Evolution and Racism

If you believe in the theory of evolution the logical conclusion to your world view on ethnicity has to equal racism. It can't be anything else. According to the theory, Africans are the least developed ethnic group of the human race. That's messed up man. And on top of that, it's a freakin' theory, not a fact... but it's taught as evidentiary backed truth... trip on this:

Expelled (Full Movie) - YouTube

...and tell me this $#!T ain't political.

or that you could acknowledge that different races may be more naturally inclined to be better at certain things while still accepting everyone as human.

Yeah, but at the root there still exists the "Evolutionary Ladder". And unfortunately, according to this theory, the closer a man or woman is to our apparent universally conjoined ancestral roots in Africa, the farther they are from the top of the ladder.
The evolutionary theory is the father of ethnic cleansing.

Your mistake is in believing that different species are more developed than others. That is not at all the truth. We're all just different. No single species currently living is more developed or "better" than another, and that applies to race as well. The idea of evolution is that organisms adapt in a way that best helps them survive in their environment. For example: a fish is a hell of a lot better at living in the ocean than we are. Does that make them more developed than us? No, it doesn't.

We as humans often make the mistake that we're better than every other species because of our intelligence. We're not. We may be able to cope with changing environments better than other species, but that's an adaption. In the end, we're no better than our genes, just like every other species on earth.

I'd also like to point out to you that our species hasn't evolved significantly (to the point that we would diverge as a species) from the time that it first appeared on the African continent. A Caucasian man of European descent is no different genetically (at least in the sense of being a human) from a West African man. However, the West African man is much more suited toward living in his environment than the Caucasian man. For example: sickle cell anemia is a genetic disease that commonly afflicts those of African descent. As it turns out, the sickle shape of the blood cells prevents the malaria parasite from surviving. Therefore, people living in Africa adapted in such a way that made them better suited to live where they do.

Finally, I'd just like to clear up your misconceptions about what a theory is. A theory in normal terms is an assumption, a guess. A scientific theory, however, is a proposed explanation of nature that has been backed up by vigorous experimentation. It could be wrong, but because nobody has proved it to be so, we accept it as a fact.

Please don't take this as condescending. I'm just trying to help you understand what evolution really is. Most people have a lot of misconceptions regarding this sort of thing and I just wanted to clear the air.

Is it not taught within the circles that the closer a human is to our African roots, the lower they are on the evolutionary ladder? I'm not talking about macro evolution i.e. sickle cell... I'm talking about the from slime to monkey to man evolutionary theory. Based on that line of thought is the African not lower in the process of evolution? Yes. And I appreciate the clarification, however theory still means theory, no matter who comes up with it. Nothing is backed up my brother. It's all theory based on an understandable desire to figure out where we came from, or how we came to be. Unfortunately, our accepted theory has resulted in much hate, and much death. And that's just the truth.

Well see, you can't call it evolution anymore once you hit humans. After that, the species hasn't evolved significantly. I understand what you're trying to say, but the only difference between humans closer to African roots and those closer to European roots is that a long time ago, the European person's ancestors moved out of Africa to Europe. After that it's just generations of genetic drift causing the differences between us. And while technically that is evolution, it's a very insignificant amount over such a short time period. It's a misconception to think that we're anywhere different on the evolutionary ladder.

Edited by StonedOpossum, 21 July 2012 - 04:05 AM.

Is it not taught within the circles that the closer a human is to our African roots, the lower they are on the evolutionary ladder? I'm not talking about macro evolution i.e. sickle cell... I'm talking about the from slime to monkey to man evolutionary theory. Based on that line of thought is the African not lower in the process of evolution? Yes. And I appreciate the clarification, however theory still means theory, no matter who comes up with it. Nothing is backed up my brother. It's all theory based on an understandable desire to figure out where we came from, or how we came to be. Unfortunately, our accepted theory has resulted in much hate, and much death. And that's just the truth.

No it is not, homosapiens are on the same ladder as eachother, I've never heard anyone say this till now unless if talking about old timey stuff.

And we didn't evolve from monkeys,

Edited by dankydankk, 21 July 2012 - 04:01 AM.

bad thread.... just created to try and passive aggressively put an entire group of people down by saying they are lower than you on the "Evolutionary Ladder" only based on an arbitrary thing like where they happen to be born..... bad form sir.. bad form

bad thread.... just created to try and passive aggressively put an entire group of people down by saying they are lower than you on the "Evolutionary Ladder" only based on an arbitrary thing like where they happen to be born..... bad form sir.. bad form

I really don't think that's it. I think he was just high and didn't quite realize what he was saying. I've thought of some pretty ridiculous conspiracies while stoned.

bad thread.... just created to try and passive aggressively put an entire group of people down by saying they are lower than you on the "Evolutionary Ladder" only based on an arbitrary thing like where they happen to be born..... bad form sir.. bad form

High ideas brotha, high ideas... don't be angry

...and it's the evolutionary theory that is bad form, man.

