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Old 10-18-2009, 12:40 PM
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Re: MY FIRST BEGGINERS GROW JOURNAL-PICS, I need help from seed to harvest!

Magnets for a metal case, so simple it's genius!

Tip- No need for intake fans, your exhaust fans will pull the air in. All you need are intake ports, if you put them in the floor of the cab, it pulls cooler air from the outside up past your plants to the exhaust. It keeps the air moving in 1 consistent direction. With the ports low or in the floor, it keep the air movement moving from the bottom of the cab to the top. This is what you want as it is pulling the heat upwards, always. When you add an intake fan, you create a mini-whirlwind in there, the air is moving all different ways.

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you can spray teh leaves if you want to but after you switch it over to flowering i would not recommend it, it could possibly mold up on u. as far as watering goes i watered my plant every other day using only like 20oz of water. this way it would have a day of freshly watered soil and a day or dried up soil. it seems to work for me. also the light cycle is important in pc grows. like others said during the night cycle is when it does most of its growing. however you and I are growing inside of a computer so you really dont want it to grow to much during the veg period. vertical growth is not your friend at this point in time. i had mine of 24hrs. and if you look at my blog you will see that its only about 8in tall, at most. you are deffenitly going to want to LST and or SCROG. check out my thread for more on that other wise there are hundreds of threads dedicated to those 2 methods. but yah use the 6500K bulbs while vegging or again you are going to get alot of stretching.

edit: you can also pour water in the soil. very slowly however. for the first week or so just spritz the soil though to keep it moist. if you pour at this time you may unearth the seed. so spitz with a water bottle. and be careful. if you get past the germination stage your home free. i find it to be the hardest part of growing.
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Alright that makes sense.
so first week or so=spritzin water

after that=about 20 oz. every other day

and that spritzin during flowrin

Got it

I will be LST'in I got that metal magnetic grid that I can move any where on the box with magnets as well.

So as far as tryin to stay away from vertical growth I would wanna do 24hrs of light?

Im hearing both sides, but 24 hrs. of light seems to make the most sense right now...?
 
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hey,

i dont know if it was a typo but during flowering do not spray the foliage, it might cause some mold on the bud. mold=bad for the plant and your lungs.

and yes, from my experience 24 hours during vegging will halt the vertical growth. i am no expert but it worked for me. and if you are using CFLs which you are keeping them on 24 hrs for a few weeks will only increase your power bill like $2. if that. but again only from my experience have i found this to work best. others will say and believe what they have experienced first hand. so maybe try an experiment with this grow. have your lights on 18\6 for a few weeks throw it into flowering let it grow harvest, then your next grow keep the lights on 24\0 for vegging and compare and contrast. or vis versa. experimenting is really the only way you will learn from your mistakes/ echievements.

as far as the no intake fan goes. i would, again, experiment. run the pc case for a few days to see what your temps are at and if they are to high then add an intake to get added cooling. if its at the right temp than it is not necessary to have an intake. I think since its such a small inclosed area the intake is necessary. but then again i never tried it with out.

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and yes, from my experience 24 hours during vegging will halt the vertical growth.

24 hrs of light promotes vertical growth, not stunts it. LST is the only thing to keep height down. (and keeping lights as close as possible to avoid stretching.)


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add an intake to get added cooling.
Add an intake fan to add to your elec bill and to create an inconsistent air flow. PM "John" regarding negative and positive air pressure.

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i was under the impression that during the night is when it grows the most, due to it trying to find light. there for when having the light on 24hrs it will not need to search for light and will just fill out, that is if the light is close enuf to it to reduce stretching. but again i am no expert and this is just what i have learned from my own experience.
 
