smoking and usage

xplicitcontent · #1 (**permalink**) 02-28-2004, 08:44 AM

Pot should be regulated in the same way as alcohol, except with tighter and more disciplinary laws. With my personal experience, I noticed that it was a lot easier to obtain weed then to get alcohol. Why is that? Because anyone can sell pot since your not regulated and licensed. That anyone can sell to kids and such easily, and is only worried about getting caught in which many are let go do to the amounts of weed they carry (usually under the law as considered a small offense). They come back to the streets and they’re free again. In the case of alcohol however, the penalty is already a pain. With weed, the penalty should be more strict to ensure that only stores are selling weed to people of the age of 21 or older. To sell to a minor however, or to sell without a license will result in a penalty much worst then the one for alcohol. However, if you are under 21 and you are caught for possession, the same rules would apply with holding liqour, unless you have a certain amount with the intent to sell. At least through this way, we can reduce the amount of kids that obtain this stuff and regulated for adult use only.

CallMeHerb · #2 (**permalink**) 02-28-2004, 06:04 PM

i'm gunna have to disagree with you that you should be 21 or older to smoke. and a quick question.. how do they do it in amsterdam? do you have to be 21 or 18 or can anybody just buy it? plus if you regulate so only older people can buy it then kids are gunna have older people buy it for them. just like booze.

Blix · #3 (**permalink**) 02-28-2004, 06:47 PM

I think alcohol should be 18, but the simple fact is that the
US gov't has selected 21 to be the age at which you may buy
intoxicants. So therefore, no matter what it should be; weed,
when legalized, will be for adults 21 and over.

InferiorWang · #4 (**permalink**) 02-28-2004, 07:06 PM

^^^
I was gonna post almost the exact same thing. At 18 we become our own people, able to vote, eligible for the draft, but we can't drink!?! Give me some fun with all this damn responsibility.

I also have been saying for a while that the best solution for marijuana legalization would be regulation under similar circumstances as alcohol. Even if I disagree with the age for alcohol consumption, it would help set a point when people are "responsible enough" to enjoy the wonderful ganja and would appear nice and controlled to those damn politicians.

adamBC · #5 (**permalink**) 02-28-2004, 09:20 PM

the 21 year old law would be fine.

i mean, teenagers smoke it illegally already, wont change anything for them right?? plus they shouldnt be smoking their way thru highschool anyways (<<< most hypocritical thing ive ever said :P <<<)

I dont care if they regulate weeds fucking ass of, aslong as its not illegal for me to smoke a joint while sitting on my porch, ill be fine.

AtrophyX · #6 (**permalink**) 02-28-2004, 09:28 PM

Quote:

I was gonna post almost the exact same thing. At 18 we become our own people, able to vote, eligible for the draft, but we can't drink!?! Give me some fun with all this damn responsibility.

well the age is 21 because there are about 1000% more deaths from driving under the influence in the 18-21 year old range than in the 21 and above range...this is probably because there are so many 18 y/o morons that get all excited about getting their liscence, "soup up" a crappy 1995 neon, get drunk, and drive into trees.

Namynam · #7 (**permalink**) 02-28-2004, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by AtrophyX
well the age is 21 because there are about 1000% more deaths from driving under the influence in the 18-21 year old range than in the 21 and above range...this is probably because there are so many 18 y/o morons that get all excited about getting their liscence, "soup up" a crappy 1995 neon, get drunk, and drive into trees.

you get your license here when youre 16.

And, are you sure about your stats there? Ive heard different.

galvingirl · #8 (**permalink**) 02-28-2004, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Namynam
you get your license here when youre 16.

And, are you sure about your stats there? Ive heard different.

i agree with atrophy, when ur 18 you have had 2 years of driving experience..when you are 21 you have more experience and are more likely to make a responsible choice, we have enough deaths and accidents from alcohol, just think what it would be like if 18 year olds could drink...

Doobication · #9 (**permalink**) 02-29-2004, 03:07 AM

just think if 18 year olds can drink?... every hear of a plcae called Alberta Canada?... legal age is 18... im gettin smashed tonight.. god bless Alberta and our rich, oil filled province..

GroTrees · #10 (**permalink**) 02-29-2004, 10:37 AM

dude the governement didnt choose 21 Nancy Reagan did at least im pretty sure thats who it was, it used to be 18 before that biatch

Namynam · #11 (**permalink**) 02-29-2004, 11:53 PM

you know what else, blame reagan for your shitty school lunches. my teacher told me he fucked up the lunch system.

