Buddha's Buds: Bubblelicious, Crimea Blue, White Skunk Blue Mystic 400w hps soil grow

[chopsticks]

Hey man,

This is a really awesome journal. Right now I'm growing in Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil using a 4'x2' growbox with a 135cfl exhaust blower running into a cool tubed 400 watt hps. I just germinated 5 blue mystic seeds and have seen pretty rapid growth in the first week they've been in the dirt. Can you tell me some things about this strain that I should watch for or avoid? Also, some pictures of the blue mystic you had would be really appreciated. It looks like you're gonna have your hands full on Halloween.

[Buddha88]

Originally Posted by chopsticks

Hey man,

This is a really awesome journal. Right now I'm growing in Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil using a 4'x2' growbox with a 135cfl exhaust blower running into a cool tubed 400 watt hps. I just germinated 5 blue mystic seeds and have seen pretty rapid growth in the first week they've been in the dirt. Can you tell me some things about this strain that I should watch for or avoid? Also, some pictures of the blue mystic you had would be really appreciated. It looks like you're gonna have your hands full on Halloween.

Well thanks for stopping by bro. And yeah id be happy to share some info on the blue mystic. they are a pretty quick grower and looks like a big yielder as well. IT IS VERY NUTE SENSITVE!!! i cant say this enough. id say dont start nutes at all for the first 2 weeks(maybe 25% the second week) and only use 50% nutes all the way through veg. i experienced nute burn with my plant and read about alot of others with the same problem. it is a very sensitive plant but it will reward you for being gentle. Once you flip the lights though i would start nutes at full strenght for bloom. Besides that topping may be a good idea. if you only have 5 of them youll probably have the space so definately top but if youre growing other strains as well id recommend using a single cola. otherwise the BM can really stretch out. i have 2 very indica dominant phenos and theyre still pretty stretchy. Here are pics though. obviously one is topped and one is a single cola. And just one last point, of the 4 strains in this box it is my second favorite. anymore questions just ask.

[soundscience4.0]

Hey again!! Looks like that seed I got is germinating pretty good. I got those cfl's all set and threw my girls under them. Only thing is that I think I put the lights too close to the plants. The leaves on the top layers of some of the plants kind of started drooping. They were standing pretty tall before, then this mornig I noticed that they were drooping a little. The plants are about 6-7 inches tall but I had the bulbs right on them. I am using 4- 40watt CFL"S on 2 clamp lights. How far do you recommend I put the lights from the plants. I will try to get some pics up so you can tell me what you think. I also will be reciving my growroom next week so the cfls are only temp.
thanks again!!! PEACE SS4.0

[haynow]

Hey man,

Nice set up and nice girls! I was drooling over those pretty white hairs! I just started my journal today even though I'm three weeks into it. It's my first grow, so I'm learning what I can as I go from pros like you.

One thing I read in you early posts was you give your plants 24hrs of darkness before switching to 12/12. I've done a lot of reading here and don't think I've seen that b4. Do you always do that? Is it necessary?

Have you ever grown a White Russian? That's what I have.

[Buddha88]

Originally Posted by haynow

Hey man,

Nice set up and nice girls! I was drooling over those pretty white hairs! I just started my journal today even though I'm three weeks into it. It's my first grow, so I'm learning what I can as I go from pros like you.

One thing I read in you early posts was you give your plants 24hrs of darkness before switching to 12/12. I've done a lot of reading here and don't think I've seen that b4. Do you always do that? Is it necessary?

Have you ever grown a White Russian? That's what I have.

Well first man thanks for the props. im far from a pro but it always feels good to get a pat on the back. As for the 24 hours of darkness, it REALLY helps bring on flowering in my experience, well only in MATURE plants. i tried it on some clones and seedlings once but it didnt really help any. In mature plants i usually notice that hairs have started within 3 days. The idea is that the lack of light stresses the plants into flowering. I have some friends that do it for 48 hours but i tried it and my plants stretched alot. theres plenty of articles on it all around the internet.

