Cannabis oil cures cancer.

[civicrcr07]

I don't have a doubt in my mind that the cure for cancer lies within marijuana. There is so much positive usage with this plant. From using it as a bio-fuel to using it for textiles and personal health.
Thank you for posting this video. +rep =]

[greggnosvamos]

i didnt think that in a community of people who have faced so much opposition for enjoying cannabis, that some of the same people would be sooo rude and negative. and to give someone negative rep for simply providing potentially helpful information that he found is ridiculous and simple minded. Its the same ideas and unwilingness to believe that will probably hinder the lives of those who were too taken a back by someones effort to share INFORMATION to even finish reading the OP's message. but i guess i can understand some of the crazies that have replied because i'm a strong believer that people are a product of their environment and when for years you eat, sleep, breathe and live the life of a person unwilling to learn and scared of change you become frightened when people pose ideas that arent in exact alignment with those that you hold...this is really the world that we live in and im cool with it because those who might have cancer and would like to explore this opportunity can seek help and if it truly works then thats great for them...we should all try to open our minds a bit more...why is it hurting some people that herbnhaler has posted this video??? at no point did he force you to read it or to accept the information in the video...i know how cliche and corny it sounds,but knowledge really is power, so why are there so many people replying to this thread intent on keeping people who could at the very least be given an idea towards battling a disease, away from knowledge....oh and herbnhaler thanks for possibly helping someone

[willardtokes123]

i'm partly with OSG just for the fact that the OP labeled cannabis oil as "the cure for cancer" ...its very misleading, even for adults
but it is great that they are experimenting with cannabis and pushing it in the medicinal field.

just named wrong is all.

[ThePhantom]

Just because it sounds unbelievable doesn't mean it is true. Rick has not come across a single type of cancer, or even a single DISEASE, that hemp oil could not cure or completely control. I have spoken with numerous people who have used hemp oil to cure their cancer, and one who used it to heal a destroyed spine that even morphine and valium could not cover up. I have seen hemp oil work with my own eyes on an "incurable" skin infection. This is not a fucking joke. I've never heard of hemp oil not working. With all the people I've talked to who've used it for cancer, they all see huge improvements in their patients. And cannabinoids have been shown to inhibit many types of cancers scientifically.

Why would Rick and all these people be lying about this? His whole movement is based on people trying this for themselves. He says if you don't believe it, make the oil and use it on a cancer patient, and it will work. He doesn't try to sell you the medicine himself, he wants you to make it and see it work, and nobody has ever contradicted him. People say, "Oh, he has to be lying, this has to be false," but EVERY PERSON who has said this HAS NOT tried the oil. I have tried it and seen it work. I have talked to people who have tried it and seen it work. I know an organization and another person who discovered cannabis can cure cancer INDEPENDENT of Rick Simpson.

Why do you all doubt the power of nature? Nature created us, conscious beings. Why couldn't it create something to save us conscious beings? Out of all the plants in the world, why couldn't there be one that could heal most of our ailments? The majority of human disease is based on defective or mutated cells, and hemp oil works on the fundamental level of fixing any type of cell.

Rick Simpson says it is the cure for cancer because it is. What is he supposed to do, not say it because it is too bold? He is simply stating his observations, and if they are too unbelievable for you, then let your families die.

[sky dog]

Originally Posted by ThePhantom

I know an organization and another person who discovered cannabis can cure cancer INDEPENDENT of Rick Simpson.

Where's the proof?

[IGotTheCottons]

My opinion on this is kind of mixed. Does cannabis have noted/documented beneficial affects for cancer patients? Absolutely. Is it a cure-all? Hell no.

My theory as to why the oil works as well as people claim is this:

The majority of people on this planet are malnourished. Malnutrition causes all kinds of fucked up diseases (CANCER being one of the main ones).

Hemp seed is one of only 2 foods that contain complete nutrition - the other being flax seed (thus, you can eat nothing but that food & drink water, and be perfectly nourished). Soy is healthy enough to where you can eat just soy & drink water, and you won't die - but you will not be perfectly nourished as soy is not a complete protein.

So the people who are sick, who are getting better from this Hemp Oil treatment, are likely recovering because their bodies are now fully nourished. A body that receives proper nutrition is capable of fighting off all types of fucked up diseases.

Do I think the Oil is curing the cancer? No. Not at all. I think it's the fact that the people are finally receiving proper nutrition, and it's their own immune systems that are fighting off the cancers (which they got mostly because of their malnutrition).

If you eat nothing but raw fruits/vegetables, you have almost 0 chance of ever developing any type of cancer (unless you are genetically predisposed to, in which case, you're prolly fucked no matter what you do).