Edited by babel, 23 July 2012 - 06:14 PM.

High ideas brotha, high ideas... don't be angry

...and it's the evolutionary theory that is bad form, man.

We are all homo-sapiens. No one race is more or less evolved. Plus I have NEVER heard from ANYONE that Africans are lower on the ladder of evolution idk where the fuck you got that from.

... a "theory" is the highest achievable award in science....that means that it has withheld scrutiny from the science world, and the smartest can't prove it wrong.
...so, when you say it's, "just a theory"....what do you mean?

...what about Isaac Newton's theory of gravity....when you throw something up, does it come down?...do you belive that theory?

Edited by trichome fiend, 24 July 2012 - 01:06 PM.

...start at 5:10

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPlFOF2he00]Evolution is not 'just a theory' - The Atheist Experience #501 - YouTube[/ame]

Edited by trichome fiend, 24 July 2012 - 01:03 PM.

We are all homo-sapiens. No one race is more or less evolved. Plus I have NEVER heard from ANYONE that Africans are lower on the ladder of evolution idk where the fuck you got that from.

obviously you didnt read a few posts before you.....


Yeah, but at the root there still exists the "Evolutionary Ladder". And unfortunately, according to this theory, the closer a man or woman is to our apparent universally conjoined ancestral roots in Africa, the farther they are from the top of the ladder.

good try though.... try reading, does good

You've been told that "evolution is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about evolution. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument.

The Theory of Evolution is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in evolution because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled.

In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.

Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law.

This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain.

Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory.

Evolution is the same. There's the fact of evolution. Evolution (genetic change over generations)3 happens, just like gravity does. Don't take my word for it.4 Ask your science teacher, or google it. But that's not the issue we are addressing here. The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is our best explanation for the fact of evolution. It has been tested and scrutinised for over 150 years, and is supported by all the relevant observations.

Next time someone tries to tell you that evolution is just a theory, as a way of dismissing it, as if it's just something someone guessed at, remember that they're using the non-scientific meaning of the word. If that person is a teacher, or minister, or some other figure of authority, they should know better. In fact, they probably do, and are trying to mislead you.5

Evolution is not just a theory, it's triumphantly a theory!

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1“Theory: A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.”American Heritage Dictionary
2“Scientific theories are explanations of natural phenomena built up logically from testable observations and hypotheses.”Teaching About Evolution and the Nature of Science - National Academy Press
3 A standard, scientific definition of evolution is: “In fact, evolution can be precisely defined as any change in the frequency of alleles within a gene pool from one generation to the next.”Biology - Helena Curtis and N. Sue Barnes, W H Freeman
4“Evolutionists have been clear about this distinction between fact and theory from the very beginning, if only because we have always acknowledged how far we are from completely understanding the mechanisms (theory) by which evolution (fact) occurred. Darwin continually emphasized the difference between his two great and separate accomplishments: establishing the fact of evolution, and proposing a theory - natural selection - to explain the mechanism of evolution.”Evolution as Fact and Theory - Stephen Jay Gould
5 The Cobb County School Board required a sticker with the following text to be placed on all biology textbooks: “This textbook contains material on evolution. Evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered.”Decision of the Court Striking Down the Cobb County Evolution Disclaimer

oh my just let this thread die....before people get anal

...that sounds shitty.

Actually, different races are quite genetically different considering we're of the same species. Look it up. Oh, and remember "the missing link"?

obviously you didnt read a few posts before you.....


Yeah, but at the root there still exists the "Evolutionary Ladder". And unfortunately, according to this theory, the closer a man or woman is to our apparent universally conjoined ancestral roots in Africa, the farther they are from the top of the ladder.

good try though.... try reading, does good

It's not fair to even say an 'Evolutionary Ladder' exists. While species have evolved chronologically, the ladder infers that one species is higher up than another, which is a complete fallacy. It's a tree. A tree with a base where we all started from, and branches that show us where we are. This notion that a species being more evolved means that it's superior is ludicrous.

It's not fair to even say an 'Evolutionary Ladder' exists. While species have evolved chronologically, the ladder infers that one species is higher up than another, which is a complete fallacy. It's a tree. A tree with a base where we all started from, and branches that show us where we are. This notion that a species being more evolved means that it's superior is ludicrous.

u do know i was quoting the person who posted before me right? i completely agree with you....

Mix the smartest Africans with the smartest Asians >>>> the IQ of most whites

Plus I best the women turn out pretty hot too.