Reg or Fem Seeds?

Ive bought female seeds in the past an i would say out of 7 probably about 4 ended up being hermies...... So my question is really whats the difference between regular seeds an feminized seeds? I hear Fem seeds are harder to clone is there any truth to this?


Would anybody say that they favor one over the other or that one is better than the other?

Regular seeds

or

Feminized seeds

Buy from better breeders if your getting a 60% herm rate that has nothing to do with feminized seeds. I favor feminized because I only grow one plant at a time and can't be bothered wasting over a month to just throw out a male.

I normally stick with quality breeders.... Barneys farm, Bc Bud Depot, Cali Connection, Dna Genetics, G13 labs, Next Generation, Reserve Privada, Sensi, Soma, Th Seeds....

Anybody have anything negative to say about any of those seedbanks?

I have got to be messing up somewhere....
I tried taking clones from the feminized plants an they looked alright for the first couple days but they just wilted over an died I've tried Root gel an Powder no luck with either

So i know ive read that its generally more difficult to clone fem seeds but ive also read its no different....
I'm thinkin that it could possible have something to do with it an i would really like to have 2 mothers constant... I think im going to get reg seeds but can anybody give me anymore info/help? Would greatly be appreciated

I normally stick with quality breeders.... Barneys farm, Bc Bud Depot, Cali Connection, Dna Genetics, G13 labs, Next Generation, Reserve Privada, Sensi, Soma, Th Seeds....

Anybody have anything negative to say about any of those seedbanks?

I have got to be messing up somewhere....
I tried taking clones from the feminized plants an they looked alright for the first couple days but they just wilted over an died I've tried Root gel an Powder no luck with either

So i know ive read that its generally more difficult to clone fem seeds but ive also read its no different....
I'm thinkin that it could possible have something to do with it an i would really like to have 2 mothers constant... I think im going to get reg seeds but can anybody give me anymore info/help? Would greatly be appreciated

G13 labs carries a strain that's the exact same as a strain from white label seeds, purple haze. They even used the same picture for advertising, but they changed the original picture from green to purple and changed the background. I havnt heard much negative feedback about their genetics... but still thats pretty uncool. I've also heard some complaints about th seeds turning out hermie, but I havnt grown out any of their gear so idk.

I normally stick with quality breeders.... Barneys farm, Bc Bud Depot, Cali Connection, Dna Genetics, G13 labs, Next Generation, Reserve Privada, Sensi, Soma, Th Seeds....

Anybody have anything negative to say about any of those seedbanks?

I have got to be messing up somewhere....
I tried taking clones from the feminized plants an they looked alright for the first couple days but they just wilted over an died I've tried Root gel an Powder no luck with either

So i know ive read that its generally more difficult to clone fem seeds but ive also read its no different....
I'm thinkin that it could possible have something to do with it an i would really like to have 2 mothers constant... I think im going to get reg seeds but can anybody give me anymore info/help? Would greatly be appreciated

seedbanks I use are ..Herbies, The Attitude, Groshop Alien, Gyspy Nirvana, Sannies

breeders you listed I love .. Next Gen. , Cali. Connection, DNA/RP ,



if your clones are wilting you need more humidity . get a dome..

fem seeds, reg seeds .............both clone same.

you could try spraying your clones with the stuff that stops transpiration water loss, same stuff used on christmas trees to stop needle loss. vinyl based, works really good. or a dome is just as easy.

Whats the big difference between reg seeds an fem seeds then? Dont reg seeds grow into sturdier stronger less problematic plants?

If your looking for ah mother plant go reg if not then go fem. Check the strain you want too grow out see if it has hermie problems.

Why does he say this?

Whats the big difference between reg seeds an fem seeds then? Dont reg seeds grow into sturdier stronger less problematic plants?

No. The difference is that feminized seeds don't produce males. That's all. Feminized seeds are great as mother plants or for serial cloning, equal to 'regular' females. A 'regular' female can hermie as readily as a feminized female - the genes for feminized or regular females are indistinguishable.

If you're having problems with hermies, it's likely you're stressing the plants. Same goes for your cloning attempts.

Edited by MauiSon, 25 January 2012 - 02:18 AM.

No. The difference is that feminized seeds don't produce males. That's all. Feminized seeds are great as mother plants or for serial cloning, equal to 'regular' females. A 'regular' female can hermie as readily as a feminized female - the genes for feminized or regular females are indistinguishable.

If you're having problems with hermies, it's likely you're stressing the plants. Same goes for your cloning attempts.

Ok well still no answer to my question.....
There has got to be a reason why the guy above says if i want a mother plant go reg if not go female... Why does he say this?