Originally Posted by Skunk1

I agree. Seems no different than the people who tell cancer patients to stop taking all their meds and believe that the power of god will save them. Until there are real studies this is just another joke to sane people.

chem trails
9/11
big pharmaceutical
moon landing
2012
cancer industry

Stop smoking marijuana if it makes you paranoid.

Chem trails are actually legit. There is a difference between the trails that are composed of ice particles (that disperse in minutes), and chem trails (linger for HOURS).

Originally Posted by Astrovan

Both sides have your points, but believe it or not you're BOTH flirting with zealotry here.

The Oil's supporters (myself included here) should not jump the gun and use so many sticky all-inclusive nouns and adjectives (remember, none of this is sure-fire until its tested on an individual personally)

However, it isnt necessary to rain all over their parade simply because "not enough research has been done". As has been said before, this was started by an older chap from Nova Scotia, not some rich banker-invester-researcher scientist. Not enough research has been done you say? THEN PUSH FOR IT! The man clearly is at least on to something.

You say it might only cure one cancer. So what? Thats a huge relief to tens of thousands of people I'm sure. And if it can cure more? Fan-fucking-tastic. There are no losers here, only potential gain.

Let me just put it like this:

BAD:

Statement #1: "Hemp Oil is a cancer cure-all. No matter what type of cancer you have or what stage its in, you're saved! Everyone in the world with cancer is okay now! Hooray!"

Statement #2: "Hemp Oil hasn't been properly researched and bureaucratized by the pharmeceautical establishment, so it has no merits yet and you shouldn't look into it and consider it a treatment option."

GOOD:

Statement #3: "Hemp Oil has shown remarkable promise in many patients suffering from various forms of cellular mutation, and while its medical value has not been irrefutably confirmed as of yet the treatment may be an option to you, should you wish to investigate yourself and weigh the choices yourself."


See how I took the best of both worlds there?

If I were you folks, I'd refer this to as many every-day average folk you can find, and especially to anyone in the medical field.

Bonus points for researchers.

And if they're a cancer patient interested in an alternative treatment, present the benefits and risks to them in an honest, unbiased way.

In my opinion, the only detriments are cost (relatively minimal), and legal risk, and honestly, most people I know would rather break a law to live, than well... die.

You don't get a medal for being a dead law-abiding citizen.

But again, its up to the patient, not you or me or Rick Simpson or anyone else.

EXACTLY!!!

Originally Posted by Herb N. Haler

man, you guys are serious.
Wildwill & Skydog....negative rep me...?
For stating a logical unbiased position on how these people in this video arent just kooks and liars..which is kind of what your insinuating of their testimonies...

Wildwill you say I engaged in agism...when a guy negative reps me for speaking my mind...reasonably and clearly..which was watch & conclude... Funny...I still wont -rep you in reatalliation...?
Skydog u -rep me for being "kind of an asshole.."
wow, how articulate too...
this shit is very stupid...a cure for cancer thread got me my first 3 -reps...
Funny world, this shows even on a "cannabis forum" their is conditioning and rejection of uncomfortable truths...its easy to take the cynical/100% skeptical position(smells of feux intellectualism) thats what were used too...the agreed upon commercial understanding of "controversial" topics and complicated issues..

I think many people need to understand truly the plant they ingest and intake.
Like Bob Marley said, the herb reveals you to yourself...
Lets you know the type of person you are, as it allows ones faculties to work more intensely, and actively...but if you lack understanding or are subconsiously controlled by past traumas in your life that you refuse to address, accept, and grow from...then you are not on a balanced foundation...and can not see thing openly, objectively, and clearly...with your only allegiance to truth...
Even baseless disbelief is a selfish personal impediment...an immature fear of acceptance...who are you to sabotage an honest trial(case,deliberation,judgement) of these claims?

And that was all I posted this video for...Who knows if this oil cures every type or any cancer for certain...All I know is all the personal information Ive learned about the cannabis plant(bio/chem/hist) and the testimonies of the people in this video and the method in which he produces it...
In my judgement they have less reason and less to gain from being dishonest regarding their claims...

I dont need to see 10 years of FDA studies to prove cannabis isnt a schedule 1 narcotic, though they use that "nontested" excuse to deny its medicinal value...
Its how and why for me in edition to trial and error and take notes...
The official testing is impededed by its illegality...
these two topics are closely intertwined...
Though freedom of speech is a right, it should be dependent on ones obliged responsibility to listen...

That is all I can say on this thread...til a later time when more is "discovered" and people transform to the potential of their capability or at least try...

Astrovan i agree.....

piece...
come 2gether.

You deserved neg rep for being so fanatical about it, and immediately dismissing anyone who doubted you (your beliefs WILL be challenged here - I suggest you learn how to deal with that). You are claiming that this oil is a cure-all for cancer - and you immediately reject anyone who thinks it may need some more research before you can make those types of claims.

