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No Bath Salts, Only Marijuana Found In Face-Eater Toxicology Tests

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Rudy Eugene: No Bath Salts, Only Marijuana Found In Face-Eater Toxicology Tests (VIDEO, PHOTOS)


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It wasn't bath salts.
According to a full toxicology report released Wednesday afternoon by the Miami-Dade medical examiner, the only drug detected in the lifeless body of infamous Miami face-chewer Rudy Eugene was marijuana.
"The department's toxicology laboratory has identified the active components of marijuana," the medical examiner said in a statement, according to NBC Miami. "The laboratory has tested for but not detected any other street drugs, alcohol or prescription drugs...This includes cocaine, LSD, amphetamines (Extasy, Meth and others), phencyclidine (PCP or Angel Dust), heroin, oxycodone, Xanax, synthetic marijuana (Spice), and many other similar compounds."
The medical examiner's office had a second forensic toxicology lab confirm the absence of common ingredients of bath salts, a synthetic amphetamine cocktail blamed in several recent incidents that bear some similarity to Eugene's attack.
"Within the limits of current technology by both laboratories," stated the press release from Medical Examiner Dr. Bruce Hyma, "marijuana is the only drug identified in the body of Mr. Rudy Eugene."
The report did not address previously reported autopsy findings of what appeared to be undigested pills in Eugene's stomach, according to the Miami Herald, and an expert told the Associate Press marijuana alone was not likely to cause such an attack:

"The problem today is that there is an almost an infinite number of chemical substances out there that can trigger unusual behavior," said Dr. Bruce Goldberger, Professor and Director of Toxicology at the University of Florida. Goldberger said that the medical examiner's office in Miami is known for doing thorough work and that he's confident they and the independent lab covered as much ground as possible. But it's nearly impossible for toxicology testing to keep pace with new formulations of synthetic drugs.
"...The challenge today for the toxicology lab is to stay on top of these new chemicals and develop methodologies for them, but it's very difficult and very expensive." Goldberger said. "There is no one test or combination of tests that can detect every possible substance out there."

The medical examiner's office did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Eugene, 31, was widely speculated to have been on some form of synthetic drugs or suffering a drug-induced psychosis the afternoon of May 26 when he stripped naked and brutally attacked homeless resident Ronald Poppo in broad daylight along Miami's busy MacArthur Causeway, chewing and ripping off roughly half of the older man's face.
A police officer responding to multiple 911 calls shot and killed Eugene as he crouched over Poppo, reportedly refusing to stop the gruesome assault by growling at the officer with Poppo's flesh in his mouth.
The 18-minute attack and its aftermath were captured on surveillance video from the Miami Herald's parking garage, but it is still unknown what prompted Eugene to commit such a horrific crime.
According to Local10, the former North Miami Beach High School football player was once diagnosed as schizophrenic after an arrest, but authorities are not sure if he ever sought treatment.
Records show Eugene had been arrested 8 times since the age of 16, including 4 instances involving marijuana. But though he was once accused of threatening to kill his mother, friends and family members alike say they never expected such violence from Eugene, who was participating in a Bible study, reading the Koran, and telling friends he wanted to stop smoking marijuana.
"There's no answer for it, not really," Eugene's younger brother, Marckenson Charles, told the AP. "Anybody who knew him knows this wasn't the person we knew him to be. Whatever triggered him, there is no answer for this."
Poppo, meanwhile, is doing "well," according to doctors at Jackson Memorial Hospital's Ryder Trauma Center. The 65-year-old has lost one eye, is missing his nose, and faces a string of surgeries to repair his wounds and reconstruct his face.
"We have mental health professionals to help him with the coping, and he's coping remarkably well," said plastic surgeon Dr. Wrood Kassira.

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wow this is just going to make people think that weed is more harmful than they already think . this is not going to help the legalization at all

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Dude there Is like 5 threads about this already.

But in my opinion, I think people are over reacting. No body has said marijuana caused this, just that's what they found in his system.

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It was not marijuana.

How can you get high and crawl around like a dog even in the first place.

Let alone start chewing off some dudes face and then taking it so far as to get shot because you did not stop when a cop pointed a gun at you.

Marijuana stays in the system for up to a month.