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i was under the impression that during the night is when it grows the most, due to it trying to find light. there for when having the light on 24hrs it will not need to search for light and will just fill out, that is if the light is close enuf to it to reduce stretching. but again i am no expert and this is just what i have learned from my own experience.
Well, the best way to learn it to experience it for yourself

I have a plant that's been in veg for 5 weeks, it just got it's 3rd round of LST or it would be about 3 ft by now. (although I have been purposely stretching that group) Veg state= GROWTH
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Re: MY FIRST BEGGINERS GROW JOURNAL-PICS, I need help from seed to harvest!

ive always put my vegging on 24 and ive never had a problem with it. the idea of 18/6 is to let the plant "rest" like people do and recharge (also the plant reverses its respiration cycle and releases carbon dioxide), then in the morning there is a build up of growth that is released when the "sun comes up." plants are basically light robots, they run their lives according to the cycle of light. when the sun is up that means grow. and how long the sun is up determines what it will do. past 12 hours means its summer time and it needs to get as big as possible (vegging) when the light cycle shifts to the critical 12/12 (equinox) that means winter is coming, time to make flowers to pass on genes to the next generation. weed is an annual like impatients and marigolds, it only lives one cycle. beware anyone who tells u that such-and-such seed is a such-and-such generation, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. they are morons and trying to play u for a fool.
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about 36 hours in.

took of the saran wrap

24 hrs. lights

how they lookin?

I just tooched a bowl out of my illadelph and lookin at these guys feels fuckin awesome, knowing they can actually become real fucking weed.

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They look like seedlings
My suggestions:
1. Don't, don't, don't, over water your plants. I water every 4 days or so, you can tell when they need some by lifting the pot up. If it feels really light then its time.
2. Keep the CFLs as close as possible. Your plants will stretch if they are too far away.
3. Seedling time is the most important time to prepare the plant for life. Make sure you have a breeze on them, it will strengthen the stem early, allowing for more water and food to be drawn up later.

On the whole, this whole growing thing is more hands off than hands on. The number 1 mistake new growers make is over loving their plants.
 
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OverLove- Too much water, too many nutes

Number 1 for screwing up new growers first attempts for sure.
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Alright the last 2 or 3 times ive cheked over last 36 hours ive spritzed some water, but hearing that ill stop now!

be sure to just let it chill for a couple of days

I cant really tell by the weight of the pot cause im not sure whats too heavy whats too light.

If you look at the pictures, near the pot to the left, there are fans behind it. Those are my intake fans. And there not really blowing quite right on the plant, the pot itself is blocking that. However the exhaust fans are on the other side and up high, so is there still good enough air flow?

IM just gonna let her sit for now and forget about her

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yo dude very nice setup. I am about at the same place as you on my first grow. Good luck

I am giving my little sprouts 24 hrs of 150 hps light and they look good to me

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I've found that when I really knock around a seedling early with a heavy constant breeze I get really good results out of that plant. It only takes maybe 2 days of a strong wind from a fan directly on the plant to get it to tough up well enough. I usually wait to do this until it looks like the roots are establishing. By knocking the plant around a little you encourage the roots to grow horizontally, which stunts stretching and keeps my plants bushy and wide.

You can get a feel for it over time. Just pick it up every day, you'll notice a difference. Wet it significantly heavier than dry is.
 
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Ya Ill try to get a feel for the weight of dry and not dry. thanks 2lazy

as for the breeze would it be worth my interest to put a small fan in there that would be blowing right on these guys?

Theres def air flow goin on its just not directly on the sprouts...
 
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Basically, I just stick my finger in the soil. If the first inch or so is really dry, then I give it some water. If it still feels a little wet or even a bit moist, leave it.

after a while you can just tell by picking up the pot and feeling the weight.

I never give my vegging plant any nutes at all until I start flowering. The only thing is maybe some Superthrive to get a nice root system going.

Also one of those babies look a bit stretched. If this happens to my seedling I start making a mound of dirt at the base of my plant and add more soil if I need to, to make it look shorter, this also makes root grow. Then put a fan over the plants. I would also put the plants closer to the light if possible. Unless you can't check up on them daily, then keep it a safer distance.
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