ngb style (your advice greatly appreciated)

[NeRvE]

Ok, so I have been thinking about this for quite some time. The more I think about it the more I want to, not just to save money / get away from that "bad element" and the risks that come with it, but also because I have heard it is almost like a therapy and can actually be good for you (the growing part lol).
TO GET TO THE POINT lol, I have a space in the back of my closet that is 2 ft deep, 4ft 3in high, and about 2 1/2 inches in length (side to side). I am new to this, but I have been a reader for a very long time on these boards and others and was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on the perfect ngb box (as far as stealth / quiet / odorless, while still growing enough for myself and sometimes a friend or 2 (im not telling anyone about it if i do though, will just smoke with them lol). I have some information but the more i know ahead of time, the better my plans can be, and better planning = better finished product.
I would like to use possibly a hydro system from a rubbermade tub, i saw that in the ngb box I was looking at. I did search though, like I said, I have a lot of information, just wanted to get everyone elses input first. THANK YOU EVERYONE

p.s. If I get some really good info with this thread, i'll post updates as I build as well as a guide explaining in detail everything for anyone who would be intersted, also will start a grow diary for that box that I will keep updated on the forums.

[NeRvE]

bump come on guys )

[Segue]

Good call trying to get away from the "bad element". I'd prefer never to set foot off my property with anything illegal, which is why I got started on this hobby last year. It's not too complicated, but getting things going can be a little overwhelming. There's a lot of advice on these forums, and not all of it is good advice. When you read, make mental notes of who actually knows what they're doing and try to listen to their stuff when you see their avatars. (No offense to most of the people on this forum... I'm just trying to give some more good advice.)

Your question is pretty broad, so here's a broad answer:

You need a grow box, a light, a fan, a carbon filter, and grow stuff (pots, dirt, nutrients).

You probably have enough space in there, as long as you meant "2-1/2 feet wide", not "2-1/2 inches wide".


Box - Does it need to be disguised as something that it's not? Or does it just have to be mostly light/air tight? Check your local hardware or department stores for boxes you can use. I got mine at Lowe's for $12.00. Be creative... It all starts with the box.

Light - Decide what lights you want to use. Probably CFLs or a small HPS. There's plenty of advice around here for CFL grows, like how many, what wattage, etc. Small HPS lights are probably better, but there's a little electrical work to do. For that space, a 70w or 150w HPS converted security light would probably work.

Fan - At minimum, you need a fan that sucks enough air through & out of the box to keep it cool. A second fan inside to move air around the plants isn't a bad idea. Probably two computer fans would be enough, but it depends on your carbon filter.

Carbon Filter - Figure out a way to exhaust your air through activated charcoal or a store-bought air filter of some sort. There are a million ways to do this.

Grow stuff - Dirt is probably easier than hydro: If you put dirt in a pot, you can grow plants. Hydro requires air pumps and water changes and constant monitoring. Also, buy a pH test kit, because you'll need it. Nutrients can be either hydro-store stuff or Walmart stuff. Ask around for advice on what to use. Also, get a thermometer. The $5 digital at Walmart keeps records of daily "highs and lows", which is worth knowing.


Generally, start by acquiring the box. Everything else is built around the box, so it's hard to give advice when the actual "grow room" doesn't exist yet.

Here's my box, which cost about $170.00 total (not counting seeds). It would, by the way, fit neatly into your closet. What a coincidence! These were all grown from seed under a 150w HPS. (The picture is old, BTW). Potted in 100% FFOF soil, fed with FF nutrients. I don't think it can get any simpler than this:


http://forum.grasscity.com/attachmen...3&d=1200976139

I guess PM me if you have any questions! (I'm not on this board very often) I'm not an expert, but I could talk ANYONE through repeating what I did.

[NeRvE]

Hey, thanks for all the good input. Even though I am a beginner I think I would rather just learn to do hydro rather than soil not just for the quality but from what I am told it's a lot cleaner and once you learn what your doing and how to do it, it's fairly easy because you can kind of control everything. As of now I am actually leaning towards building my own box that way I know exactly what I've got, I can do the stuff myself and save money, and with that I can clone and have a never ending cycle of it because once harvested you can just plant the clones and grow them while your doing your other stuff or smoking it lol.

If anyone has any good ngb ideas or blue prints for a box that would fit in the area I have, please post them (pictures would be great too)




Stay HIGH everyone

[s8nzsmjn]

Originally Posted by Segue

Good call trying to get away from the "bad element". I'd prefer never to set foot off my property with anything illegal, which is why I got started on this hobby last year. It's not too complicated, but getting things going can be a little overwhelming. There's a lot of advice on these forums, and not all of it is good advice. When you read, make mental notes of who actually knows what they're doing and try to listen to their stuff when you see their avatars. (No offense to most of the people on this forum... I'm just trying to give some more good advice.)

Your question is pretty broad, so here's a broad answer:

You need a grow box, a light, a fan, a carbon filter, and grow stuff (pots, dirt, nutrients).

You probably have enough space in there, as long as you meant "2-1/2 feet wide", not "2-1/2 inches wide".


Box - Does it need to be disguised as something that it's not? Or does it just have to be mostly light/air tight? Check your local hardware or department stores for boxes you can use. I got mine at Lowe's for $12.00. Be creative... It all starts with the box.

Light - Decide what lights you want to use. Probably CFLs or a small HPS. There's plenty of advice around here for CFL grows, like how many, what wattage, etc. Small HPS lights are probably better, but there's a little electrical work to do. For that space, a 70w or 150w HPS converted security light would probably work.

Fan - At minimum, you need a fan that sucks enough air through & out of the box to keep it cool. A second fan inside to move air around the plants isn't a bad idea. Probably two computer fans would be enough, but it depends on your carbon filter.

Carbon Filter - Figure out a way to exhaust your air through activated charcoal or a store-bought air filter of some sort. There are a million ways to do this.

Grow stuff - Dirt is probably easier than hydro: If you put dirt in a pot, you can grow plants. Hydro requires air pumps and water changes and constant monitoring. Also, buy a pH test kit, because you'll need it. Nutrients can be either hydro-store stuff or Walmart stuff. Ask around for advice on what to use. Also, get a thermometer. The $5 digital at Walmart keeps records of daily "highs and lows", which is worth knowing.


Generally, start by acquiring the box. Everything else is built around the box, so it's hard to give advice when the actual "grow room" doesn't exist yet.

Here's my box, which cost about $170.00 total (not counting seeds). It would, by the way, fit neatly into your closet. What a coincidence! These were all grown from seed under a 150w HPS. (The picture is old, BTW). Potted in 100% FFOF soil, fed with FF nutrients. I don't think it can get any simpler than this:


http://forum.grasscity.com/attachmen...3&d=1200976139

I guess PM me if you have any questions! (I'm not on this board very often) I'm not an expert, but I could talk ANYONE through repeating what I did.

Hey, just reading your post. Great advice all around! My main carbon filter hasnt been working well. Where and what carbon filters work best for small grows -- similar to yours?

Thanks!
~J