Build it and THEY will grow!! Stealth Grow Box Design

[RobsGreen]

Well things have changed once again, hopefully for the better. All this mud was starting to piss me off, can't seem to get it right and of course its messy so in the garbage it all goes. I decided to make a bubble bucket instead, got it from rumpleforeskin, here's a link if you want one too.

http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...step-step.html

So I made my bucket and did the big transplant tonight, my soil finally dried out enough to get at it. Here's some pics along the way.



This pic is right before I started, it has gotten more leaves but growth seems a little slow, that packed soil is probably why. You can also see nute burn has happened, the bottom leaves have lots of brown and 2 you can see are quite yellow. I shouldn't have used nutes when I flushed.



From the top, I like this pic.



Here's the plant sitting in a pot waiting to be transplanted. I cut the bottom of my pot all around put it in the pot then cut the side of the pot and removed it. I gently started removing the dirt until I was left with this.



A lump of roots. I was amazed how tuff these are, very few broke. I wasn't able to remove all the mud, I can't see it making a big deal, a few batches of water might be a bit muddy. I had a 6" net pot ready with 2 inches of hydroton rocks. I put the plant over the rocks put some in, then moved some roots across the layer of pebbles and filled pot to the top. This is how it looks.



Its sitting in there nice and firm, I guess if it looks the same in 24hrs I'll call it a success.



The other plant in there is something that sprouted the day after my main plant, its been growing the same amount of time and has been through less then my other plant. When it popped out of the soil it looked retarded, least thats what I say. The 4 leaves were all twisted, it looked like cauliflower, it stayed like that for 3 weeks, now out of the blue it has started to grow, the new leaves look a little more normal. I think I'm going to be tossing this one though, no room for it, another bubble bucket is going in there.

I just picked up some weed and was happy to see it had seeds in it, normally not happy about that. I'm quite lucky, I haven't had seeds for a long time and I really needed some, I was about to order online but just wanted bag seed for first grow. Nice thing is the weed they come from is pretty decent, so a plant from them with no seeds should be better then what I'm smoking. One of them popped a sprout today, it got quite long in a short time, hopefully not too long, about 1 1/4". I have it in rockwool now so hopefully by Wednesday I see something. 3 more should sprout tomorrow. My goal is to switch to flowering for 2 plants by the end of Nov.

Good luck with your grow mate, I'll be watching. By the by, are you planning on getting more lights for when your baby grows up?

[RobsGreen]

Thanks!

Yeah more lights will be coming, smaller CFL's around the base of the plants, probably 4-6 of them. Sometime in the near future I'll be trying a 250w HPS lamp, should of had that from the start.

[RobsGreen]

Originally Posted by dmeyer07

Dont let us down

Well I did just that, I killed my baby. That's right I'm a baby killer, the little fucker wouldn't listen so I snapped its neck.

Gave birth to another one, hopefully this one is a good one.

Pics cause there fun.



Dead or at least is now.



Replacement



This was the so called retarded one, it decided to come to life, lets try this again.



36 hours later in a bubble bucket, seems to be doing ok. That bottom leaf is the califlower one that was there in the beginning for the longest time.

[PURPLE_TREES]

nice room! but its about time for an update on these little girls(hopefully)

[PURPLE_TREES]

nvm my post man! i didnt even see you just updated yesterday.. looks great and ill stay tuned

[Zero Hero]

This is a great thread!

You've also just ensured that I go with coco's again and use hydroponics. I thought it was really easy and as I know nothing about soil and organics it will have to wait and I'll experiment with on soil pot and see if I can get it going and if there really is a better taste.

Great thread!

[saucerful]

Aren't you concerned that you might not get a female? you have so much space, and apparently a source of seeds... why not plant 3-4 to make sure you aren't wasting your time. Beautiful cab, btw

[ocitown]

Cut a piece of mylar to cover the media,helps w/light usage and keeps algea down too.

[RobsGreen]

Yeah getting males is definitely a concern but not much I can do about it. My space is very small, only 2 5g buckets fit in there, no extra room. I'm hoping to grow 2 nice females. However I can't even get started, I killed my new little seedling and my other transplant isn't do so well. I just built a muffler for my fan, am I happy with it, not really, anyways I used that foam that expands, after I thought it was all dry or close enough I put it all together, next day I open the cabinet and its an over in there, 93 degrees. My new sprout is curled over and the other didn't looks so well. I looked in my muffler and all the foam expanded to close it shut so no air was getting through.

So yeah things could be better. I just selected 2 more seeds to germinate, hopefully these ones go well. After these 2 I have 16 seeds left.

After all my reading this is how I thought it was done, what am I doing wrong? I'll add mylar on top to my next batch, maybe light is getting to the roots.

For a new plant

• 5g bubble bucket
• water filled 1/2" over bottom of 6" net pot
• 900ppm, 0-8-16 (lucas formula)
• 5.5ph is what it usually sits at, always between 5.3 and 5.8
• 1 - 100 gallon fish pump for bubbles on 2 4" air stones
• 200w 6500k CFL 6" from plant
• sprouted seed put in 1 1/2" rockwool cube
• rockwool sits on a plate with a plastic dome on it under light 6" until it sprouts to top of dome (2 1/2"), I spray rockwool 3 times a day so it doesn't dry out
• remove dome and set rockwool cube in a 6" net backet with hydroton rocks and set in bubble bucket.
• light stays 6" above plant and I mist rockwool so it doesn't dry out

Does all this sound right

[atticsmoker122]

Originally Posted by RobsGreen

CUTE LITTLE GUY

[ocitown]

If you have trouble with the plant after its in the 6" net pot in the 5 gal. bucket make sure the roots are through the bottom of the roockwool and touching the nutes (within the 1/2" nute above the bottom of basket.Are your buckets light proof? Check in the dark with a flashlight inside with an uncut lid tight.Youll get it bro,your real close!

[RobsGreen]

That's my problem there are no roots touching the water when I put them in the bubble bucket, there's a decent root coming out of the rockwool but there's 4" of hydroton for it to break through. Can I fill the bucket so half my 6" pot is under water? Because nothings touching the water I do spray the rockwool 3 times a day so it doesn't dry out. My buckets are 99.9% light proof, light might only be getting through the top of the pots, I'll cover with mylar as you suggested.

Everything I'm doing looks good? I just got my RO system, so it will be pure water used.

[kkrezono]

how long have you had that plant going now? is it under constant 24/7 light?

nice cfl, where and how much?

nice clean cabinent install man

[ocitown]

Originally Posted by RobsGreen

That's my problem there are no roots touching the water when I put them in the bubble bucket, there's a decent root coming out of the rockwool but there's 4" of hydroton for it to break through. Can I fill the bucket so half my 6" pot is under water? Because nothings touching the water I do spray the rockwool 3 times a day so it doesn't dry out. My buckets are 99.9% light proof, light might only be getting through the top of the pots, I'll cover with mylar as you suggested.

Everything I'm doing looks good? I just got my RO system, so it will be pure water used.

Root the rockwool a little longer and drop the rockwool lower in the basket,the goal is for the roots to use the nutes not to soak and cause root rot to the cube,roots should IMHO be comming out of the bottom of the cube prior to the bucket.Then the nute level with the air agitation feeds the roots and WHAM!Hold on man cause roots will grow fast.They should be real white and not slimmy.You may need some cal-mag if you use 100% r/o water.