My First Indoor Hydroponics Blue Mystic

Hello GC,

This Is My First Time Growing And Any Useful Tips Would Be Greatly Appreciated. I'm Using A Hydroponics System I Made Myself. It's A 10 Gallon Tote And I Cut 2 Holes In It For 2 Pots (I Only Want To Grow 2 At A Time). I Also Have A Pump Placed Into The Tote That Pumps The Nutes To The Plants. The Pump Is On 24 Hrs A Day And A Air Stone Is Also Placed Next To The Pump And That Is Also On 24 Hrs A Day. I'm Using CNS17 As My Primary Nute For My Vegging But I Also Mix In "The Original Pure Blend Metabolic Grow Formula" And I Have To Honestly Say It Is Doing Wonders For Me. Everything Is Going Good So Far But I Need To Section Off My Closet With Some More Mylar And Hopefully Begin To Flower. I'm On My 8th Week Of Vegging And She Is Ready To Be Flowered. My Only Question I Have At This Moment Is... What Nutes Are Best For Flowering? I Have Fox Farm Big Bloom Right Now And I Heard It Works Well But I'm Always Willing To Hear About Different Nutes Out There And What They Can Do. I Forgot To Mention I'm Using A Glow Panel LED Grow Light. It Covers 1.5 Square Ft And Is 14W (It Says It Replaces A 75W HPS But Who Knows). I'm Aware It's A Crappy Light But I'm A Rookie Guys And I'm Definitely Learning From My Mistakes. I'm Planning On Ordering A Better Light Later Today And See What That Can Do For My Plants And The Buds . The Strain I'm Growing Is 2 Blue Mystic Fems And I Have 2 Snow White Fem Seeds On Stand By. I Will Be Posting Pictures Of My Ladies Later Today And Hopefully I Can Get More Feed Back About My Growing And Useful Tips. So In Conclusion GC, Let Me Know What You Think. Thanks Everyone

Lets see the setup, sounds cool.

Thanks Man... I Have To Say It Is Pretty Cool But I Don't Have A Cam Right Now And My Camera Phone Should Be Coming In Later This Week. Believe You Me, I Will Be Posting Pics As Soon As I Get My Hands On Any Way, Shape, Or Form Of A Camera. Any Advice On When To Flower And Flowering Nutes?

Hey GC, Here Is My Set Up. I Know Its Crappy And I'm Not Doing Much But I'm Still Learning... Any Tips Guys?

looking alittle streched might want to lower or add more light other than that looks good

Thanks! I Don't Have More Light But I'm Going To Lower The Light As Soon As I Get Home... I Will Be Updating With Pictures Every Week So Pull Up A Chair And Roll Up. Do You Think Its Time To Flower Or Not Yet?

no she just a baby !

LOL! I'm Going To Wait To Flower Her Until She Is 1 Foot Tall. Right Now She Is 9 Inches So I Should Be Flowering Real Soon. Will Be Posting Updated Pictures This Weekend. I'm Using Different Nutes So I'm Dying To See If It Will Help It Grow As Fast As Most Of The Plants I See On Here. I'm Now Using G.H Flora Series... What Do You Think Guys? BTW Thanks For All The Views And Responses So Far!

I think that's kinda impressive that you grew that plant with a 14w LED. I've only seen 1 other grow that used a single 14w LED and he got like, an 1/8, out of it .

What kind of lighting are you considering? What are your limitations (money, heat, space?) CFL, HPS or LED?

Really? Well, thanks and I definitely appreciate the compliment. I believe I can do a lot better with correcting my nutes problem and definitely a better light. I rather not leave a heat print and im trying to take it easy on my light bill so im thinking about sticking with LED's. Do you or anyone know where to get some good LED's and for a good price? I appreciate everything so far guys and let me know how I can help too

Give me for specifications/limitations and we're see what we can brainstorm
hope this helps...

I in no way shape or form work for or are trying to advertise for them, but based on everything on the market, you really can't beat the prices on BLACKSTAR LED units.

Here's your problem. Those 225 red/blue panel lights are 30-40$ ea., maybe cheaper if you buy 2x or 4x at a time, but they don't have the penetration to grow any real weight, the diodes i'm sure are cheap and random spectrum.

I wouldn't go smaller than 90w's of LED but it's also not wise to invest in the cheaper 90w UFO lights that use 1watt LED's. These too have proven to not have enough penetration. 3w is the best common standard available. But I'm sensing you want the best bang for your buck so here's what i recommend for a small successful grow.

150w HPS can be found for around $90 - cheap, easy, can grow a few ounces.
get a large fan and blow across the bottom of the light (10-20$)

or

90watt UFO using 2w LEDs for around $150 on Ebay - minimum 2w diodes for flowering.

