Just like it wasn't Jesus, or the radio, or prayer that cured my old pastor's father.
this is purely my opinion, but i think that people severely underestimate mind/body medicine. just because we don't understand it quite yet doesn't mean it can't be real and doesn't have benefits. my grandfather was diagnosed with cancer and simply didn't believe them. he went about his life believing he didn't have cancer, and within a few months, he didn't.
 
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this is purely my opinion, but i think that people severely underestimate mind/body medicine. just because we don't understand it quite yet doesn't mean it can't be real and doesn't have benefits. my grandfather was diagnosed with cancer and simply didn't believe them. he went about his life believing he didn't have cancer, and within a few months, he didn't.
I agree that positive thinking does have its benefits. I think that is partially the reason for my pastor's father surviving. His faith that Jesus was going to take care of him helped him to keep a more positive frame of mind. Is this necessarily what cured him? I don't know. I think it may of had a hand in it though
 
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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

When I read threads like this one and others of same ilk, I wonder why some people want to be right about cannabis NOT being a cancer cure.

We need to hold onto hope when we are told bad news. Our spirits are important to fighting off what is trying to kill us.

Some people doubt that medical marijuana is real. That we only use it to get high. That is as much BS as any claim pro or con about cannabis and cancer.

There is much to indicate that cannabis does fight some cancer cells in a petri dish. There is growing research to support cannabis as a cancer fighter.

So let us all hope that cancer will be defeated soon. Maybe cannabis will be a cure.

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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

I highly doubt that cannabis is the cure to any form of cancer. In fact, let me just say that I feel that medical marijuana is ridiculous, in that there are better ways to counter many of the symptoms medical marijuana is supposed to be given to treat. I also think this gives cannabis an even more taboo appearance. It makes as much sense as giving a patient at the dentists office 15 shots of Goldshlagger to numb the pain of a root canal; sure it'll work, but there are better ways. Also, I consider herbal remedies to be pseudoscience unless clinically tested and proven to work by a legitimate medical company and not some shitheaded botanist who thinks he knows what he's talking about.

But all in all, I say legalize it, even tax it so we can help get us out of this deficit. As long as they don't engineer it t be lame, I'm happy.
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Cannabis Cures Cancer - "Run From The Cure" The Rick Simpson Story

Saw this video and connected 1 more dot in the puzzle...informative
Interesting. Thanks for posting!
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I highly doubt that cannabis is the cure to any form of cancer. In fact, let me just say that I feel that medical marijuana is ridiculous, in that there are better ways to counter many of the symptoms medical marijuana is supposed to be given to treat. I also think this gives cannabis an even more taboo appearance. It makes as much sense as giving a patient at the dentists office 15 shots of Goldshlagger to numb the pain of a root canal; sure it'll work, but there are better ways.
Cannabis IS one of the most safe and therapeutic substances known to man. What the fuck are your better ways? Have you ever seen someone suffering from MS tremors smoke weed? They're actually able to speak and not shake afterwards, you TELL THEM that you don't think their medicine is legitimate. There is not only solely anecdotal evidence there are some related studies that cannabis, specifically THC helps slow and even stop the growth of tumors. Even the skeptics have to believe that. There were also Canadian scientists who were able to destroy cancer cells in a petri dish using THC. You feel that medical mj is rediculous, I feel that your opinion is ridiculous.

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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

fuck this shit off, propoganda is still propoganda no matter what side of the argument youre on.
 
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fuck this shit off, propoganda is still propoganda no matter what side of the argument youre on.
the fact is no one knows. it's theorized that THC kills aging cells helping to prevent cancer, is it so far out there that it could cure it? i mean in the united states the DEA hasn't allowed any legitimate research to take place, so there really is no proof. i just dont think its that far out there to imagine that our government could be keeping the cure for cancer from us. and you really will never know till you get cancer yourself and try it good luck!
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Re: Cannabis oil cures cancer.

Could be true. I think its a straight up crime that this isn't being studied like crazy. "Those in charge" are much more concerned with profitable synthetic pharms that don't work.

If thats not modern day fascism what is?
 
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Why not let science decide if cannabis is medicine?

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I highly doubt that cannabis is the cure to any form of cancer. In fact, let me just say that I feel that medical marijuana is ridiculous, in that there are better ways to counter many of the symptoms medical marijuana is supposed to be given to treat. I also think this gives cannabis an even more taboo appearance. It makes as much sense as giving a patient at the dentists office 15 shots of Goldshlagger to numb the pain of a root canal; sure it'll work, but there are better ways. Also, I consider herbal remedies to be pseudoscience unless clinically tested and proven to work by a legitimate medical company and not some shitheaded botanist who thinks he knows what he's talking about.

But all in all, I say legalize it, even tax it so we can help get us out of this deficit. As long as they don't engineer it t be lame, I'm happy.
You're an ignorant ass. I suggest you start doing some research.

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There is an old story about some philosophers who were arguing about how many teeth a horse had. The argument got quite heated. Finally, one of the brighter ones went outside, and saw a horse coming down the road. He waited until it neared, grabbed the horse, looked in its mouth, and counted.