With my cloning im pretty sure my humidity is my problem so i will be getting a humidity dome an well take another shot at it....

My biggest beef with fems is no breeder does em themselves.. all are outsourced.

Wharfrat74 do you use reg or fem seeds? All ive bought in the past is feminized but there are some strains that i really want that are only available in reg seed form? i figured buy 4-5 of each bound to get atleast 1 female which is all i need then take clones?

I just need some advice from my fellow blades/bladettes to help me further my decision making

My line-up is as follows

Tga subcool- Querkle
Bc Bud Depot - God Bud
Sensi - Skunk #1

Anything bad about these Breeders/Strains? All are reg seeds like I said i will buy 4-5 of each hoping to get atleast 1 female out of each strain? You think?

Wharfrat74 do you use reg or fem seeds? All ive bought in the past is feminized but there are some strains that i really want that are only available in reg seed form? i figured buy 4-5 of each bound to get atleast 1 female which is all i need then take clones?

I just need some advice from my fellow blades/bladettes to help me further my decision making

both , just depends on situation and whether the strain I want is in whatever form.

I prefer regulars , that way I can make seeds ( mothers do/can die) and not have to purchase twice.

some companies I just will not buy from. ( not going to list, cause it starts arguments)

Plus it seems the best strains, come from breeders who do regs only ( ie. : Mr. Nice, Subcool, Mandala, TRS, Gage Green, Alphakronik, Destiny, Reservior, KOS, OgRaskal, and until recently Cali-Con.)

just one thing you should rememebr .. seeds are not carbon copies of their parents ( no more then you are).. there is variety .so the more seeds you pop the better selection you get to find that A+ Mother....it is always a numbers game.

and On that note .. regs allow you to make a set of F1's. Further increasing your chances of getting that perfect mother. ( a touch more difficult that just "one sentence" , to do, but anyone can do it IMHO)

my .02
Wharf

I understand completely i feel the same way that i just wont buy from certain breeders...

When you buy your reg seeds what percentage turns out female?

I prefer regulars , that way I can make seeds ( mothers do/can die) and not have to purchase twice.

some companies I just will not buy from. ( not going to list, cause it starts arguments)

Plus it seems the best strains, come from breeders who do regs only ( ie. : Mr. Nice, Subcool, Mandala, TRS, Gage Green, Alphakronik, Destiny, Reservior, KOS, OgRaskal, and until recently Cali-Con.)

Wharf

OP, you can take this to the bank! I am more opinionated than most here on the 'fem vs reg' debate. I like regular seeds, they hermie proportionally less by far, they are more stable to work with, seed, clone and double back, and the best breeders don't breed with hermie pollen in the first place! In my opinion, playing with hermie pollen(higher rate of hermie genetics than 'normal' for regular seeds), and trying to keep it in just one area of plants for female seed making, is like putting a pissed off skunk in a paperbag... your going to get shot with skunk gis no mater how you hold the top shut! Somehow, somewhere, you will install some hermie genes in your regular stock if you 'dabble' in fems. Go with regular seed stock, it's the best stock, doesn't have the same hermie potential because someone took the time to try and weed that out for you, and you will have better clones and more options down the road.

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I ♥ pollen talk :p

When you buy your reg seeds what percentage turns out female?

I really really do not want to answer this, for fear of cursing my next dozen or so grows.. but I'd say 6-7 females per pack

(1) ...they hermie proportionally less by far,
(2) they are more stable to work with, seed, clone and double back,
(3) and the best breeders don't breed with hermie pollen in the first place!

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The rest is your opinion, with no bearing on facts. Every female is capable of producing pollen, every female. A breeder cannot breed out hermies - it's not possible.

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The rest is your opinion, with no bearing on facts. Every female is capable of producing pollen, every female. A breeder cannot breed out hermies - it's not possible.

sure if you stress em .. but that is on the grower, NOT the breeder.

stable strains you gotta work to get to hermie..hence the "stable" part. getting "homogeneous phenotypes" is for shit if they all toss stamens.

My stable strains ( S.S., Q.T., J.H.,Coco K, N.L. ) take more then a couple hours of extra light to drop an arm off of their Xs .

and to prove the facts ( in my mind atleast ) my unstable cuts that I have used fems for ( Vanilla Kush & BBxWW crosses) .. they pop nanners if they see the bloody moon. I have also yet to see a Dinafem or G13 ever go "75 % amber" ( past prime, I know ) with out tossing at least one stamen, if not a few full sacs on the base. BUt I'll be damned if I can get one of TGA's strains to hermie by the Soma Rodelization Method ( which he doesn't use himself BTW.. he is a fan of CS)....

Wharf