From What I've Noticed, A Medical No No For Reefer

[skapunker1337]

and in recent news, my bipolar brother sold all of my xbox 360 games for pot. aka, he stole them. yeah.

Originally Posted by BubbleFunker

from hwhobbs: On the other hand, cannabis HAS been proven to be a major risk factor if you have a biological history for mental disorders. If someone like your aunt or grandfather has manic depression or schitzophrenia, there is a very good likelyhood that weed will speed up the onset of the disorder if you smoke enough.

Please show me the proof. I have studied all the available research/studies, of which there are very few, and none of them are conclusive, and all of them are flawed studies. If you have proof, meaning a credible, evidence based paper of this, please show me. Most of the studies tried to demonstrate a causal relationship, but could not. Either their study group was too small, or they relied only on self report from those same small groups. You'd have to have some knowledge of scientific research protocol to know what I mean, perhaps. Most people merely see a headline, and assume they know what the study is about, but know nothing of how it was done, or how to interpret the results.
In all the studies, the words "may" "possibly" show up. There was never any definitive, absolutely positive correlation or causal relationship proven, that I saw.
I'm a scientist, prove me incorrect.
The anti-cannabis people keep trying to find some horrid thing wrong with cannabis, but have had fuck-all of a time doing so.
All the meds on the market, ones approved by the FDA, have "side-effects" and warn people of them. Cannabis need only do that as well.
Side-effects include: "possible" increase in mania, intense hunger, intense thoughtfulness, ability to be easily amused, sleepiness, distortion or augmentation of sound, intense relaxation, . . . . etc.

But never death, or any of the many heinous things I hear daily in the TV ads for supposedly benign medications.
Almost all medications on the market can kill you, or make your life crappy in some other way then the way your illness did.
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BubbleFunker, in some ways you're right... there is no written documents that state that marijuana will cause schizophrenia or any other mental disorder. what I'm saying is that it is a RISK FACTOR meaning if you abuse it and you have a family history, there is a good likelyhood you will develop a disorder. This is what happened in my case.

My only sources are multiple psychiatrists, pyscho-pharmacologists, and psychologists and Mass General Hospital and Harvard's Psychiatric Hospital called McLean hospital. I don't get my information from reading or anything, just personal experience... that's all I can say.

I love to smoke weed, I am in no way condemning it, I just want other people like me to know what's out there, and if you can, grow your own shit because its better like that.

[Lebowski]

It may help, but please, Consider on a case-to-case basis.

It may help some, but do harm to others with the same conditions. If it helps use it, if it doesnt leave it alone.

btw: are you a younger sibling? Will make it harder to get the money for the games back. Thats really not cool. Do something about it if you can.

[alicedee07]

If it helps him, it helps him. If it doesn't, it doesn't. The effects of cannabis is what a person makes of it. It varies greatly from person to person, regardless of what their condition is.

[KittensOnPCP]

Talk him in to getting a new strain with high CBN (I think it is) the full-body high type for him when he is manic, and a upbeat-type strain for when he is depressed. I have Bi-polar but it's usually controlled with meds, when i'm out of meds, my dealer keeps two strains for me. I don't have a medical card, nor is medical even availible here, but they seem to work for me.

[Lebowski]

Originally Posted by KittensOnPCP

Talk him in to getting a new strain with high CBN (I think it is) the full-body high type for him when he is manic, and a upbeat-type strain for when he is depressed. I have Bi-polar but it's usually controlled with meds, when i'm out of meds, my dealer keeps two strains for me. I don't have a medical card, nor is medical even availible here, but they seem to work for me.

I think you're thinking of CBD (cannabidiol).
CBD is a wonderful molecule. It is non psycoative (doesn't make you feel high), yet it has significant analgesic properties (relaxation, pain relief).
Strains high in CBD are hard to find, my dispensary caries a great one called Affie, the mother of LA confidential. Affie is really fucking rare, so im very happy to have it.
I use affie to study, fact I just smoked some because i am studying right now . It calms and relaxes me, without clouding my thoughts and making me feel high. The calming aspect lets me concentrate really well, and i get less side tracked when studying.

If bi-polar disorder is like I think, mainly a thought process problem, I do think high CBD strains would work, although in LOW doses, if you smoke too much you feel high, then very sedated, it still contains an amount of THC.