[Buddha88]

Originally Posted by haynow

Hey man,

Nice set up and nice girls! I was drooling over those pretty white hairs! I just started my journal today even though I'm three weeks into it. It's my first grow, so I'm learning what I can as I go from pros like you.

One thing I read in you early posts was you give your plants 24hrs of darkness before switching to 12/12. I've done a lot of reading here and don't think I've seen that b4. Do you always do that? Is it necessary?

Have you ever grown a White Russian? That's what I have.

Hey sorry i ment to respond to your white russian question too but was blitzed earlier lol. ive never grown it but with AK47 and Widow you cant go wrong. id imagine its pretty quick flowering and probably a good, potent smoke. post the link to your journal id love to check out your plants. im always looking for new strains to put in my garden and i trust what i see real growers doing on here versus a seedbank write up lol. thanks again for stopping by and if none of my earlier rant made sense just lent me know... like i said pretty far gone lol.

[haynow]

Originally Posted by Buddha88

Hey sorry i ment to respond to your white russian question too but was blitzed earlier lol. ive never grown it but with AK47 and Widow you cant go wrong. id imagine its pretty quick flowering and probably a good, potent smoke. post the link to your journal id love to check out your plants. im always looking for new strains to put in my garden and i trust what i see real growers doing on here versus a seedbank write up lol. thanks again for stopping by and if none of my earlier rant made sense just lent me know... like i said pretty far gone lol.

No worries Buddha. Here is the link.
http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-gr...e-russian.html

Not much there. I just added another tie down on the LST action.

I have read that the WR is crazy potent. The funny thing is the seed bank said it's mostly Sativa, but all the other sites say it's Indica. Oh well, I'm sure it will be good. I'll def let you know.

Couple questions. Of course if I had your set up I wouldn't have to worry about these. Anyway, temp fluctuations. I'm afraid when it's lights off the temp is going to go really low. Will that cause them to herm? Any idea of how to add a little heat at night without burning the house down or giving off any light? Also, as you will see in one of my pics, my set up is not really conducive to a proper exhaust. I've also blown way through my budget. Any ideas on how to contain what's supposed to be a very oderific flower?

Sorry for all the questions...just want a good harvest (of course) and not to get busted.

Thanks for your input!

[Buddha88]

Originally Posted by haynow

No worries Buddha. Here is the link.
http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-gr...e-russian.html

Not much there. I just added another tie down on the LST action.

I have read that the WR is crazy potent. The funny thing is the seed bank said it's mostly Sativa, but all the other sites say it's Indica. Oh well, I'm sure it will be good. I'll def let you know.

Couple questions. Of course if I had your set up I wouldn't have to worry about these. Anyway, temp fluctuations. I'm afraid when it's lights off the temp is going to go really low. Will that cause them to herm? Any idea of how to add a little heat at night without burning the house down or giving off any light? Also, as you will see in one of my pics, my set up is not really conducive to a proper exhaust. I've also blown way through my budget. Any ideas on how to contain what's supposed to be a very oderific flower?

Sorry for all the questions...just want a good harvest (of course) and not to get busted.

Thanks for your input!

Well bro your plants are looking pretty good. still very young plants but looking very nice. heres some answeres to your questions as well as some of my own personal input. As for the LST you might want to give it a break. your plants are still very young and dont really need to be tied down yet. Wait til there like 8" to 12" tall then tie the top down. THat way your getting more substantial growth. THe idea behind LST is that you can grow a very tall plant in a not so tall space, but youre pulling it down so early that your forcing it to grow in the dirt. dont be afraid to let them get a little big, looks like you have plenty of space. Anyways as for temp fluctuations, dont worry about it. Ideal temp is between 79-81* F. My box is usually about 80 but when the lights are off it can drop down to the high 60s sometimes. nothing to worry about though. As long as your temps arent going below 65 you wont have any problems. Changes in temps are natural like that in nature, plants are equipped to deal with it. as far as smell goes though, youre gonna need a filter and fan. It looks like that fan blows straight outside, and without a filter someone is gonna notice what youre doing lol. WR is suppose to be hella stinky from the AK so keep it in mind. Theres the answers to the questions but i posted more info on your journal so check there as well.

