smoking and usage

SeEk206 · #1 (**permalink**) 06-28-2006, 05:54 AM

I believe that weed is a gateway drug. I also do smoke weed (that’s why I belong to this forum) but still believe that it is. I have seen many friends move on from weed to hard drugs. Now I think that if they have never tried weed then they would not be doing coke or what not. I think that the reason they moved on to harder drugs was because it stopped being satisfying enough for them. It also moves them closer to the drug world than if they would be without weed.

Lets face it "most" drug dealers deal more than just weed. They now have a source for harder drugs than weed. Then the temptation starts to kick in. That’s why marijuana is a gateway drug to an extent. It a start in the wrong direction.

I also believe that a lot of drug dealers start out dealing weed. Like in high school and shit. Then they start out moving up in the harder drugs like crack and heroin. Another way that marijuana is a gateway drug.

I know what you’re saying that this is not helping the cause.

BUT.......

If we legalize weed there would not be a source for harder drugs. Most people don't want to do harder drugs but once that temptation kicks in that’s when people cave in. All they want to do is get high. If we let people get high and not have any temptation for any harder drugs then it doesn't become an issue anymore. So if the government legalizes it will cut out the temptation for harder drugs. This will cause a decrease in harder drugs. Another great reason why marijuana should be legal.

Another reason why we should legalize it is that it would cut down on drug dealers. Now that marijuana is legal now most people will stop dealing drugs because of the jump to harder drugs. If people don’t have to deal weed then that would stop them from start dealing. Most people wont start out dealing with crack or heroin. They use weed as a starting point for there drug dealing. If it were legal they wouldn't deal a legal substance that you could buy at the local corner store. It would stop many people from dealing harder drugs because they would have to start dealing with coke and other hard drugs. This will also help in cutting down in harder drugs.

Another little tid bit is that alcohol way more of a gateway drug than marijuana. Once you start drinking you have a "don't give a shit" attitude and if someone offers you some drug that you would never try sober you will do drunk. Marijuana just makes you want to sit around, eat food and watch movies. I have never seen anybody try a harder drug when there stoned out of his or her mind. I have seen people do harder drug while one weed but the temptation was already in them and they would have done it even if they were sober. Alcohol is 100x more of a gateway drug than weed. If the government allows alcohol to be legal then weed should not be a problem at all.

LEGALIZATION - Way to stop drugs "ironically"

phiktion · #2 (**permalink**) 06-28-2006, 05:59 AM

in chronilogical order of the stuff i have used.

weed, adderal, alcohol, ecstacy, shrooms, coke, acid

SeEk206 · #3 (**permalink**) 06-28-2006, 06:04 AM

all im really saying is that even tho it is a gateway drug now it wont be if it is legal. It would also cut down of harder drugs. it just another great reason on y it should be legal.

Jonsi · #4 (**permalink**) 06-28-2006, 09:27 AM

Just because you smoked marijuana first, doesn't make it a gateway drug.

I've never smoked a bowl, and then thought, "hrm that bowl really made me want to try heroin, or coke, or acid" I've said it before, and I'm pretty sure I'm ripping it off some comedian, but I was too stoned to remember who it was, "The only thing Marijuana leads to is the Golden Arches."

Just because you smoked weed first, doesn't mean it's a gateway, otherwise, Caffeine is the largest gateway drug

sherlockhead · #5 (**permalink**) 06-28-2006, 12:19 PM

like you said, dealers have links to harder drugs when they deal weed
if its legalized, they will be out of business, an peoples main focus drug will be weed, therefore running harder drug dealers out of business.

LEGALIZE IT.

scoobydooby67 · #6 (**permalink**) 06-28-2006, 11:35 PM

no there is no such thing as a gateway drug. the fact that you stoners actually believe this horseshit tell us that the government has won.

its the psychology of people who choose to do any drug, theyre gonna make that choice themselves, it isnt the drugs thats "controlling" them.

the "gateway drug" theory was invented and spread by the government through the media. it does not exist.

GreenLantern420 · #7 (**permalink**) 06-28-2006, 11:39 PM

if anything Alcohol, tobacco, and caffine are gateway drugs, not weed. They are legal yes, but they are still DRUGS. And I know alot of people who first smoked a cig, or drank before smokin bud.

naku06 · #8 (**permalink**) 06-28-2006, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenLantern420

if anything Alcohol, tobacco, and caffine are gateway drugs, not weed

i did all three before touching weed. the gate way theory only exists in the minds that think it does.