You ask how old we are on this board... My question is - how old are YOU?

Originally Posted by sky dog

Where's the proof?

2nd-ed

...Also, sky dog, you can't be leaving comments like that in rep. Same rules apply to Rep/PM's/Visitor Messages as on the open boards.

[Storm Crow]

There is an old story about some philosophers who were arguing about how many teeth a horse had. The argument got quite heated. Finally, one of the brighter ones went outside, and saw a horse coming down the road. He waited until it neared, grabbed the horse, looked in its mouth, and counted.

You guys are arguing over whether cannabis "cures" cancers. The argument has gotten quite heated. Now I go to out to other forums. I read a blog of a guy whose dad is attempting to cure a stage 4 cancer with the oil. Dad feels much better and is on fewer meds. There is another report of a leukemia patient reportedly "cured" by cannabis with a doctor writing a paper about it. And a few others that are similar. None of these are proof.

But they are "the horse I can see, walking down the road". I, for one, will "grab the horse as it passes by, and look" (read the study!). The studies to prove, or disprove, the efficacy of Simpson's oil on cancers and other diseases, are bound to start showing up soon. Anecdotal stories intrigue researchers and give them ideas for studies. It is just a matter of time.

And have you guys forgotten that we are on the same side? As adults, we should be able to "agree to disagree" on the point, move on, and treat each other with simple respect.


Granny

[NJSourD]

Originally Posted by Storm Crow

There is an old story about some philosophers who were arguing about how many teeth a horse had. The argument got quite heated. Finally, one of the brighter ones went outside, and saw a horse coming down the road. He waited until it neared, grabbed the horse, looked in its mouth, and counted.

You guys are arguing over whether cannabis "cures" cancers. The argument has gotten quite heated. Now I go to out to other forums. I read a blog of a guy whose dad is attempting to cure a stage 4 cancer with the oil. Dad feels much better and is on fewer meds. There is another report of a leukemia patient reportedly "cured" by cannabis with a doctor writing a paper about it. And a few others that are similar. None of these are proof.

But they are "the horse I can see, walking down the road". I, for one, will "grab the horse as it passes by, and look" (read the study!). The studies to prove, or disprove, the efficacy of Simpson's oil on cancers and other diseases, are bound to start showing up soon. Anecdotal stories intrigue researchers and give them ideas for studies. It is just a matter of time.

And have you guys forgotten that we are on the same side? As adults, we should be able to "agree to disagree" on the point, move on, and treat each other with simple respect.


Granny

Amen!

[Skunk1]

Originally Posted by ThePhantom

Just because it sounds unbelievable doesn't mean it is true. Rick has not come across a single type of cancer, or even a single DISEASE, that hemp oil could not cure or completely control. I have spoken with numerous people who have used hemp oil to cure their cancer, and one who used it to heal a destroyed spine that even morphine and valium could not cover up. I have seen hemp oil work with my own eyes on an "incurable" skin infection. This is not a fucking joke. I've never heard of hemp oil not working. With all the people I've talked to who've used it for cancer, they all see huge improvements in their patients. And cannabinoids have been shown to inhibit many types of cancers scientifically.

Why would Rick and all these people be lying about this? His whole movement is based on people trying this for themselves. He says if you don't believe it, make the oil and use it on a cancer patient, and it will work. He doesn't try to sell you the medicine himself, he wants you to make it and see it work, and nobody has ever contradicted him. People say, "Oh, he has to be lying, this has to be false," but EVERY PERSON who has said this HAS NOT tried the oil. I have tried it and seen it work. I have talked to people who have tried it and seen it work. I know an organization and another person who discovered cannabis can cure cancer INDEPENDENT of Rick Simpson.

Why do you all doubt the power of nature? Nature created us, conscious beings. Why couldn't it create something to save us conscious beings? Out of all the plants in the world, why couldn't there be one that could heal most of our ailments? The majority of human disease is based on defective or mutated cells, and hemp oil works on the fundamental level of fixing any type of cell.

Rick Simpson says it is the cure for cancer because it is. What is he supposed to do, not say it because it is too bold? He is simply stating his observations, and if they are too unbelievable for you, then let your families die.

Originally Posted by sky dog

Where's the proof?

I know bugs bunny and jesus personally. Does that mean they're real?
For someone who describes themselves as a hemp oil activist, you don't have anything to support your activism except "I know this guy and I know this...".

Why would Rick and all these people be lying about this? His whole movement is based on people trying this for themselves.

I dunno, why would Charles Manson lie?

and if they are too unbelievable for you, then let your families die.