[Buddha88]

Well its day 26 of 12/12 and things are booming. sorry im doing a shitty job of updating this journal but i dont have time to snap pics and edit em and what not all the time right now(job gets in the way since i dont have space to grow full time right now).Anyways the plants are budding quick and you can already see trichs on alot of them(tried to get em in the photos). I bumped up nutes to %150 and ill put em up to %200 Sunday. you can see that there all getting pretty big and the buds are almost doubling in size everyday. its very exciting. the smell is insane as well, the white skunk being my favorite. its a very pungent lemon, almost like a cleaner, and im really hoping it holds over into the taste. anyways here are the pics. The plants are about 3 feet now. the bub is only 22".

[Master_Kush]

Beautiful garden. Listen dude. I don't know what kind of nutes your using but you may wanna cut back, you may already have nute burn. I use Fox Farm the whole lot of 6, super thrive, seaweed, & florilicious plus for a foliar spray once a week. These nutes come strong friend. Also remember your plants could grow in just dirt. There is no need to give them more than recommended. Nutes are to help the plant along in growing. If anything you should give less. Remember the plant can never be better than what it came from. What are you feeding them ?

[Buddha88]

Originally Posted by Master_Kush

Beautiful garden. Listen dude. I don't know what kind of nutes your using but you may wanna cut back, you may already have nute burn. I use Fox Farm the whole lot of 6, super thrive, seaweed, & florilicious plus for a foliar spray once a week. These nutes come strong friend. Also remember your plants could grow in just dirt. There is no need to give them more than recommended. Nutes are to help the plant along in growing. If anything you should give less. Remember the plant can never be better than what it came from. What are you feeding them ?

Thanks for the concern bro but i always do this. Once the plant has reached maturity it can handle several times the recommended dose. ive even read about people who feed at 3-400% in hydro grows. I use foxfarm only the basic 3 but i have considered adding beastie bloomz to the mix. Alot of that stuff is just overlapping product though or minimally effective so i dont blow the loot on it. as far as nute burn goes its pretty obvious when your fan leaves start browning so obviously id stop giving 150% if that was the case. And additional nutes can really increase growth and potency in your final product. More nutes will lead to more buds, more trichomes, and more overall growth especially in bigger plants. True you could grow in plain soil but thats why you get shitty, airy, light buds ya feel. When you add the nutes you get rock hard nugs, more thc, increased yields etc. Sure genetics is important but an abunance of light, nutes, and air is the real key to a good harvest. the real flaw in your logic though is that one feeding schedule can accomodatea 1foot and 2 foot or even 5 foot plant. bigger plants need more nutrients. thanks for the concern though bro but heavy feeding is the proven way to go(long as you know what youre doing)

[Master_Kush]

I see the size of your plants. Mine are usually 3.5-4.5ft. I don't use just the 3 liquids. The liquids you can go over on all day. When you get into the powders like Open Sesame, Beastie Blooms, & Cha-Ching if you go over like you are you will burn. When I started I was using all 6 & went just under 200%. It was my 1st grow. The buds tasted of nutes but what really caught my attention was the day I threw a cigg butt into the used flower pot w/ the used dirt in it. The nutes were so strong that the dirt starting smoking & was catching fire. This blew my mind. Flammable dirt ? I been doing the soil thing steady for a while & hydro. If your gonna pick up just one Fox Farm powder I would recommend getting the cha ching. I didn't know you were just using liquids but I have experience with all the Fox Farm powders & I'm just trying to help letting you know they are way strong. I have really good teachers with more balls than me who grow monsters. They are also close friends. Just trying to share experience & knowledge friend. I too slack on my journal cause I mess with diffrent strains all the time & run 2 rooms for constant production. Here is a pic of my bloom room, this is right out of vegg. I'm still setting up this & that & will show you all the whole op very soon. This pic is a little less than 3 weeks old. I will take more pics tomorrow night when they wake up. If I tell ya something bro I'm not talking out of my ass. I wanna share knowledge & watch everyone prosper. I learned alot from being told myself. Sorry, I didn't mean to step on any toes.