SeEk206 · #9 (**permalink**) 06-29-2006, 03:54 AM

Its really only in certain cases that it could even be considered one (there are so few that it doesn't matter). That my opinion, but i have seen people move on to hard drugs that would have probley not have if they didnt start with weed. That what i think.

Alphå · #10 (**permalink**) 06-29-2006, 08:09 AM

Weed is funny.

Since the government has declared war on a plant, if I want weed I have to go through the black market.

The black market sells weed as well as any other licit or ilicit drugs.

So, the government forces me to buy through the black market, thus making other drugs available to me.

Look at it this way... Lots of people are going to want to do drugs. Remember the whole opium addiction thing with the chinese opium trade? ITs just the kinda thing that a lot of people would enjoy (but a lot of them dont get to enjoy becuase they are brainwashed... And I think rightfully so. There are way too many people out there who do drugs for all teh wrong reasons. In my opinion its not something to just get fucked up on. Its a whole lot more then that with weed.

Anyways I'm rambling.

HerbsINtheBurbs · #11 (**permalink**) 06-29-2006, 02:34 PM

I agree with many of the above posters. First, the availability problem could be solved by legalization. Second, drugs are out there anyway, most people tobacco, or alcohol, is their "gateway" even caffeine. It's all about choice, not marijuana.

emagdnim13 · #12 (**permalink**) 06-30-2006, 04:37 PM

the gateway drug accusation bases itself on the notion that weed leads you into other drugs.

but it's YOU that leads you into other drugs.

i don't know a single person who i could buy coke, crack, heroin, pcp, meth, or anything like that.

the order i took drugs in

caffeine-cigs-alcohol-weed-coke-shrooms-pills

right in the middle actually.

but when it boils down to it, it's the user who ultimately decides to take that first hit of meth or blow their first line.

not their drug history.

Tbika · #13 (**permalink**) 06-30-2006, 06:06 PM

The human mind is a gateway drug.

Its our own curiosity that makes us want to try other drugs.

Its true, most people try weed before trying "harder drugs". does that make weed a gateway drug. No. that means that they tried it first. If you try other drugs, chances are you were thinking about trying other drugs before you tried weed. Weed was just a step in your path towards other drug use. People start with weed because its less powerful and then decide to try the more powerful drugs. Thats common sense to me.

If you see the biggest roller coaster in the amusement park, and you've never been on a roller coaster before, do you go straight to that one. No, you go on one of the smaller ones first because maybe your scared of the big one or you wanna see how they are. then after that, some people might say, you know what i like this roller coaster, i'm just gonna stay on it; some people might say roller coasters suck i'm never going on them again; and some might say, wow, i cant wait to go on all the other roller coasters. thats just the way people are.

Shouse1018 · #14 (**permalink**) 06-30-2006, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonsi

Just because you smoked marijuana first, doesn't make it a gateway drug.

I've never smoked a bowl, and then thought, "hrm that bowl really made me want to try heroin, or coke, or acid" I've said it before, and I'm pretty sure I'm ripping it off some comedian, but I was too stoned to remember who it was, "The only thing Marijuana leads to is the Golden Arches."

Just because you smoked weed first, doesn't mean it's a gateway, otherwise, Caffeine is the largest gateway drug

True.

So I took aspirin before anything, is that a gate way drug??? You forget about

all the other "acceptable" drugs we in society. I think if someone blames weed

for them doing other stuff, then they have no idea of WHO they really are.

It's so easy to blame something rather than blaming the one who is really

responsible, Yourself. You are in total control of your own actions. Don't blame

MJ cause she's always been there for me and never makes me feel like shyt.

yankee_racers · #15 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 07:45 AM

As far as illegal drugs go, weed is typically what people start with. I think most people get their first effects from drugs with caffiene, alcohol, or tobacco. If weed didn't exist (omg) people would start with some other drug. Calling marijuana a gateway drug is just propaganda from the War on Drugs. Its your journey and whatever you do and however far you go down the drug path is totally your choice and not weeds. I know people who have smoked weed for 8-10 years and have only had very limited encounters with harder drugs. If anything, the illegal drug culture might try to push you into trying harder drugs, therefore I'll agree you have a point here. Make weed legal, it doesn't belong in the same category as other drugs it is grouped with.

