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Old 05-03-2009, 07:34 PM
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Another DIY Carbon Scrubber For less than $40!!

Theres a couple DIY carbon Scrubbers on here. I figure I could add my own design in the hopes that it will fit someone's application better than others, or inspire them to build their own, like I was. This application is suited for small grows (I only have 2 plants, grown under 130w of CFLs).

I bought all parts from Home Depot and Petsmart. The total cost was less than 40 dollars, a small price to pay for security!

First thing's first! Lets look at materials and prices:
(HD=Home Depot)(PM=Petsmart)(HI=household item)
Web Absorber Furnace/AC Carbon Filter x 1 (HD) $12
Adjustable 3 inch 90 Degree Ducting Elbow x 1 (HD) $4
5 feet of 6x24 19 guage chicken fence x 1 (HD) $7
1/2 Gallon of Activated Carbon For Fish Filters x1 (PM) $12
Panty Hose x 1 (HI)
Duct tape x 1 (HI)
Zip Ties x As many as you need (HI)

So now that we have our material list, let's begin the build. As a note for my exhaust, I have a 3 inch PVC 90 degree street elbow attached to a 3 inch male adaptor with the threaded side going out my box. The adjustable furnace elbow fits PERFECTLY into the threaded end of the male adaptor.

This is our filter, elbow, and fencing. Ignore the white things; they came with the filter but are ultimately useless for this application


I cut 11 inches of the chicken fence and then cut it in half, so we have one feet of length instead of two feet. Once this is cut, wrap it around the elbow so you have the right size and shape and attach it to itself. This is MUCH harder than it sounds, but it is do-able.

I used the wire that holds the fencing together to attach it to itself. To do this, take a 2 inch strip of the wire and thread it through some of the squares so it cant unravel. I did this on the top, middle and end of my cylinder. When you are finished, it will look something like this:

Note how the 90 elbow fits into my exhaust.


Our next step is to fit our outer filter. Now the carbon filter I use has a layer of activated carbon(black) and another layer of particle trapper(blue). I use both for extra protection. The filter comes with a black plastic webbing; get rid of it, because it serves no use.



Now we take a pair of nice sharp scissors and cut the filter in half. It will fit the cut-in-half chicken wire cylinder perfectly for width


Next, we roll up our chicken wire like you roll up a sleeping bag


There will be some extra once it is rolled up. I overlap it a little bit, but I cut off the last 3 inches or so. That way there is enough, but not too much extra. Save this piece!! You never know when it might come in handy


After you removed the extra, take two of your zip ties and attach them to each other so it reaches around enough. You may need to daisy chain more than 2 depending on the size of your zip ties


Now, we roll up our "sleeping bag" again, and this time, attach the zip tie to the top of it, nice and snug


Flip, and repeat Once this is done, cut off the extra zip tie that sticks out. get as close as you can to the zip housing so as to not create a sharp spot to snag the panty hose on.


Let's bust out the panty hose now.
The purpose of the panty hose is to prevent the carbon from spilling out the bottom of the scrubber while still allowing air to pass through. If you dont have any panty hose, you can buy them pretty much anywhere that sells socks for $.99 a pair.
Remove a leg off of the hosiery, and pull it nice and tight on one side of the filter, like so.


It should look like this on the bottom if done right: (Forgive me for the overexposure)


It has now come time to fill this puppy with carbon
We take this:


And pour it into here:


So it looks like this:


I left about 2.5 inches on the top for the elbow, but once it is done, we will top it off anyway.

Now I don't have pictures for the next few steps because I modified my design at this point after I had taken pictures, so I will do my best to explain this as best as possible to explain my next picture.

Take the elbow and insert it into the filter, crimped side out. The crimped side is the one with the little ridges on it.

Once you have done that, the fun part comes. Bust out the duct tape
Take your tape, and duct tape THE SHIT out of the top where the elbow meets the filter. Use a lot, and start about 3 inches below the top edge of the filter so the tape holds the assembly together. You need a lot to support the weight of the filter. I also put a layer of tape around the top of the elbow(the crimped side) so it fits snugger.

Once you get it taped, you should be able to hold the filter vertically by the elbow and it can hold itself up from the tape. Take your carbon and fill it up a bit more through the elbow so as to top it off.

Once you do this, grab the other leg of the panty hose. This part is hard to explain without pictures, but I will do my best. Overlap the other panty hose, go just above the end zip tie and tie it off via however you can. After this, take the extra material of the first panty hose and pull it back over the second panty hose (still with me?).
After number one has overlapped number 2 again, tie it off on the bottom via a simple knot, and cut off the extra. When you are finished with all that, you will get something like this:

NOTE: I added another double zip tie in the center of the filter. This is recommended, but not needed.

VIOLA!! Your brand new carbon filter is done. This slides right into my three inch male adaptor with a perfect fit.


I have it made so that it slides right in and supports itself and hangs down, with nothing extra!

~*~FINAL STEP~*~
START ADDING THIS STUFF:


I hope you enjoyed my guide. The build was inspired by other carbon filters in GC, and a love for the herb we call Marijuana If you have any questions, do not be afraid to ask!!!
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Old 05-04-2009, 05:19 AM
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Re: Another DIY Carbon Scrubber For less than $40!!

Nice work! How did you mount it onto your grow room? Looks like you just used the expanding cocking stuff? Also, how did you mount your fan to the filter? What fan are you using?

