Denver firm to sell legal CBD product nationwide

I really feel conflicted about this...

Dixie Elixirs & Edibles, a Colorado based company making MMJ drinks and edibles since 2009, has just announced that it will begin selling products containing Federally legal CBD (Cannabidiol) later this summer. They intend this product to be available " in Colorado and throughout the United States."

Linky:Dixie Elixirs & Edibles Medicinal Hemp Products | Dixie Elixirs & Edibles

Although I find this very interesting and hopefully it will help some people, I wonder what effect it will have in the battle to legalize MJ?

Give something to opponents as a" see phizer is better" story to roll out.....

Well, I always smoke all of my AVB, which I'm pretty sure is almost all CBD, and it still gets me pretty baked, although a very different kind of baked. Will this stuff do the same thing?

Well, I always smoke all of my AVB, which I'm pretty sure is almost all CBD, and it still gets me pretty baked, although a very different kind of baked. Will this stuff do the same thing?

CBD is non-psychoactive so no it won't.

CBD is non-psychoactive so no it won't.

Apparently, that is in question due to a study in Japan that indicates that when ingested, the gastric juices in the stomach convert the CBD to THC. I see their angle on it though - if the CBD is so much higher than the THC content it is considered hemp, so maybe these would fall under "hemp products" like seed oil, fiber, etc. Anyhow, this could do a lot of damage to both the MMJ industry and the legalization effort.

If CBD is not psychoactive then how does my AVB still get me stoned?

Apparently, that is in question due to a study in Japan that indicates that when ingested, the gastric juices in the stomach convert the CBD to THC. I see their angle on it though - if the CBD is so much higher than the THC content it is considered hemp, so maybe these would fall under "hemp products" like seed oil, fiber, etc. Anyhow, this could do a lot of damage to both the MMJ industry and the legalization effort.

I personally think it will help it if anything, perhaps it will open more peoples eyes to how helpful this plant can really be.

If CBD is not psychoactive then how does my AVB still get me stoned?

ABV still contains THC and other psychoactive compounds just in lower ratios depending on the temp(s) it was vaped at. CBD does influence how THC and other canabinoids affect you so that might explain the different high.

If CBD is not psychoactive then how does my AVB still get me stoned?

cause you're smoking the dottle from your vaporizor.

which doesn't vape 100% of the thc ...

sad to see spelling isn't the only thing you suck ass at.

I personally think it will help it if anything, perhaps it will open more peoples eyes to how helpful this plant can really be.

Cool, as long as you realize that this is a move by pharma to ultimately gain control, bump dispensaries out of the way and keep weed illegal.

What? I didn't mispell anything. Thanks for answering my legitimate question in the most dickish way imaginable though.

Cool, as long as you realize that this is a move by pharma to ultimately gain control, bump dispensaries out of the way and keep weed illegal.

I don't think big pharma has anything to do with Dixie Elixirs, they have a good reputation here in Colorado for quality products.

I think what is going on is that DE has built a successful business and have grown where others have not. We have seen a lot of edible companies come and go here in CO. DE has recently announced that they were going to expand their market beyond CO.

I just don't know if they thought of the ramifications of this.

I just don't know if they thought of the ramifications of this.

they don't give a shit, now they are making dollar bills would be my guess.

Cool, as long as you realize that this is a move by pharma to ultimately gain control, bump dispensaries out of the way and keep weed illegal.

How does big pharma have anything to do with this?

they don't give a shit, now they are making dollar bills would be my guess.

Yup, that's my take on it.

How does big pharma have anything to do with this?

I don't think you're following along - these people aren't out to ease your pain, they want to control the market, just as the cartels and the pharmaceutical companies want to. In essence, they are all forms of big pharma. Once it's in a pill, guess what? You don't NEED weed anymore for your ailments and that will be the arguement to put dispensaries out of business. Of course, they would love for you to believe they just want to help grandma with her hip pain.

I don't think you're following along - these people aren't out to ease your pain, they want to control the market, just as the cartels and the pharmaceutical companies want to. In essence, they are all forms of big pharma. Once it's in a pill, guess what? You don't NEED weed anymore for your ailments and that will be the arguement to put dispensaries out of business. Of course, they would love for you to believe they just want to help grandma with her hip pain.

Idk man I think you are just reading into it too hard, of course they want money that is how our world turns unfortunately. But you can't say they don't want to help people, because well, you honestly don't know. Now I'm not saying I do know, but I'm not going to blame them for something I see as helpful.

Just because it would be in "pill" form doesn't mean shit, Pharma still can't patent it being a natural substance, it's just like any other botanical out there. If anything bad comes from this it would be the pushing of a bill to make all canabinoids illegal.

Seriously tho you should take this with a grain of salt. I for one am excited about this because now I can share with people (regardless of DE's intentions) a legal product that could be extremely beneficial.

Yea, their just a company trying to make a buck.

Idk man I think you are just reading into it too hard, of course they want money that is how our world turns unfortunately. But you can't say they don't want to help people, because well, you honestly don't know. Now I'm not saying I do know, but I'm not going to blame them for something I see as helpful.

Just because it would be in "pill" form doesn't mean shit, Pharma still can't patent it being a natural substance, it's just like any other botanical out there. If anything bad comes from this it would be the pushing of a bill to make all canabinoids illegal.

Seriously tho you should take this with a grain of salt. I for one am excited about this because now I can share with people (regardless of DE's intentions) a legal product that could be extremely beneficial.

UMM FYI .. plants CAN be copyrighted, and organic compounds are patented all the time.

What Can Be Patented

The patent law specifies the general field of subject matter that can be patented and the conditions under which a patent may be obtained.

In the language of the statute, any person who “invents or discovers any new and useful process, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof, may obtain a patent,” subject to the conditions and requirements of the law. The word “process” is defined by law as a process, act or method, and primarily includes industrial or technical processes. The term “machine” used in the statute needs no explanation. The term “manufacture” refers to articles that are made, and includes all manufactured articles. The term “composition of matter” relates to chemical compositions and may include mixtures of ingredients as well as new chemical compounds. These classes of subject matter taken together include practically everything that is made by man and the processes for making the products.

The Atomic Energy Act of 1954 excludes the patenting of inventions useful solely in the utilization of special nuclear material or atomic energy in an atomic weapon. See 42 U.S.C. 2181(a).

The patent law specifies that the subject matter must be “useful.” The term “useful” in this connection refers to the condition that the subject matter has a useful purpose and also includes operativeness, that is, a machine which will not operate to perform the intended purpose would not be called useful, and therefore would not be granted a patent.

Interpretations of the statute by the courts have defined the limits of the field of subject matter that can be patented, thus it has been held that the laws of nature, physical phenomena, and abstract ideas are not patentable subject matter.

A patent cannot be obtained upon a mere idea or suggestion. The patent is granted upon the new machine, manufacture, etc., as has been said, and not upon the idea or suggestion of the new machine. A complete description of the actual machine or other subject matter for which a patent is sought is required.

http://www.uspto.gov...s.jsp#heading-4

no one is going to tell me what i can grow.. or face the weed smoke i blow in the face of a plant hater:smoke: