Underground Stealth Grow - Page 3

CrazyChronic · #31 (**permalink**) 09-10-2009, 11:20 PM

good point

HyperBUD · #32 (**permalink**) 09-11-2009, 12:19 AM

Shoot even with the space that you have now in the basement. Build a wall that runs the whole side off it and make it look as if that all your basement is. Then somehow make it so that you can move a couple of them. I would say keep it small so that you and slide in and out easy. Theres your entrance. Also dont buy things with credit or debit only cash. just to be safe. Run power into the room and than your all set to go hey if you do it right you have your self a little panic rom as well. Then for the air hook the vent up to a pipe that runs out of your house somewhere no ones going to run into it. Even add a carbon filter so that you can walk in the area and dont need to worry bout smell.

CrazyChronic · #33 (**permalink**) 09-11-2009, 12:44 AM

haha seems like u have this all planned out

HyperBUD · #34 (**permalink**) 09-11-2009, 12:52 AM

Lets just say i have a big house when my parents pass it over to me. Someone needs to think these things up. lol

olazabal · #35 (**permalink**) 09-13-2009, 06:28 AM

It's been done before

CrazyChronic · #36 (**permalink**) 09-13-2009, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by olazabal

It's been done before

thanks...

Ryan7926 · #37 (**permalink**) 09-17-2009, 04:40 AM

Hahahahahahahahahahaha siiiicccckkkk ddduuuuddeee

HyperBUD · #38 (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 09:52 AM

Okay now i need to know what would be the benefit to having it underground? I mean really if you cant grow in your basement( That you have why bother risking your life to water a plant?)

TankOne · #39 (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 07:29 PM

its not a bad idea but it needs wayyy more planning hahaha

HyperBUD · #40 (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 09:00 PM

True True

2Lazy · #41 (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 11:15 PM

Everyone here is very short-sighted, getting caught up on the 1 foot of soil thing. Wah!!! I'm and Engineer... LMAO!!!

Anyone with half a brain can pull this off. What, like our ancestors for the last 10,000+ years haven't been digging holes?

Okay, first thing first, If I were going to do this I'd probably dig a hole that was longer than it was deep or wide. Say 20'Lx12'Wx12'D. The kind of soil in your area is very important to consider. If you live in a sandy area then this is probably 100% a bad idea. If you live in an area that has a high clay content in the soil you should be alright. Also, where you build is important. Don't put it at the bottom of a hill, or anywhere near an incline. Nebraska, Oaklahoma, think flat!

So you've got a flat spot, good thick clay soil, and a big hole. Dig two additional trenches, one for the electrical and one for the water, and place these systems where they can run into your hole. Now you build a four sided retaining wall in your hole using cinder block, cement, and rebar. Then construct a raised flooring, like a deck, so that water can drain under and away. Install 4x4 supports every foot along the wall and use 4x4 beams as ceiling support but have a slight slant (like a roof would have). Then use a very thick, high grade kind of plywood, cover that with tar paper, and cover all of that in a few layers of 4mil plastic. Then you can add a thin layer of dirt over the top of the structure from 4" to 10" deep and cover the area with sod. You'll need a couple fake rocks to cover the ladder entrance, and the intake and exhaust tubes.

From the inside I would line all the walls with that cheap workshop particle board that has the tiny holes in it. This will give you some reflection while allowing water to seep through rather than pool. You'll probably want a couple 1000w systems, or if you're a real baller, a couple of 1200w (2x600) systems would be even better. Add in a 600cfm fan minimum, AC unit, carbon filter, space heater, bulbs, hydroponic systems, and all that.

I'm guessing a project like this would probably run $10,000 to $20,000 when it's all said and done. But it could, of course, pay for itself in 6 months. The shipping crate isn't a horrible idea either, it's just getting a hold of one that I would imagine might be hard. Everything I've spoken about could be purchased from your local hardware store, even the knowledge of how to build retaining walls, load bearing roofs, and drainage decks.

HyperBUD · #42 (**permalink**) 10-18-2009, 11:25 AM

Now see thats what im talking about right there lol. But im still going with a room in a cellar. Now what i want to know is how hard would it be to build a room under the basement that i have now?

bcherb2 · #43 (**permalink**) 10-19-2009, 03:10 AM

these are all very bad ideas, not only does all of this sound extraordinarily unsafe, but, in the future you could get fined for not having this coded correctly, and when you sell the house youll have to undo all of this.

kizzlesnbits · #44 (**permalink**) 10-19-2009, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samiel

there was a grow in BC a few years ago that used buried train cars, generators, and like 150 lights.... there were 20 train cars buried 2 wide and 10 deep.. the thing was wicked nasty, and would could have been going again w/ very little cash to replace what wires the police did cut (idiots only cut the wires in 1 place.... simple splice and wham you're back growing) they left EVERYTHING except the plants.....

this is from the movie, "The Union"....watch it

Caprican · #45 (**permalink**) 10-19-2009, 04:08 AM

Honestly if you have the space to do a 20x20 hole in your back yard, just buy a freaking greenhouse... The walls and ceiling are opaque so people won't be able to see what you're growing, and its like a billion times less conspicuous than having a backhoe dig a swimming-pool sized hole and then the next time they look its been "filled in" again.

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#31 (permalink) 09-10-2009, 11:20 PM
CrazyChronic Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 76	Re: Underground Stealth Grow good point __________________ Need A Customized Signature Pic Like Mine Go Here! My first grow journal - ak-48 hydro CFL grow ATM "Never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level the beat you with experience"

#32 (permalink) 09-11-2009, 12:19 AM
HyperBUD Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cali Posts: 75	Re: Underground Stealth Grow Shoot even with the space that you have now in the basement. Build a wall that runs the whole side off it and make it look as if that all your basement is. Then somehow make it so that you can move a couple of them. I would say keep it small so that you and slide in and out easy. Theres your entrance. Also dont buy things with credit or debit only cash. just to be safe. Run power into the room and than your all set to go hey if you do it right you have your self a little panic rom as well. Then for the air hook the vent up to a pipe that runs out of your house somewhere no ones going to run into it. Even add a carbon filter so that you can walk in the area and dont need to worry bout smell.

#33 (permalink) 09-11-2009, 12:44 AM
CrazyChronic Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 76	Re: Underground Stealth Grow haha seems like u have this all planned out __________________ Need A Customized Signature Pic Like Mine Go Here! My first grow journal - ak-48 hydro CFL grow ATM "Never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level the beat you with experience"

#34 (permalink) 09-11-2009, 12:52 AM
HyperBUD Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cali Posts: 75	Re: Underground Stealth Grow Lets just say i have a big house when my parents pass it over to me. Someone needs to think these things up. lol

#35 (permalink) 09-13-2009, 06:28 AM
olazabal Battle of the Bulge Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MENDO Posts: 20	Re: Underground Stealth Grow It's been done before __________________ *hit bongs all day longs*

#37 (permalink) 09-17-2009, 04:40 AM
Ryan7926 smokin that shit!!! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sandisfield Posts: 109	Re: Underground Stealth Grow Hahahahahahahahahahaha siiiicccckkkk ddduuuuddeee __________________ SMOKE IT UP

#38 (permalink) 10-16-2009, 09:52 AM
HyperBUD Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cali Posts: 75	Re: Underground Stealth Grow Okay now i need to know what would be the benefit to having it underground? I mean really if you cant grow in your basement( That you have why bother risking your life to water a plant?)

#39 (permalink) 10-16-2009, 07:29 PM
TankOne Tan Stars got me ROLLiN Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 950	Re: Underground Stealth Grow its not a bad idea but it needs wayyy more planning hahaha __________________ I'm HERE. Like me, love me, or hate me.

#40 (permalink) 10-16-2009, 09:00 PM
HyperBUD Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cali Posts: 75	Re: Underground Stealth Grow True True

#41 (permalink) 10-16-2009, 11:15 PM
2Lazy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 243	Re: Underground Stealth Grow Everyone here is very short-sighted, getting caught up on the 1 foot of soil thing. Wah!!! I'm and Engineer... LMAO!!! Anyone with half a brain can pull this off. What, like our ancestors for the last 10,000+ years haven't been digging holes? Okay, first thing first, If I were going to do this I'd probably dig a hole that was longer than it was deep or wide. Say 20'Lx12'Wx12'D. The kind of soil in your area is very important to consider. If you live in a sandy area then this is probably 100% a bad idea. If you live in an area that has a high clay content in the soil you should be alright. Also, where you build is important. Don't put it at the bottom of a hill, or anywhere near an incline. Nebraska, Oaklahoma, think flat! So you've got a flat spot, good thick clay soil, and a big hole. Dig two additional trenches, one for the electrical and one for the water, and place these systems where they can run into your hole. Now you build a four sided retaining wall in your hole using cinder block, cement, and rebar. Then construct a raised flooring, like a deck, so that water can drain under and away. Install 4x4 supports every foot along the wall and use 4x4 beams as ceiling support but have a slight slant (like a roof would have). Then use a very thick, high grade kind of plywood, cover that with tar paper, and cover all of that in a few layers of 4mil plastic. Then you can add a thin layer of dirt over the top of the structure from 4" to 10" deep and cover the area with sod. You'll need a couple fake rocks to cover the ladder entrance, and the intake and exhaust tubes. From the inside I would line all the walls with that cheap workshop particle board that has the tiny holes in it. This will give you some reflection while allowing water to seep through rather than pool. You'll probably want a couple 1000w systems, or if you're a real baller, a couple of 1200w (2x600) systems would be even better. Add in a 600cfm fan minimum, AC unit, carbon filter, space heater, bulbs, hydroponic systems, and all that. I'm guessing a project like this would probably run $10,000 to $20,000 when it's all said and done. But it could, of course, pay for itself in 6 months. The shipping crate isn't a horrible idea either, it's just getting a hold of one that I would imagine might be hard. Everything I've spoken about could be purchased from your local hardware store, even the knowledge of how to build retaining walls, load bearing roofs, and drainage decks.

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#42 (permalink) 10-18-2009, 11:25 AM
HyperBUD Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cali Posts: 75	Re: Underground Stealth Grow Now see thats what im talking about right there lol. But im still going with a room in a cellar. Now what i want to know is how hard would it be to build a room under the basement that i have now?

#43 (permalink) 10-19-2009, 03:10 AM
bcherb2 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 50	Re: Underground Stealth Grow these are all very bad ideas, not only does all of this sound extraordinarily unsafe, but, in the future you could get fined for not having this coded correctly, and when you sell the house youll have to undo all of this.

#45 (permalink) 10-19-2009, 04:08 AM
Caprican Edibles & Vape Advocate Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 648	Re: Underground Stealth Grow Honestly if you have the space to do a 20x20 hole in your back yard, just buy a freaking greenhouse... The walls and ceiling are opaque so people won't be able to see what you're growing, and its like a billion times less conspicuous than having a backhoe dig a swimming-pool sized hole and then the next time they look its been "filled in" again.