Yes, that's how you make people believe you. Join us or die. You christian by any chance?

[WildWill]

Originally Posted by Skunk1

I dunno, why would Charles Manson lie?

Yes, that's how you make people believe you. Join us or die. You christian by any chance?

Going a bit overboard there doncha think?

I agree with your sentiments, but hyperbole isn't needed.

[Skunk1]

Originally Posted by WildWill

Going a bit overboard there doncha think?

I agree with your sentiments, but hyperbole isn't needed.

Eh maybe. I just love playing devil's advocate in situations like this where people believe so passionately in something.

I'm sure all of us would love it if cannabis oil really does cure cancer, but I just find it interesting that these people follow Rick Simpson so willingly without any hard proof whatsoever...and I see parallels to followers of Charles Manson and such.

[IGotTheCottons]

Originally Posted by Skunk1

Eh maybe. I just love playing devil's advocate in situations like this where people believe so passionately in something.

I'm sure all of us would love it if cannabis oil really does cure cancer, but I just find it interesting that these people follow Rick Simpson so willingly without any hard proof whatsoever...and I see parallels to followers of Charles Manson and such.

I agree. It's almost cultic (if that's even a word ).

It would be awesome if the oil worked as people are saying it does - even if the oil is only revitalizing a suppressed immune system.

I do have one thing to add - to those who are talking about how this stuff has healed people with stage 4 (terminal) cancer...

One of my old pastors at a church I used to go to has a similar story - 'cept it was his father who had the stage 4 cancer. Doctors gave him 2 weeks to live. So the father tells the doctors that he expects he is going to make a full recovery (faith in God, all that BS)... So the doctor tells the father he's crazy blah blah blah...

The father listens to this radio show (church on the radio kinda shit), and the guy on the radio is going on about how "god" is laying it on his heart that someone is in need of healing, and that this person should pray with him. So the cancer guy puts his hand on the radio and prays with the radio guy.... And guess what... His cancer miraculously disappears (this story IS legit, btw).

So I guess prayer is the cure for cancer, too??? Or the radio... That's it... The radio cured his cancer!!! Or maybe that flying zombie carpenter guy who never actually existed to begin with cured his cancer??

Stage 4 cancer patients DO survive sometimes... And the doctors have no way of explaining it. So just because someone had stage 4 cancer, took this oil, and lived - does not necessarily mean that it was the oil that cured him/her. Just like it wasn't Jesus, or the radio, or prayer that cured my old pastor's father.

[captaincheez]

Originally Posted by IGotTheCottons

Stage 4 cancer patients DO survive sometimes... And the doctors have no way of explaining it. So just because someone had stage 4 cancer, took this oil, and lived - does not necessarily mean that it was the oil that cured him/her. Just like it wasn't Jesus, or the radio, or prayer that cured my old pastor's father.

exactly. Research is needed to see what effects cannabis has on cancer, and a multitude of other diseases. This doesn't mean that it's not effective at all, nor does it mean that it cures every disease on the planet.

Right now, it is a powerful tool in helping patients take their medication, keep it down, and get the munchies so they'll eat and not waste away. It can and does save lives.

[trawepale]

yup more research is definitely needed to determine exactly what and how cannabinoids affect in our body, but so far it has shown anti-cancerous activity just check this out
SETH



edit. cannabis does cure cancer and there are studies to suggest this as it does activate apoptosis(cell self death) and autophagy in gliomas(brain cancer- a deadly and aggressive cancer)

http://www.safeaccess.ca/research/pd...liomas2008.pdf

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

[IGotTheCottons]

Originally Posted by captaincheez

exactly. Research is needed to see what effects cannabis has on cancer, and a multitude of other diseases. This doesn't mean that it's not effective at all, nor does it mean that it cures every disease on the planet.

Right now, it is a powerful tool in helping patients take their medication, keep it down, and get the munchies so they'll eat and not waste away. It can and does save lives.

No argument from me there

Originally Posted by trawepale

yup more research is definitely needed to determine exactly what and how cannabinoids affect in our body, but so far it has shown anti-cancerous activity just check this out
SETH



edit. cannabis does cure cancer and there are studies to suggest this as it does activate apoptosis(cell self death) and autophagy in gliomas(brain cancer- a deadly and aggressive cancer)

http://www.safeaccess.ca/research/pd...liomas2008.pdf

Journal of Clinical Investigation -- Cannabinoid action induces autophagy-mediated cell death through stimulation of ER stress in human glioma cells

I know that cannabis has been shown effective in treating tumors (by preventing the blood vessels that feed the tumor, and also by promoting regular cell death).

I'm not claiming that cannabis has no affect on it. I'm just saying that it's not a cure-all, and that more research needs to be done.