TheNightGoes90 · #12 (**permalink**) 03-01-2004, 01:17 AM

In response to the comment about the government choosing 21 to be the age at which individuals can buy intoxicants: What about cigarettes?

I think we should take a page out of Ontario's book and make everything legal for individuals over the age of 19. It would appear much less hypocritical for the government to allow us to buy tobacco and alcohol at the same age considering the greater long-term danger associated with the drug that we can buy earliest. Also, the draft age increased by one year as well. I've spoken to a few of my friends' dads who served in the military during the 70s about the fact that it is acceptable for the government to conscript 18 year olds into military service but illegal for the same 18 year olds to buy a beer on their days away from the base. Most of them said that it's ridiculous and that it would have been impossible to enforce such a rule during the Vietnam era.

19 for everything, nationwide.

Phloydrix · #13 (**permalink**) 03-01-2004, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by AtrophyX
well the age is 21 because there are about 1000% more deaths from driving under the influence in the 18-21 year old range than in the 21 and above range...this is probably because there are so many 18 y/o morons that get all excited about getting their liscence, "soup up" a crappy 1995 neon, get drunk, and drive into trees.

But see driving under the influence is illegal no matter what the drug...

Czar Raps-A-Lot · #14 (**permalink**) 03-01-2004, 08:19 AM

Don't be an idiot! No offense, just don't be an idiot. If weed were legalized in any capacity it would be a free-for-all, there would be no way to regulate its sale at all. People are always like "Whooa they should sell weed in stores with a tax!" Well guess what? If they did sell weed in stores it would always be more expensive than if you got it from a dealer, so its kind of pointless. Besides, why would you want to buy exclusively mass-produced weed? The best part about weed is that you can constantly get new types.
Anyways, I'm pretty sure mass-produced shit would just be some lame-ass mids, and for those of us who smoke top-quality stuff it just wouldn't do the trick.

Mr_Criminal · #15 (**permalink**) 03-01-2004, 05:23 PM

heheh. "if you regulate so only older people can buy it then kids are gunna have older people buy it for them. just like booze." hey, that sounds like a plan to me.

i'd be happy with store bought prerolled mids. while they're at it.. i'm sure there will be flavored joints, lights, 100s, reds, hard/soft pack, menthol.

be walkin down the street and people always ask for cigarettes and shit. it would be cool to hear "hey lemme get a j"

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#1 (permalink) 02-28-2004, 08:44 AM
xplicitcontent just blaze Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: in a box Posts: 771	my two cents on legalization Pot should be regulated in the same way as alcohol, except with tighter and more disciplinary laws. With my personal experience, I noticed that it was a lot easier to obtain weed then to get alcohol. Why is that? Because anyone can sell pot since your not regulated and licensed. That anyone can sell to kids and such easily, and is only worried about getting caught in which many are let go do to the amounts of weed they carry (usually under the law as considered a small offense). They come back to the streets and they’re free again. In the case of alcohol however, the penalty is already a pain. With weed, the penalty should be more strict to ensure that only stores are selling weed to people of the age of 21 or older. To sell to a minor however, or to sell without a license will result in a penalty much worst then the one for alcohol. However, if you are under 21 and you are caught for possession, the same rules would apply with holding liqour, unless you have a certain amount with the intent to sell. At least through this way, we can reduce the amount of kids that obtain this stuff and regulated for adult use only.

#2 (permalink) 02-28-2004, 06:04 PM
CallMeHerb bitch slappin mofo Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 904	i'm gunna have to disagree with you that you should be 21 or older to smoke. and a quick question.. how do they do it in amsterdam? do you have to be 21 or 18 or can anybody just buy it? plus if you regulate so only older people can buy it then kids are gunna have older people buy it for them. just like booze. __________________ <center> <a href="http://www.professordoom.com/"><img src="http://www.professordoom.com/images/grasscitysig.GIF" alt="doom is eminent" border=0></a> </center>

#3 (permalink) 02-28-2004, 06:47 PM
Blix Three Strange Days Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: My own head Posts: 3,287	I think alcohol should be 18, but the simple fact is that the US gov't has selected 21 to be the age at which you may buy intoxicants. So therefore, no matter what it should be; weed, when legalized, will be for adults 21 and over. __________________ The RIAA and MPAA lawsuits are nothing more than an attempt by old men to hang on to antiquated business models at any cost. In my opinion, the single best thing you can do with your computer is to "steal" everything you can. The sooner we drag these assholes into the twenty first century, the better.