Sorry for all the questions. I'm at this stage myself. Trying to decide what's best for me, and that would work. Thanks!c
 
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:56 PM
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Nice work! How did you mount it onto your grow room? Looks like you just used the expanding cocking stuff? Also, how did you mount your fan to the filter? What fan are you using?

Sorry for all the questions. I'm at this stage myself. Trying to decide what's best for me, and that would work. Thanks!c
The expanding cocking stuff is known as Great Stuff, and I used that just to keep everything lightproof and keep the box sealed. I didn't really mount it; originally I had planned to mount it sideways using a bracket, but then I decided to simply let it hang. It actually self supports that way.

I based my fan design off of this guide by Rumpleforeskin: http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-room...ox-pc-fan.html

It's a simple 120mm case fan. Cost me less than 15 bucks. I modified Rumple's design slightly to fit my needs. The 3" furnace elbow fits perfectly into the threaded side of a 3"male adaptor, which I am using for my exhaust. If you click on my grow journal in my sig, you can see pictures of it on the first page.

Mounting the fan was a little tricky, but I took filling wire for TIG welding and threaded it through each hole and wrapped it around the pipe, then duct taped it to hold it all in place
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I like the post, good pictures too. How well does this kill smell? Also, i think my box is similar to the one your using, i didnt account for a mounted fan in the side but i like the idea behind it. How did you cut into the wood to make the slot for the fan and pipe? (im not for carpentry skilled and have limited tools, but i would really like to add this addition to it, it would make my box a lot more stealth lol.)
 
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:13 PM
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I like the post, good pictures too. How well does this kill smell? Also, i think my box is similar to the one your using, i didnt account for a mounted fan in the side but i like the idea behind it. How did you cut into the wood to make the slot for the fan and pipe? (im not for carpentry skilled and have limited tools, but i would really like to add this addition to it, it would make my box a lot more stealth lol.)
The day I put it together, my house smelled like pot. The next day, the smell was gone entirely. I only just started flowering so I don't know how much it will do come full blown buds, but right now it's doing great.

For the mounting of the piping, I took the threaded side of the male adapter and placed it against the box where I wanted to mount it, traced the shape of it, and drilled holes around the entire circle. Once all the holes were done, I took a chisel and finished off the parts that werent drilled, and it popped right out
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Re: Another DIY Carbon Scrubber For less than $40!!

That's actually a pretty simple and easily replaceable design. + rep you gave me a good idea.
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awesome, you have given me a great way to heat sink my box for the summer while keeping it stealth. do you have an intake fan too?
 
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awesome, you have given me a great way to heat sink my box for the summer while keeping it stealth. do you have an intake fan too?
no intake fan. exhaust only
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Kushman2020 you have rep! This will become part of my design, hopefully I can get started soon. Carbon scruber for 40 will help alot!
 
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whats the pipe that is coming into the bottom of your box from the back? and is the only fan inside that little computer fan?
 
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whats the pipe that is coming into the bottom of your box from the back? and is the only fan inside that little computer fan?
Are you talking about the pipe in my grow thread?
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Kushman2020 you have rep! This will become part of my design, hopefully I can get started soon. Carbon scruber for 40 will help alot!
Haha thanks man. If you have any more questions don't be afraid to ask. I custom build mine to fit my box exactly; when you are ready I can help you design yours if you desire
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This is a great method for a cheap scrubber. I made a similar one, minus the carbon pellets/rocks, for my first grow. I really ran some stink through that thing, then gave it to a friend to use. it has lasted him two cycles now, but probably needs to get replaced soon. Good use for 40$!

i made a new one a month ago for my new setup. works great! check it out on my journal. http://forum.grasscity.com/advanced-...villaluna.html

i found that the furnace filter was sufficient at killing the stink, without the pellets. how good is the flow rate on your filter? i tried using them but i always inhibited the flow too much for it to be useful
 
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This is a great method for a cheap scrubber. I made a similar one, minus the carbon pellets/rocks, for my first grow. I really ran some stink through that thing, then gave it to a friend to use. it has lasted him two cycles now, but probably needs to get replaced soon. Good use for 40$!

i made a new one a month ago for my new setup. works great! check it out on my journal. http://forum.grasscity.com/advanced-...villaluna.html

i found that the furnace filter was sufficient at killing the stink, without the pellets. how good is the flow rate on your filter? i tried using them but i always inhibited the flow too much for it to be useful
My entire house reeked while I was still in the veg stage, so I included the activated carbon anyway just to be safe.

The filter certainly cut down my flow rate, but since I only run 150w worth of CFL's, it wasnt a big deal. I will note, however, that before the filter was installed, my humidity was at about 35%; after the install, it is running at about 45% humidity, give or take.
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Haha thanks man. If you have any more questions don't be afraid to ask. I custom build mine to fit my box exactly; when you are ready I can help you design yours if you desire
Hey Kushman I'll take you up on your offer for help. It looks like the current design will be a pc(approx 15x16x8) for clone/veg then into ?maybe a30gal rubbermaid (approx 20x32x16) for flowering. My question for these filters, can they be placed inside the pc/rubbermaid bin? I'm going for stealth and having one of these hanging outside won't work.
Any suggestions? I already got a petsmart members card so

I just found a cabinet that I forgot I was saving for this project, its approx 25x9x36 this might be the new flower box, If I can add the clone section inside I will. I still want the filters inside. Thanks
 
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