You guys are arguing over whether cannabis "cures" cancers. The argument has gotten quite heated. Now I go to out to other forums. I read a blog of a guy whose dad is attempting to cure a stage 4 cancer with the oil. Dad feels much better and is on fewer meds. There is another report of a leukemia patient reportedly "cured" by cannabis with a doctor writing a paper about it. And a few others that are similar. None of these are proof.

But they are "the horse I can see, walking down the road". I, for one, will "grab the horse as it passes by, and look" (read the study!). The studies to prove, or disprove, the efficacy of Simpson's oil on cancers and other diseases, are bound to start showing up soon. Anecdotal stories intrigue researchers and give them ideas for studies. It is just a matter of time.

And have you guys forgotten that we are on the same side? As adults, we should be able to "agree to disagree" on the point, move on, and treat each other with simple respect.


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I know the blog you are referring to. The man who is writing it is Rob Riggs, and he has seen INCREDIBLE improvements with the oil. Here is the blog:

http://cannalink.org/community/blog/phoenixjourney/

Honestly, I am tired of trying to convince you all. Watch the new hemp seminar on YouTube - Kanaal van chrychek. It answers all the questions that are regularly asked, such as where are the people that Rick has cured, and why isn't this out yet.

By the way, anybody can call the Liberty Bell Temple, which is a cannabis dispensary that discovered cannabis cures cancer independent of Rick. Their phone number is 323-663-2420.

Although it may be futile for many of you, I will never stop promoting this medicine. I have seen it work myself and I know it works. At this point, it doesn't matter. This is all going to come out very soon, and then there will be absolutely no argument.

Sky Dog, I will be sure to go after you personally for your unmitigated cynicism. You have offered absolutely no support, and it will certainly be pleasurable for me to see your response once the truth comes out. For now, I'm sure you'll say, "Yeah right", but it doesn't matter. I am patient and can wait.

Jack Herer, the most famous cannabis activist of all time, fully supports Rick and all his claims, including that it can cure the majority of all serious human disease. Jack has a very big reputation and would not stake it on something so huge if it was not true. He has used the oil himself and it has helped him recover very well from his stroke. I think a great page about Rick is located at http://jackherer.com/rick.html.

By the way, it is a fact that Rick Simpson went to court for "trafficking THC". He faced 12 years in prison, but was let off by the Judge because of the nature of the crime, in that he was giving away the medicine and not selling it. Even after his first conviction, he got arrested again doing the same thing, even though he could have gotten in so much trouble. He did it because he was saving lives.

Rick was caught with over 1,500 plants, and had distributed concentrated oil to hundreds of people. Any other person would probably get around life in prison for that, but not Rick. There are plenty of news articles about him on AmherstDaily.com, such as this:

http://www.amherstdaily.com/index.cfm?sid=63475&sc=58

I spoke to Rick again today for about an hour, and I am more confident than ever that this will come out imminently. Your skepticism of this is very alarming to me, but as I said, it truly doesn't matter. The wheels are in motion, and the world will begin to change soon. I don't even really care about proving any of you wrong, I just want to see this medicine global, and I have some things myself I need to use it for. It's just an added bonus of being able to be right, but it's minuscule compared to the other benefits.
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Cannabis IS one of the most safe and therapeutic substances known to man. What the fuck are your better ways? Have you ever seen someone suffering from MS tremors smoke weed? They're actually able to speak and not shake afterwards, you TELL THEM that you don't think their medicine is legitimate. There is not only solely anecdotal evidence there are some related studies that cannabis, specifically THC helps slow and even stop the growth of tumors. Even the skeptics have to believe that. There were also Canadian scientists who were able to destroy cancer cells in a petri dish using THC. You feel that medical mj is rediculous, I feel that your opinion is ridiculous.
Perhaps they should just extract the THC then. Why smoke it? I'm sure there are lots of other things you can smoke that could actually help you, I'm not saying it's impossible, but there are better ways of going about it. Also, as to your MS, anti-psychotics would do the trick as well, in your defense however, most anti-psychotics are created by accident. Either way, more research should be used before we "count all our chickens".

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Perhaps they should just extract the THC then. Why smoke it? I'm sure there are lots of other things you can smoke that could actually help you, I'm not saying it's impossible, but there are better ways of going about it. Also, as to your MS, anti-psychotics would do the trick as well, in your defense however, most anti-psychotics are created by accident. Either way, more research should be used before we "count all our chickens".

PS - Hostility... there's a cure for that...
Your ignorance about medical qualities of cannabis is what you prove by your posts. I am a medical grower for several years, and I have had many kinds of patients. I actually see the way cannabis helps many diseases. It does not work well for crisis pain where your injuries are screaming - it is the long term chronic pain where it excels. It also calms seizures and spasm's. I even saw one patient cured of pancreatic cancer, leaving only scare tissue where the cancer was.

BTW MS is not treated with anti-psychotics. Antispasmodics and anticonvulsants have been given - but cannabis is the best treatment which allows a person with MS to function better, almost feeling normal.

My testimony means nothing to you, and I do not have any expectation of your ability to understand. I see your kind of game being played on every forum where posters are anonymous. You post what you do to incite negative responses, which is more attention than you have gotten since your mama hugged you.


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Awesome that you have helped so many people Clinton! I think I'll PM you about this.
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