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tokasmoka · #1 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 05:14 PM

"In 1997, 63% of registered Florida voters said they favor approving an amendment to the Florida Constitution legalizing "medicinal" marijuana"- http://www.mpp.org/states/florida/
if America is really a democracy shouldn't medicinal weed be legal??? pretty fucked up. Does anyone know any pro-legalization groups in FL?

effektz · #2 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 05:17 PM

I think America is more of a Republic than a Democracy.

These two forms of government: Democracy and Republic, are not only dissimilar but antithetical, reflecting the sharp contrast between (a) The Majority Unlimited, in a Democracy, lacking any legal safeguard of the rights of The Individual and The Minority, and (b) The Majority Limited, in a Republic under a written Constitution safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority; as we shall now see.

The word "democracy" appears nowhere in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution – two most fundamental documents of our nation. Instead of a democracy, the Constitution's Article IV, Section 4, guarantees "to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government." Moreover, let's ask ourselves: Does our pledge of allegiance to the flag say to "the democracy for which it stands," or does it say to "the republic for which it stands"?

tokasmoka · #3 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by effektz

"the democracy for which it stands," or does it say to "the republic for which it stands"?

good point.

Salvial · #4 (**permalink**) 03-30-2008, 06:47 AM

"Do you want the puppet on the left, or the puppet on the right?"

I'll opt for neither.

Rhythm of Life · #5 (**permalink**) 03-30-2008, 06:53 AM

Well American never was a democracy and isn't to this day. We are a Democratic Republic. but really read Machiavelli's The Circle of Governments and then you'll realize it makes no difference.

scoobydooby67 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-30-2008, 07:21 AM

fuck no, we are a Republic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhythm of Life

Well American never was a democracy and isn't to this day. We are a Democratic Republic. but really read Machiavelli's The Circle of Governments and then you'll realize it makes no difference.

wait, it makes a huge difference,

ill have to admit i sparknoted that book in highschool.

but a democracy would be amazing if it could work in real life.

ciao stupido · #7 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 04:16 AM

my history teacher said this before, as he's always said it... "We like to Teach Democracy, but we Live in a Republic." Two very big differences. Although if you think about it, a modern Democracy might be more plauseable now then it did before with the advent of the internet and such, now everyone has a voice.

LordChronicx · #8 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 04:48 AM

Constitutional Republic, to be 100% accurate.

spyboarder6996 · #9 (**permalink**) 04-10-2008, 08:57 AM

i honestly dont think its a democratic or republic nation the government will do as it pleases wether we like it or not

Chronitron · #10 (**permalink**) 04-11-2008, 08:40 AM

This thread quickly turned from looking for MMJ help in FL to politics. Not that I'm not all for a good political discussion. I would try NORML bud. Also ASA and CAN and MPP

calicheese23 · #11 (**permalink**) 04-14-2008, 12:39 AM

There will never be a true democracy in America. The framers of our constitution were very much against "mob rule".

Check out these links though for some info on NORML chapters at campuses in Florida
http://www.normlucf.com/Norml/Home.html
http://www.faunorml.org/

INS the Rebel · #12 (**permalink**) 04-14-2008, 04:03 AM

guys i think we'll find that the more we learn about the subject the more we'll realize that it doesnt matter

w33n · #13 (**permalink**) 04-14-2008, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobydooby67

fuck no, we are a Republic.

wait, it makes a huge difference,

ill have to admit i sparknoted that book in highschool.

but a democracy would be amazing if it could work in real life.

A democracy would be anything but great. Too many people in the US are close-minded hypocrites who feel their "morals" should be forced upon the whole population. How about we forget about being governed and regulated and remember the golden rule - Do no harm.

aaronman · #14 (**permalink**) 04-14-2008, 08:44 PM

A democracy is 51% telling the other 49% how to live their lives. Do you really want that?

We aren't really a Republic either, seeing as we don't respect our constitutional laws. We are in the American governmental period of Oligarchical Corporatism

"Unknown One" · #15 (**permalink**) 04-16-2008, 09:26 AM

Lupe Fiasco a part of "American Terrorist"

It's like
don't give the black man food, give red man liquor
red man fool, black man *****
give yellow man tool, make him railroad builda
also give him pan, make him pull gold from river give black man crack, glocks to teens, give red man
craps, slot machines...

