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Old 02-10-2009, 04:58 AM
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Re: Marijuana Linked to Aggressive Testicular Cancer

I hate how in all threads that try to teach or warn people on the negativity of marijuana, almost everyone posts shit like "BS" and "That can't be true!"

Fucking open your eyes people.



As for my opinion I believe it is possible but just from reading this it hasn't really convinced me.
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"Since we know that the incidence of testicular cancer has been rising in our country and in Europe over the last 40 years and that marijuana use has also risen over the same time, it seemed logical that there might be an association between the two,"
Wow, that's hardly evidence. Correlation doesn't necessarily equal causation.
 
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Re: Marijuana Linked to Aggressive Testicular Cancer

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I hate how in all threads that try to teach or warn people on the negativity of marijuana, almost everyone posts shit like "BS" and "That can't be true!"

Fucking open your eyes people.



As for my opinion I believe it is possible but just from reading this it hasn't really convinced me.
Maybe because this is completely fabricated evidence that was conducted on people that would have gotten testicular cancer anyways without the help of marijuana?

Everyone knows the cons of smoking marijuana, they are obvious.
Memory loss, weight gain (munchies), laziness and of course the negative effects of smoke.
However there are NO CARCINOGENIC PROPERTIES OF CANNABIS.

Open your eyes to the lies you are digesting like a fat kid gorging on a chocolate cake.
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Re: Marijuana Linked to Aggressive Testicular Cancer

Wow people! don't panic!

I think the OP may have just been passing along some info he stumbled across.

It just shows how a there may be a possible link an that more studies need to be done. If it proves to increase risk of testy cancer then possibly we could isolate a molecule other than THC that increases risk and through breeding we could come up with strains with less of it.

Personally I like it when we increase our knowledge of all things MJ. I'd like to see some follow up.

Also like to see more studies on the positive effects of MJ.
 
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:33 PM
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Re: Marijuana Linked to Aggressive Testicular Cancer

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Maybe because this is completely fabricated evidence that was conducted on people that would have gotten testicular cancer anyways without the help of marijuana?
What part of the study are you so confident is fabricated? Are you just talking out of your ass here?

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Everyone knows the cons of smoking marijuana, they are obvious.
Memory loss, weight gain (munchies), laziness and of course the negative effects of smoke.
However there are NO CARCINOGENIC PROPERTIES OF CANNABIS.
"Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens."
http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/

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Old 02-10-2009, 09:34 PM
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I hate how in all threads that try to teach or warn people on the negativity of marijuana, almost everyone posts shit like "BS" and "That can't be true!"
Yes, it's funny how defensive people get over any study that may potentially suggest negative effects from smoking weed.
 
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:42 PM
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What part of the study are you so confident is fabricated? Are you just talking out of your ass here?


"Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens."
http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/


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Uh maybe because the study didn't actually prove that it was linked to testicular cancer?
Maybe you should read what you're posting thoroughly..

"Since we know that the incidence of testicular cancer has been rising in our country and in Europe over the last 40 years and that marijuana use has also risen over the same time, it seemed logical that there might be an association between the two,"
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Wow that's a great hypothesis, guess what? Alcohol use, fast food consumption, narcotic use (such as cocaine, heroin, etc.), and over-exposure to various hormone-affecting things (such as florescent lights) has also increased!
Children are experiencing puberty at extremely young ages never before seen in history.
That is what happens when you introduce thousands upon thousands of new chemicals into a human's lifestyle.


Participants were between the ages of 18 and 44, most were white or Hispanic, and all were residents of the Seattle-Puget Sound region. All had been diagnosed with the disease between 1999 and 2006. The men reported any history of marijuana use, as well as alcohol and smoking habits, and the same information was collected from about 1,000 healthy men.

The researchers found that current marijuana use was linked to a 70 percent increased risk for the disease.
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Wow that's a brilliant study. Study 1000 men in the same region with testicular cancer, see if they have smoked marijuana and then conclude that marijuana must be the cause of the cancer? How come they have shown no scientific proof in this article about how they reached the conclusion that it was marijuana alone and not alcohol and smoking habits?

If you actually read the article carefully..
There was no actual link between marijuana ALONE and testicular cancer!
Wow amazing!

And for your point on marijuana containing carcinogenic agents..
Well you're wrong there too.
That only applies to marijuana SMOKE.
Smoke contains carcinogens obviously..
The marijuana itself does not.
If you intake cannabis without smoking it you will get no carcinogens.
(Edibles or Vaporizer)

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So please, don't post radical claims like this without actually looking into the claim.
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Re: Marijuana Linked to Aggressive Testicular Cancer

it could be the chemical fertilizers used to grow most bud...
 
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Re: Marijuana Linked to Aggressive Testicular Cancer

What most people don't realize, is that testicular cancer is still a heavily researched topic. We don't know a whole lot about it, what exactly causes it or a surefire cure. Now with that in mind, the original article serves as just a theory. Some scientist probably just noticed the correlating numbers and put two and two together. This isn't any sort of official statement or anything of the likes.


To sum it up: It is theorized that marijuana is related to testicular cancer. Not proved, or anywhere close.
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Same shit happens to me, i think its the lighter. One time I was smoking cashout (mostly cashed bowls that i collect and smoke when i dont have chron) and i lit it and it exploded and went everwhere. I dont know what that was but I really want a cheeseburger, maybe a double. I'm gonna go make one.

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Re: Marijuana Linked to Aggressive Testicular Cancer

Feed me more!!! I want my balls to fall off
 
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Re: Marijuana Linked to Aggressive Testicular Cancer

100% complete bullshit! how the fuck do you associate marijuana with testicular cancer when marijuana is used in the treatment of other cancers???????? and of all the different body parts they could have chosen to bullshit on, they chose the one precious body part of us men, our balls!

i hope i dont catch who ever concocted this sorry escuse of a "Scientific study", i think i will be doing mankind a favor by punching them straight in the face!
who the fuck prints this bullshit!!!!
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Re: Marijuana Linked to Aggressive Testicular Cancer

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I read the article on CNN today, and there was a 6% difference in their findings. 20% vs 26%...



Not even close to a conclusive difference in such a small sample pool. The error due to misinformation and obfuscation alone cancel out a 6% margin.
^From another forum. I thought I'd re-post it here.

The truth is that there probably are some health risks associated with MJ use. No one is blind to that fact. The simple fact that there hasn't really been a huge amount of testing on the subject arouses some worries in most normal people.

However, innocent until proven guilty is the basis of our legal system. The fact that no one can conclusively state that it causes X or Y is grounds in my mind for a reconsideration of policy regarding marijuana. Hopefully we have a man in the white house now who will make that happen, but we'll see how it unfolds.

From what I can gather, what the researchers did here is take a group of men and separate them into categories of cancer/no cancer and pot/no pot. That's not even science. That's a survey.
 
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you know what decreases your risk of getting testicular cancer?

beating off.

just sayin'...

lol thats not true is it?

if so im fucking immune....
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:11 AM
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Re: Marijuana Linked to Aggressive Testicular Cancer

I say good looking bro, But...

I CALL Bs!

After reading through all that man it seems as though to be just another political scandal in action against us in the "War on Drugs" aka "War on Pot". They're gonna say whatever they're gonna have to say to encourage as many off us as they can to step down. I say Fuck That, all they got on us is some really crappy couinsidences(<-- Def. spelled that wrong). I mean fuck if Marijuana would screw you over that bad, well then how about Tobacco? you know? the shits got arsenic in it man.


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