[haynow]

Originally Posted by Buddha88

Well its day 26 of 12/12 and things are booming. sorry im doing a shitty job of updating this journal but i dont have time to snap pics and edit em and what not all the time right now(job gets in the way since i dont have space to grow full time right now).Anyways the plants are budding quick and you can already see trichs on alot of them(tried to get em in the photos). I bumped up nutes to %150 and ill put em up to %200 Sunday. you can see that there all getting pretty big and the buds are almost doubling in size everyday. its very exciting. the smell is insane as well, the white skunk being my favorite. its a very pungent lemon, almost like a cleaner, and im really hoping it holds over into the taste. anyways here are the pics. The plants are about 3 feet now. the bub is only 22".

Buddha!!! Looking god man! If I'm able to get my crop to that stage I will be stoked.
Hey, I looked at that scrubber on ebay you sent yesterday. I may go for it. Here is the stupid question. Is there any reason is has to be "vented'? As long as I have circulation with those ghetto fans couldn't it just run inside the closet?

[Buddha88]

Originally Posted by Master_Kush

I see the size of your plants. Mine are usually 3.5-4.5ft. I don't use just the 3 liquids. The liquids you can go over on all day. When you get into the powders like Open Sesame, Beastie Blooms, & Cha-Ching if you go over like you are you will burn. When I started I was using all 6 & went just under 200%. It was my 1st grow. The buds tasted of nutes but what really caught my attention was the day I threw a cigg butt into the used flower pot w/ the used dirt in it. The nutes were so strong that the dirt starting smoking & was catching fire. This blew my mind. Flammable dirt ? I been doing the soil thing steady for a while & hydro. If your gonna pick up just one Fox Farm powder I would recommend getting the cha ching. I didn't know you were just using liquids but I have experience with all the Fox Farm powders & I'm just trying to help letting you know they are way strong. I have really good teachers with more balls than me who grow monsters. They are also close friends. Just trying to share experience & knowledge friend. I too slack on my journal cause I mess with diffrent strains all the time & run 2 rooms for constant production. Here is a pic of my bloom room, this is right out of vegg. I'm still setting up this & that & will show you all the whole op very soon. This pic is a little less than 3 weeks old. I will take more pics tomorrow night when they wake up. If I tell ya something bro I'm not talking out of my ass. I wanna share knowledge & watch everyone prosper. I learned alot from being told myself. Sorry, I didn't mean to step on any toes.

O theres no hard feeling friend. i think it was a misunderstanding on both our parts. had i known you were talking about the solubles i wouldnt have gone on such a tangent. plus sometimes i go on somewhat of a rant when im blitzed lol. didnt mean for it to come off so harsh, sometimes i guess thats just how the words seem. your room looks dope though bro i wish i had space to set up some boxes like that. Are you using bubblebuckets or and ebb and grow system in those pics? cant really tell since i cant see it all. Im fascinated by hydro but i cant ever seem to pull it off. i learned to grow outdoors when i was younger and since moving and having to take the operation inside the whole thing blows my brain lol. Also what strain is that? looking very good. let me know when you get a journal going ill def stop by.

[Buddha88]

Originally Posted by haynow

Buddha!!! Looking god man! If I'm able to get my crop to that stage I will be stoked.
Hey, I looked at that scrubber on ebay you sent yesterday. I may go for it. Here is the stupid question. Is there any reason is has to be "vented'? As long as I have circulation with those ghetto fans couldn't it just run inside the closet?

yes bro unfortunately it will have to be "vented". thats why i suggested using a piece of plywood to cover the window. you need to seal off your grow area so that your fan pull all the exhausted air through your filter and then blows it out. If you placed a fan filter combo in your closet and still used that oscillating fan, then you would only be filtering half the air and fan would blow the other half(still stinky) into your attic. see how it works now?