Marijuana Decriminalization Talking Points

[DUTCH MASTER/88]

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[Alezay]

Originally Posted by DUTCH MASTER/88

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I completely agree. This was a very enlightening post. Time to print out and pass around.

[Dulee2005mm]

Wow........That is better. I was for while with you article.

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[Captain Cannabi]

Okay, stick with me, I have lots of info to share.

First off.

Marijuana Debating Point
The "Gateway Drug Theory" is one of the many things that pushes my buttons.
To base a great portion of your argument on a spurious relationship shows that there really is no hard evidence behind your claims.
A spurious relationship is best explained in the following scenario: "An example of a spurious relationship can be illuminated examining a city's ice cream sales.
These sales are highest when the rate of drownings in city swimming pools is highest.
To allege that ice cream sales cause drowning, or vice-versa, would be to imply a spurious relationship between the two.
In reality, a heat wave may have caused both.
The heat wave is an example of a hidden or unseen variable.
If I was to apply this to the Gateway Drug Theory we would see:
The rate of hard-drug use is highest among those who smoke marijuana.
Therefor, marijuana leads to hard-drug use.
In Reality, most "hard drug" user ALSO smoke Marijuana, either to "take the edge off" from other, harder substances.
This does not include many other hidden or unseen variables such as the current way our society is set up, the prohibition of such drugs, the laws themselves, the relative ease it takes to produce and sell marijuana, the accessibility to marijuana, and other drugs such as alcohol and nicotine.
If you were to look at the big picture, you would also see that nicotine and alcohol are considered drugs and are often the first drug a person tries, even before marijuana.
Therefore with your logic we should be able to assume that cigarettes and alcohol are "gateway drugs."

Secondly,
Beer is made with hops, which comes from the Cannabaceae family.
If there is hemp in beer and it's legal, why isn't pot?

My opinion is:
The Presidents used to Grow Marijuana(Cannabis Sativa L.)
Or "Hemp" so why can't we?
Marijauana is NOT a "Drug" It is a Plant, a Green Herbal Seed-bearing plant.


ANNUAL AMERICAN DEATHS CAUSED BY DRUGS

TOBACCO ........................ 400,000
ALCOHOL ........................ 100,000
ALL LEGAL DRUGS ................ 20,000
ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS .............. 15,000
CAFFEINE ....................... 2,000
ASPIRIN ........................ 500
MARIJUANA ...................... 0
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Source: United States government...
National Institute on Drug Abuse,
Bureau of Mortality Statistics



It just so happens it has chemicals in it, oh like Tabbaco has Nicotine, Nicotine can KILL you if you overload on it, Marijuana CAN'T kill you, the amount of Deaths each year by Drinking(100,000), and Drunk Driving is Staggering compared to the number of Deaths caused by Marijuana...Zero(0).
I Say, Legalise it and let the states govern themselves!
Let Personal Freedom back into this country.
No longer should we have freedom of thought and choice be suppressed!
There is nothing wrong with Marijuana, it is just a plant!
I say legalise it, regulate it(make it 18 to buy/use it) If not 18(SAME AS CIGARETTE LAWS) then make it 21 and make cigarettes 21 as well.
sell it in only personal sizes(2.7 grams Equivilance to a $20 Bag)
and people would be happy.
Take some lessons from Amsterdam and The B.C America!


if you filtered 1 Oz of marijuana, and 1 Oz of tobacco through a paper, or cotton filter, you would see that tobacco has far more tar than marijuana.
Not to mention that Marijuana Can kill you over a very extended period, just like cigarettes.
In even less than 30 years, unfiltered cigarettes can kill you vs. unfiltered joints.

you can use any drug irresponsibly, anyone anywhere can abuse almost any drug that they want. whether it's asprine, alcohol, caffeine, ANYTHING.

why should the government be able to decide what you do with your body?

the government tried to ban alcohol, so people just made their own, well the government has banned marijuana, and no matter how hard they try people are always going to be making their own.

I believe that tobacco and alcohol are far worse than marijuana.

some people say that marijuana is "very harmful" and that's why it is illegal. Too much of ANYTHING can be very harmful

I think that a lot of people that absolutely hate marijuana have never tried it.

why judge a book by it's cover?

The government, in my opinion only outlawed Marijuana, not for our own good as they try to brainwash you to believe, but for the money, because when all the money goes to the Drug black market, the more money the Government gets.
The "above the influence" ads always try to play Marijuana off as a dangerous drug, when it is, literally a WEED!
They don't want us buying it, so we try to grow it, then they take that from us, just another way to screw the people over.
What happened to a little thing our country was founded on? called the CONSTITUTION!(which was written on HEMP paper)

i'm tired of people saying that marijuana kills. tons of things kill people. like land mines, guns, alcohol, tobacco, sting rays, and cars.

I believe that marijuana should be a drug that can be used by responsible adults.

Thank you for reading, I shall post with more information shortly.

[FosterBoys]

I've turned some of the talking points into a video. It's called The Candidates Who Oppose Marijuana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGqwc1wMVFI

I'm still trying to figure out how to embed the player here.

[J T]

Wow these points are awesomee

[legalize_ganja]

also how you could say that people wouldnt use it would be that its like getting your license, when you dont have it you want it alot, once you have it its not that great. (just a way to make them see) but whatever id be sticking with what i do.

same to do with lowering the drinking age. once your allowed to its not that "cool" anymore.

[PokerofSmot]

If you look into the FDA's laws they clearly state that only drugs can cure diseases, and that anything that is used that is found in its natural state IS NOT a drug. they say only man made compounds can be drugs.

[legalize_ganja]

Originally Posted by PokerofSmot

If you look into the FDA's laws they clearly state that only drugs can cure diseases, and that anything that is used that is found in its natural state IS NOT a drug. they say only man made compounds can be drugs.

No shit. Since when??? lol. Idk about that. ppl still call tobacco a drug or w/e

[Grunge]

Fantastic, thanks for posting that.

[Moonstomp]

I always just say look how many people die of alcohol (not that I'm against alcohol, quite the opposite) compared to weed. Bit of a larf!! The only way the anti-weed twats hold the high ground is by ignoring all arguments to the contrary and being backed by the same people who run the country. Its not as if you hear about richy rich getting busted for possession. One law for them... and another law for us.

[Moonstomp]

plus THC is a bronchial dilator so at least some of Peter Tosh's claims are probably correct... for instance in my experience toking cures the common cold. wow

[sarahraek]

I might add that legalization would result in reducing consumption among teenagers and children for the simple reason that it would eliminate the unscrupulous street dealer from selling to them.

[bongsbluntsbowl]

great topic and sources everyone! bookmarked

[EarthWorm]

The DEA’s Administrative Law Judge, Francis Young, concluded: “In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating 10 raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death. Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis, marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care. Source: US Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Agency, “In the Matter of Marijuana Rescheduling Petition”. (Docket #86-22) (September 6, 1988) p. 57