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#1 (permalink) 06-28-2006, 05:54 AM
SeEk206 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13	As far as marijuana being a gateway drug - it is I believe that weed is a gateway drug. I also do smoke weed (that’s why I belong to this forum) but still believe that it is. I have seen many friends move on from weed to hard drugs. Now I think that if they have never tried weed then they would not be doing coke or what not. I think that the reason they moved on to harder drugs was because it stopped being satisfying enough for them. It also moves them closer to the drug world than if they would be without weed. Lets face it "most" drug dealers deal more than just weed. They now have a source for harder drugs than weed. Then the temptation starts to kick in. That’s why marijuana is a gateway drug to an extent. It a start in the wrong direction. I also believe that a lot of drug dealers start out dealing weed. Like in high school and shit. Then they start out moving up in the harder drugs like crack and heroin. Another way that marijuana is a gateway drug. I know what you’re saying that this is not helping the cause. BUT....... If we legalize weed there would not be a source for harder drugs. Most people don't want to do harder drugs but once that temptation kicks in that’s when people cave in. All they want to do is get high. If we let people get high and not have any temptation for any harder drugs then it doesn't become an issue anymore. So if the government legalizes it will cut out the temptation for harder drugs. This will cause a decrease in harder drugs. Another great reason why marijuana should be legal. Another reason why we should legalize it is that it would cut down on drug dealers. Now that marijuana is legal now most people will stop dealing drugs because of the jump to harder drugs. If people don’t have to deal weed then that would stop them from start dealing. Most people wont start out dealing with crack or heroin. They use weed as a starting point for there drug dealing. If it were legal they wouldn't deal a legal substance that you could buy at the local corner store. It would stop many people from dealing harder drugs because they would have to start dealing with coke and other hard drugs. This will also help in cutting down in harder drugs. Another little tid bit is that alcohol way more of a gateway drug than marijuana. Once you start drinking you have a "don't give a shit" attitude and if someone offers you some drug that you would never try sober you will do drunk. Marijuana just makes you want to sit around, eat food and watch movies. I have never seen anybody try a harder drug when there stoned out of his or her mind. I have seen people do harder drug while one weed but the temptation was already in them and they would have done it even if they were sober. Alcohol is 100x more of a gateway drug than weed. If the government allows alcohol to be legal then weed should not be a problem at all. LEGALIZATION - Way to stop drugs "ironically" Last edited by SeEk206; 06-28-2006 at 06:00 AM.

#2 (permalink) 06-28-2006, 05:59 AM
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#3 (permalink) 06-28-2006, 06:04 AM
SeEk206 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13	all im really saying is that even tho it is a gateway drug now it wont be if it is legal. It would also cut down of harder drugs. it just another great reason on y it should be legal.

#4 (permalink) 06-28-2006, 09:27 AM
Jonsi Shine On, Syd Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,721	Just because you smoked marijuana first, doesn't make it a gateway drug. I've never smoked a bowl, and then thought, "hrm that bowl really made me want to try heroin, or coke, or acid" I've said it before, and I'm pretty sure I'm ripping it off some comedian, but I was too stoned to remember who it was, "The only thing Marijuana leads to is the Golden Arches." Just because you smoked weed first, doesn't mean it's a gateway, otherwise, Caffeine is the largest gateway drug __________________ "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. It is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become victims of the darkness." William O. Douglas

#5 (permalink) 06-28-2006, 12:19 PM
sherlockhead Straightedge for life Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: california Posts: 703	like you said, dealers have links to harder drugs when they deal weed if its legalized, they will be out of business, an peoples main focus drug will be weed, therefore running harder drug dealers out of business. LEGALIZE IT. __________________ 1. Signature Limits: All signatures should not exceed the following size limits, and you can't have both text and images. Text Signatures: 4 lines normal size OR 8 lines small size and up to 90 chars per line. Font sizes above 2 are not allowed. For images in signatures: 1 image up to 300 pixels wide, 125 pixels tall and 20k in size.