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#1 (permalink) 03-29-2008, 05:14 PM
tokasmoka after school special Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: clouds Posts: 396	is America REALLY a democracy? "In 1997, 63% of registered Florida voters said they favor approving an amendment to the Florida Constitution legalizing "medicinal" marijuana"- http://www.mpp.org/states/florida/ if America is really a democracy shouldn't medicinal weed be legal??? pretty fucked up. Does anyone know any pro-legalization groups in FL? __________________

#2 (permalink) 03-29-2008, 05:17 PM
effektz Toking Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colofornia Posts: 623	I think America is more of a Republic than a Democracy. These two forms of government: Democracy and Republic, are not only dissimilar but antithetical, reflecting the sharp contrast between (a) The Majority Unlimited, in a Democracy, lacking any legal safeguard of the rights of The Individual and The Minority, and (b) The Majority Limited, in a Republic under a written Constitution safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority; as we shall now see. The word "democracy" appears nowhere in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution – two most fundamental documents of our nation. Instead of a democracy, the Constitution's Article IV, Section 4, guarantees "to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government." Moreover, let's ask ourselves: Does our pledge of allegiance to the flag say to "the democracy for which it stands," or does it say to "the republic for which it stands"? __________________ SmokeWeed.me - World news and information about cannabis laws. Last edited by effektz; 03-29-2008 at 05:23 PM.

#4 (permalink) 03-30-2008, 06:47 AM
Salvial Atoms For Peace Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,059	"Do you want the puppet on the left, or the puppet on the right?" I'll opt for neither. __________________ Embrace this moment, remember, We are eternal - all this pain is an illusion.

#5 (permalink) 03-30-2008, 06:53 AM
Rhythm of Life My glass is Raised Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,811	Well American never was a democracy and isn't to this day. We are a Democratic Republic. but really read Machiavelli's The Circle of Governments and then you'll realize it makes no difference.

#7 (permalink) 04-02-2008, 04:16 AM
ciao stupido Stoner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cannaland Posts: 108	my history teacher said this before, as he's always said it... "We like to Teach Democracy, but we Live in a Republic." Two very big differences. Although if you think about it, a modern Democracy might be more plauseable now then it did before with the advent of the internet and such, now everyone has a voice.

#8 (permalink) 04-02-2008, 04:48 AM
LordChronicx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SD Posts: 292	Constitutional Republic, to be 100% accurate.

#9 (permalink) 04-10-2008, 08:57 AM
spyboarder6996 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 131	i honestly dont think its a democratic or republic nation the government will do as it pleases wether we like it or not

#10 (permalink) 04-11-2008, 08:40 AM
Chronitron Dr. Greenthumb Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: State of Jefferson Posts: 606 Blog Entries: 19	This thread quickly turned from looking for MMJ help in FL to politics. Not that I'm not all for a good political discussion. I would try NORML bud. Also ASA and CAN and MPP

#11 (permalink) 04-14-2008, 12:39 AM
calicheese23 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Posts: 610	There will never be a true democracy in America. The framers of our constitution were very much against "mob rule". Check out these links though for some info on NORML chapters at campuses in Florida http://www.normlucf.com/Norml/Home.html http://www.faunorml.org/ __________________ Rick Simpson. GC read this! Last edited by calicheese23; 04-14-2008 at 12:41 AM.

#12 (permalink) 04-14-2008, 04:03 AM
INS the Rebel Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 690	guys i think we'll find that the more we learn about the subject the more we'll realize that it doesnt matter

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#14 (permalink) 04-14-2008, 08:44 PM
aaronman Hemp Activist Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Connecticut... Posts: 1,737	A democracy is 51% telling the other 49% how to live their lives. Do you really want that? We aren't really a Republic either, seeing as we don't respect our constitutional laws. We are in the American governmental period of Oligarchical Corporatism

#15 (permalink) 04-16-2008, 09:26 AM
"Unknown One" "Unknown One" Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: City Posts: 134	Lupe Fiasco a part of "American Terrorist" It's like don't give the black man food, give red man liquor red man fool, black man ***** give yellow man tool, make him railroad builda also give him pan, make him pull gold from river give black man crack, glocks to teens, give red man craps, slot machines...