He most likely smoked a joint a week+ ago. had a mental breakdown. And now its marijuana's fault because they do not know how to understand the simplest of things.

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wow this is just going to make people think that weed is more harmful than they already think . this is not going to help the legalization at all


Yeah thats the main reason I posted this.. cause it totally hurts what NORML and others are doing and gives us potheads a bad stigma now... fuckin shit

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Dude probably experimented with some sketchy as chemicals and had a mental break down. This is honestly sad for his family and the homeless man.

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yeah man guy smoked weed some time with in the last month... and he was just plain crazy...

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Did you know Obama used to smoke weed back in the days?

he was thinking to llegalize weed.

supposably! Weed makes you cannabol? Wtf?

HE or someone fraud marry jane to make people attention to think that You'll turn into some flesh eater.

Don't tell me cigarettes gunna make you eat shit or something-_-

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wow this is just going to make people think that weed is more harmful than they already think . this is not going to help the legalization at all

It wouldn't get legalized anyways. Open your eyes and think deeply after a bowl. The Government is too greedy is the biggest reason but there's lots and they all have to do with $

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I didn't read the whole article but from what I skimmed over they didn't say how long after his death they did the toxicology test. If it was any longer than 3 days of course it wouldn't show anything but marijuana.

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Oh god, Reefer Madness all over again.

*pulls out umbrella*

Ready yourselves for the shitstorm.

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I wonder how many people are going to fall for this...

This is actually worse that the "Reefer madness" saga...

This is actually similar to the "All muslims are terrorist" saga...

Are they really going to think 22.8 million americans who use Cannabis are going going to become Cannibals from the actions of a crazed lunatic?

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I was contesting the "bath salts" were NOT the catalyst that drove this guy to eat some other dude's fuckin' face off! I do not care how "high" you are, or WHAT you're "on" - you have to have some crossed wiring from the start to end up pulling something like THAT.

Yeah, yeah. "What about someone out'their head, wet on PCP!??!" - Once again, I contend you have to already be germinating the seed, regardless if it's a drug that blooms it into full-blown-crazy-fucked-up.

In addition, that argument would be moot anyhow. Despite the vast cornucopia of misconception/misunderstanding - "bath salts" are primarily stimulants synthesized to mimic the effects of methamphetamines, amphetamines, cocaine, ect. The only other encapsulated synthetics typically claim to mimic the effects of Ecstasy (though still being a stimulant).


/edit: In regards to the speculation this will be taken as a negative blow to Marijuana: I think attention should be given to the fact that they sparked a nation-wide hysteria over something no different than any other drug that has become popular.

In conclusion - you take a person prone to self-destructive behavior (such as skinpopping and mainlining), it doesn't matter what the substance of abuse may be - someone in the throes of a six-day, hard-alcohol binge, or a tweaker melting down "bath salts" - and shooting the crap into their arm; it simply boils down to the individual, and their behavior that result in this madness.

Edited by DurbanPoison, 29 June 2012 - 10:33 AM.


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Between half of the posters in this thread and the people fr this article, you guys are the dumb ones. They never once said this was caused due to marijuana. It was only found in his body and they say in the article that it was most likely not the cause. The only problem with this is all the other people who don't like to read what it has to say but just the title to trip balls at.
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If it makes smokers think the media is blaming it on weed, imagine what the people who hate weed are thinking.

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Between half of the posters in this thread and the people fr this article, you guys are the dumb ones. They never once said this was caused due to marijuana. It was only found in his body and they say in the article that it was most likely not the cause. The only problem with this is all the other people who don't like to read what it has to say but just the title to trip balls at.


You are 100% right guy
But what you fail to see here is. That yes its not from weed. And in no way did they say it was WEED that did it..
But the main stream media and other STUPID people will associate the 2..
Since you actually read it, and others dont.. well you get my drift bro :)

Edited by rapidcharger, 29 June 2012 - 10:31 PM.


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Damn, just like th guy who was high on spice and ate his neighbors dog... The problem is that research chemicals dont show, right?

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Just imagine if the guy had no drug in his system. The situation could have been worse!

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I didn't read the thread but in case nobody has pointed out, all drugs get out of your system in like 4 days max except for weed.

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ive known for the longest time that marijuana is the cause for this epidemic of human face eating, but ive just been keeping it a secret for 5,000 years.




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