#4 (permalink) 02-28-2004, 07:06 PM
InferiorWang Old School Stoner Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: WTF? Where am I? Posts: 4,505	^^^ I was gonna post almost the exact same thing. At 18 we become our own people, able to vote, eligible for the draft, but we can't drink!?! Give me some fun with all this damn responsibility. I also have been saying for a while that the best solution for marijuana legalization would be regulation under similar circumstances as alcohol. Even if I disagree with the age for alcohol consumption, it would help set a point when people are "responsible enough" to enjoy the wonderful ganja and would appear nice and controlled to those damn politicians. __________________ "All the people from high school that I thought would be cooler if they smoked now smoke...and they're much cooler." - A friend of mine spring break his freshman year Everything in moderation...including moderation.

#5 (permalink) 02-28-2004, 09:20 PM
adamBC Old School Stoner Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: BC (bud country) Posts: 3,993	the 21 year old law would be fine. i mean, teenagers smoke it illegally already, wont change anything for them right?? plus they shouldnt be smoking their way thru highschool anyways (<<< most hypocritical thing ive ever said :P <<<) I dont care if they regulate weeds fucking ass of, aslong as its not illegal for me to smoke a joint while sitting on my porch, ill be fine. __________________ i've never had a dream in my life, because a dreams something you wanted, but still haven't pursued. i knew what i wanted, and did it till it was done, so i've been living the dream i wanted to be since day ONE.

#9 (permalink) 02-29-2004, 03:07 AM
Doobication Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 126	just think if 18 year olds can drink?... every hear of a plcae called Alberta Canada?... legal age is 18... im gettin smashed tonight.. god bless Alberta and our rich, oil filled province.. __________________ If you can do it, and your smart, then its smart to do it.

#10 (permalink) 02-29-2004, 10:37 AM
GroTrees Petroleum Distributor Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Not Here Posts: 221	dude the governement didnt choose 21 Nancy Reagan did at least im pretty sure thats who it was, it used to be 18 before that biatch __________________ "Learn to grow, grow to smoke, smoke to learn."

#11 (permalink) 02-29-2004, 11:53 PM
Namynam New School Attitude Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,819	you know what else, blame reagan for your shitty school lunches. my teacher told me he fucked up the lunch system. __________________ "The only prob with legalizing mary jane is that the dealers will be pissed cuz they will be sellin it at stores and shit prolly" - JaneInMyBrain on legalization

#12 (permalink) 03-01-2004, 01:17 AM
TheNightGoes90 More Law = Less Justice Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 640	In response to the comment about the government choosing 21 to be the age at which individuals can buy intoxicants: What about cigarettes? I think we should take a page out of Ontario's book and make everything legal for individuals over the age of 19. It would appear much less hypocritical for the government to allow us to buy tobacco and alcohol at the same age considering the greater long-term danger associated with the drug that we can buy earliest. Also, the draft age increased by one year as well. I've spoken to a few of my friends' dads who served in the military during the 70s about the fact that it is acceptable for the government to conscript 18 year olds into military service but illegal for the same 18 year olds to buy a beer on their days away from the base. Most of them said that it's ridiculous and that it would have been impossible to enforce such a rule during the Vietnam era. 19 for everything, nationwide.

#14 (permalink) 03-01-2004, 08:19 AM
Czar Raps-A-Lot Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Penfifteenville Posts: 262	Don't be an idiot! No offense, just don't be an idiot. If weed were legalized in any capacity it would be a free-for-all, there would be no way to regulate its sale at all. People are always like "Whooa they should sell weed in stores with a tax!" Well guess what? If they did sell weed in stores it would always be more expensive than if you got it from a dealer, so its kind of pointless. Besides, why would you want to buy exclusively mass-produced weed? The best part about weed is that you can constantly get new types. Anyways, I'm pretty sure mass-produced shit would just be some lame-ass mids, and for those of us who smoke top-quality stuff it just wouldn't do the trick.

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#15 (permalink) 03-01-2004, 05:23 PM
Mr_Criminal Meatwad Mentality Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,425	heheh. "if you regulate so only older people can buy it then kids are gunna have older people buy it for them. just like booze." hey, that sounds like a plan to me. i'd be happy with store bought prerolled mids. while they're at it.. i'm sure there will be flavored joints, lights, 100s, reds, hard/soft pack, menthol. be walkin down the street and people always ask for cigarettes and shit. it would be cool to hear "hey lemme get a j"