But if you can muster the cash i don't think you can beat the
240watt blackstar 3w LED - About $300
and the 150w Dr. Growrite w/ 3 watt diodes looks good too - $225
These are all ebay LED units.
LED's are an Investment Heavy, Long Term Rewards product. You will be more more satisfied if you can get somthing that gives good results and carry you into future generations of LED growing.(don't get first generation stuff)

and

Depending on how many watts you are willing to use, go to homedepot. They sell Cord/Socket for 5-6$, 42watt 2700K CFL's are 8$ and you can easily add 2600lumens for supplemental lighting. "Y" splitter for two bulbs per light socket.

You could do an entire CFL grow, heat not being much of an issue, but by the time you buy all the blubs, sockets, cords, power strips. You're probably really close to having enough to purchasing a better single unit light.

Hey guys, I been busy and need some help with this... I been flowering for 1 week and 3 days and I don't see anything. I'm using a LED and nothing is happening... can anyone tell me why?? Here go some pics

nothing is happening because it is too soon to flower that seedling and its only been 1 week anyway. also it doesnt look healthy. what is your pH? ppm?
get some more light in there! forget the little 14W LED for the sole light source. at least add in a couple of CFL's. will cost you almost nothing up front and the same for power.

nothing is happening because it is too soon to flower that seedling and its only been 1 week anyway. also it doesnt look healthy. what is your pH? ppm?
get some more light in there! forget the little 14W LED for the sole light source. at least add in a couple of CFL's. will cost you almost nothing up front and the same for power.

I had the plant in veg for a LONG time and its more than 1 ft tall. I know the plant look hurt but im trying to get it to recover and hopefully atleast get something from it... this is my first grow so its trial and error for me. I'm thinking of cutting off the dried out leaves and changing the light from 12/12 to 11/13 or even 10/14. You mentioned its only been 1 week... how long does it take to see the white hairs im looking for?

its vegged for over 8 weeks and thats what it looks like sorry dude but you are wasting your time just bein honest no disrespect keep your led if you want add supplemental cfls or go hid 2 weeks u should def see the sex of your plant males show sooner your first grow you should've just stuck with the good ole soil and dont shorten your light cycle anymore 12/12 is the magic number

just because it has been in veg for 8 weeks doesnt mean you should put it into flower.
i would not put any plant into flower if it is not healthy and growing actively. some plants will show sex in a week, others 2 weeks, but a sick plant will take even longer. if that was mine i would leave it on 12/12 for another week until it shows its sex and then put it back into veg 24/0 until it is healthy, bigger, and growing well. then you can put it into flower (assuming its female)
with such a shitty light you really really need to train that plant. read up on scrog. and if you really care about that plant you will at least add a CFL. it will only cost you $10. also as you didnt mention pH or ppm i guess you dont have meters. you cant grow hydro without them. they also cost $10-15 on ebay. so invest the few $ or change to soil.

if you dont listen to my and the others advice and make some changes you will get a 10 minute smoke session out of 8 months of work.

just because it has been in veg for 8 weeks doesnt mean you should put it into flower.
i would not put any plant into flower if it is not healthy and growing actively. some plants will show sex in a week, others 2 weeks, but a sick plant will take even longer. if that was mine i would leave it on 12/12 for another week until it shows its sex and then put it back into veg 24/0 until it is healthy, bigger, and growing well. then you can put it into flower (assuming its female)
with such a shitty light you really really need to train that plant. read up on scrog. and if you really care about that plant you will at least add a CFL. it will only cost you $10. also as you didnt mention pH or ppm i guess you dont have meters. you cant grow hydro without them. they also cost $10-15 on ebay. so invest the few $ or change to soil.

if you dont listen to my and the others advice and make some changes you will get a 10 minute smoke session out of 8 months of work.

First and foremost i would like to thank EVERYONE who replied to my journal and is continuing to do so . I dont take any offense to anything because im learning from you guys and that is making me a better grower. Thanks for everything and im taking everyone's advice. After looking on ebay, i can have both the ppm meter and the ph meter for nomore than 30 bucks so im definitely ordering them this wednesday for sure. As of right now i put some more bull crap lights in there to hopefully help it a lil and i just adjusted the ph. I will keep you guys posted and im posting some new pics if not tonight then definitely tomorrow... Thanks alot guys for real! Peace

good to see. hopefully we can help you salvage your first grow. everyone starts somewhere.
what "bull crap" lights have you added?
let us know what your pH and ppm readings were when you get the meters.

Do you or anyone know where to get some good LED's and for a good price?

HA! If you found GOOD LEDs for a good price let us all know. To my knowledge they don't exist. I have a piece of shit LED that cost $700 originally.

EDIT: It's not really a piece of shit but not worth the price, plus i dont really use it. I use some CFLs over it for my secondary applications.

I added 1 100W/1200 lumens bulb to my flowering room, I don't see anything as of now but im being patient. I also changed the res and fixed the PH to a 5.8... I'm thinking about cutting off ALL of the lower leaves because they are curling badly and i think the top part of the plant can use that energy to form new healthier leaves. What do you think?? Here are the pics...