Ask your dispensary about CBD and strains that carry it, hopefully they're knowledgable.

Also keep in mind like I said, low doses. This could be problematic if your brother smokes weed with the goal of getting high. Low doses provide the most beneficial aspects of the medication, with the least amount of negative or debilitating side effects.
For studying I take 1 or 2 hits of affie, and my tolerance is high, and its fucking really well grown:

Affie

[BubbleFunker]

It's all case by case, when it comes to any medication. Not everyone can take aspirin, right?

[thosevacanteyes]

Originally Posted by jennyb21671

my father has glaucoma how does mmj help people with glaucoma? and what is a good way that i could suggest mmj to him?

taken from http://www.marijuana-as-medicine.org...nce/facts.html It should answer your question.

Marijuana has shown promise as a possible glaucoma treatment in numerous published studies. In controlled studies at UCLA, it was discovered that patients smoking marijuana experienced, on average, a 30% drop in eye pressure. The reduction was dose related and lasted 4 to 5 hours. Dr. Robert Hepler, principal investigator in the UCLA study, concluded that cannabis may be more useful than conventional medications and may reduce eye pressure in a way that conventional medications do not, thus making marijuana a potential additive to the glaucoma patient's regimen of available medication.
Tolerance to conventional medications is a common problem in glaucoma control. The use of marijuana for additional IOP reduction could eliminate the need for surgical intervention. Glaucoma surgery costs Americans an estimated $8.8 million per year.
Scientists have been working to develop a marijuana eyedrop for several years. Until recently, they concentrated on delta-9-THC, marijuana's psychoactive ingredient. Some researchers, however, have begun to wonder if other constituents in the cannabis plant might be more effective in reducing IOP. This theory is bolstered by the few glaucoma patients who have continued, legal access to marijuana. In these cases, synthetic THC is only effective for a short period of time. Natural marijuana, however, consistently lowers IOP.

http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/19687/

thought i should share that... it pretty much sums up everything talked about in this thread. it can work on a case-by-case basis.

[alice D]

i think that is somthing that mt be evaluated on a case by case bases. Not that i dont think their are many positives. I have a friend who is bi-polar, you could hardl tell he has it if hes smokin every day but if deprived the bi-polernis kicks in double time

[IGotTheCottons]

Originally Posted by hwhobbs

I have schitzo-affective disorder, which is a combination of manic-depression and schitzophrenia and marijuana only worsens my symptoms. I am growing some pure indica right now to see if that will be compatible but so far, like skapunker says, weed only exacerbates mental disorders.

I believe only someone who is suffering from a disorder should be the only ones who can provide credible feedback. I'm sure some people with OCD or a condition like mine are fine on weed, but personally it only makes my symptoms worse.

edit: I also agree with you BubbleFunker because it has a lot to do with that specific person's biology. I think sativas have more of a tendecy to fuck with your head if you have a mental disorder, which is why I grow pure indica.

On the other hand, cannabis HAS been proven to be a major risk factor if you have a biological history for mental disorders. If someone like your aunt or grandfather has manic depression or schitzophrenia, there is a very good likelyhood that weed will speed up the onset of the disorder if you smoke enough.

Not at all..

http://forum.grasscity.com/general/1...ml#post1755314

It can trigger it if you already have the disease, but it does not cause it.

I have bi-polar and manic-depression, and smoking weed throughout the day keeps me level. If I smoke too much or too little I'm not a pleasant person to be around... Basically, ya just gotta find the amount that's right for you.

If you have schitzophrenia, then you shouldn't smoke weed, really.

[emagdnim13]

Everyone's different...some people just don't like smoking weed.

My friend has anxiety, and she doesn't smoke because on the rare occasion that she does, she gets crazy anxiety.

Originally Posted by IGotTheCottons

Not at all..

http://forum.grasscity.com/general/1...ml#post1755314

It can trigger it if you already have the disease, but it does not cause it.

I have bi-polar and manic-depression, and smoking weed throughout the day keeps me level. If I smoke too much or too little I'm not a pleasant person to be around... Basically, ya just gotta find the amount that's right for you.

If you have schitzophrenia, then you shouldn't smoke weed, really.

Exactly what I was saying, its a risk factor, it doesn't cause a disorder, it only makes it apparent or triggers it.