#6 (permalink) 06-28-2006, 11:35 PM
scoobydooby67 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,814	no there is no such thing as a gateway drug. the fact that you stoners actually believe this horseshit tell us that the government has won. its the psychology of people who choose to do any drug, theyre gonna make that choice themselves, it isnt the drugs thats "controlling" them. the "gateway drug" theory was invented and spread by the government through the media. it does not exist.

#7 (permalink) 06-28-2006, 11:39 PM
GreenLantern420 Insert user title (mod) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spring Hill,FL Posts: 4,741 Blog Entries: 4	if anything Alcohol, tobacco, and caffine are gateway drugs, not weed. They are legal yes, but they are still DRUGS. And I know alot of people who first smoked a cig, or drank before smokin bud. __________________ "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace" Jimi Hendrix

#9 (permalink) 06-29-2006, 03:54 AM
SeEk206 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13	Its really only in certain cases that it could even be considered one (there are so few that it doesn't matter). That my opinion, but i have seen people move on to hard drugs that would have probley not have if they didnt start with weed. That what i think.

#10 (permalink) 06-29-2006, 08:09 AM
Alphå Soldier Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Occupation: Hired Gun Posts: 2,732	Weed is funny. Since the government has declared war on a plant, if I want weed I have to go through the black market. The black market sells weed as well as any other licit or ilicit drugs. So, the government forces me to buy through the black market, thus making other drugs available to me. Look at it this way... Lots of people are going to want to do drugs. Remember the whole opium addiction thing with the chinese opium trade? ITs just the kinda thing that a lot of people would enjoy (but a lot of them dont get to enjoy becuase they are brainwashed... And I think rightfully so. There are way too many people out there who do drugs for all teh wrong reasons. In my opinion its not something to just get fucked up on. Its a whole lot more then that with weed. Anyways I'm rambling. __________________

#11 (permalink) 06-29-2006, 02:34 PM
HerbsINtheBurbs Spread Green Love Join Date: May 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,151	I agree with many of the above posters. First, the availability problem could be solved by legalization. Second, drugs are out there anyway, most people tobacco, or alcohol, is their "gateway" even caffeine. It's all about choice, not marijuana.

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#12 (permalink) 06-30-2006, 04:37 PM
emagdnim13 Glass Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: chicago suburbs Posts: 5,435	the gateway drug accusation bases itself on the notion that weed leads you into other drugs. but it's YOU that leads you into other drugs. i don't know a single person who i could buy coke, crack, heroin, pcp, meth, or anything like that. the order i took drugs in caffeine-cigs-alcohol-weed-coke-shrooms-pills right in the middle actually. but when it boils down to it, it's the user who ultimately decides to take that first hit of meth or blow their first line. not their drug history.

#13 (permalink) 06-30-2006, 06:06 PM
Tbika Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,133	The human mind is a gateway drug. Its our own curiosity that makes us want to try other drugs. Its true, most people try weed before trying "harder drugs". does that make weed a gateway drug. No. that means that they tried it first. If you try other drugs, chances are you were thinking about trying other drugs before you tried weed. Weed was just a step in your path towards other drug use. People start with weed because its less powerful and then decide to try the more powerful drugs. Thats common sense to me. If you see the biggest roller coaster in the amusement park, and you've never been on a roller coaster before, do you go straight to that one. No, you go on one of the smaller ones first because maybe your scared of the big one or you wanna see how they are. then after that, some people might say, you know what i like this roller coaster, i'm just gonna stay on it; some people might say roller coasters suck i'm never going on them again; and some might say, wow, i cant wait to go on all the other roller coasters. thats just the way people are.

#15 (permalink) 07-17-2006, 07:45 AM
yankee_racers Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 11	As far as illegal drugs go, weed is typically what people start with. I think most people get their first effects from drugs with caffiene, alcohol, or tobacco. If weed didn't exist (omg) people would start with some other drug. Calling marijuana a gateway drug is just propaganda from the War on Drugs. Its your journey and whatever you do and however far you go down the drug path is totally your choice and not weeds. I know people who have smoked weed for 8-10 years and have only had very limited encounters with harder drugs. If anything, the illegal drug culture might try to push you into trying harder drugs, therefore I'll agree you have a point here. Make weed legal, it doesn't belong in the same category as other drugs it is grouped with.