Build it and THEY will grow!! Stealth Grow Box Design

[RobsGreen]

Don't have such a thing and don't really want to buy one right now, I've already spent WAY to much. Just ordered this tonight.

http://cgi.ebay.com/PH-TEMPERATURE-D...QQcmdZViewItem

The bag of soil says 0.08-0.12-0.08 and it contains MultiCote, does that help?

[ocitown]

Originally Posted by RobsGreen

Don't have such a thing and don't really want to buy one right now, I've already spent WAY to much. Just ordered this tonight.

http://cgi.ebay.com/PH-TEMPERATURE-D...QQcmdZViewItem

The bag of soil says 0.08-0.12-0.08 and it contains MultiCote, does that help?

Keep us in that nice box man!

[RobsGreen]

Well things are going good I do believe, my plant is looking nice and healthy and I got that transplant done and I don't think it could have gone better. I went and got some organic soil, as pure as it gets and some perlite, did a 25% perlite / 75% soil mix and filled up my 2 gallon buckets. Then I grabbed my baby, flipped it upside down to slide it out of the cup, I was surprised with the amount of roots that had already grown. I gently removed mud from each side carefully until most of the roots were dangling, I was holding it by the steam near the end, very carefully of course. I decided not to rinse the roots in water as they looked very fragile and I had most of the soil gone so I figured it was best to get them in the new mud as soon as possible. I removed it from dry soil so it broke away nicely. After it went in the new soil I didn't do any watering, the soil was sorta damp. I did the transplant at 11:00pm and the next day at 6:00pm I did a decent watering, at that point the plant still looked the same, nice and green and the leaves weren't so low, still hanging more then they should be I think. Well already today I could see more growth, so that transplant didn't seem to slow it down at all. In about a week I'm going to start adding some Fox Farm Grow Big and hopefully it does just that and it turns out to be a she.

Here's a pic right before the transplant, 11:00pm Oct 22



And here's a picture at 9:00pm Oct 24 -- 46hrs later, big difference.



You probably notice all the perlite on one side, that happened after I watered it. At first I was poring nice and slow, my goal was to have water come out the bottom holes so I could PH test it. Anyways I added a bottle that had 341ml of water in it and nothing, then I added another 455ml near the end adding it quickly, which seemed to bring a lot of perlite to the top. Anyways after all that water not a drop came out the bottom, I didn't add anymore.

How much water should I be adding to a 2 gallon pot to have it come out the bottom? I was worried about giving it too much. 24hrs later and its still nice and moist, I won't be watering again until Friday night, possibly with big grow if it arrives by then. Curious as to how much I should be giving it in one watering? I want to do a PH test from the run off every time I water.

[ocitown]

Originally Posted by RobsGreen

Well things are going good I do believe, my plant is looking nice and healthy and I got that transplant done and I don't think it could have gone better. I went and got some organic soil, as pure as it gets and some perlite, did a 25% perlite / 75% soil mix and filled up my 2 gallon buckets. Then I grabbed my baby, flipped it upside down to slide it out of the cup, I was surprised with the amount of roots that had already grown. I gently removed mud from each side carefully until most of the roots were dangling, I was holding it by the steam near the end, very carefully of course. I decided not to rinse the roots in water as they looked very fragile and I had most of the soil gone so I figured it was best to get them in the new mud as soon as possible. I removed it from dry soil so it broke away nicely. After it went in the new soil I didn't do any watering, the soil was sorta damp. I did the transplant at 11:00pm and the next day at 6:00pm I did a decent watering, at that point the plant still looked the same, nice and green and the leaves weren't so low, still hanging more then they should be I think. Well already today I could see more growth, so that transplant didn't seem to slow it down at all. In about a week I'm going to start adding some Fox Farm Grow Big and hopefully it does just that and it turns out to be a she.

Here's a pic right before the transplant, 11:00pm Oct 22



And here's a picture at 9:00pm Oct 24 -- 46hrs later, big difference.



You probably notice all the perlite on one side, that happened after I watered it. At first I was poring nice and slow, my goal was to have water come out the bottom holes so I could PH test it. Anyways I added a bottle that had 341ml of water in it and nothing, then I added another 455ml near the end adding it quickly, which seemed to bring a lot of perlite to the top. Anyways after all that water not a drop came out the bottom, I didn't add anymore.

How much water should I be adding to a 2 gallon pot to have it come out the bottom? I was worried about giving it too much. 24hrs later and its still nice and moist, I won't be watering again until Friday night, possibly with big grow if it arrives by then. Curious as to how much I should be giving it in one watering? I want to do a PH test from the run off every time I water.

If yur soil is right and it seems to be,you shouldnt be able to over water if theres enough escape holes.If there is no water comming out at all its either clogged or it needs more.Just make sure all the perlite is not on the top.

[ocitown]

Its like a tv show,ya just cant stop watchin till its done.

[canpow]

Nice!

Keep us updated!

To put up your humidity put something with water in your grow room open to the water evaporate or spray some in the room it will bring humidity up!

[RobsGreen]

Thanks! Well that humidity has got me stumped for a cheap easy fix. I currently have a bowl with water and perlite in it and another bowl with just water and a fan blowing on it and I'm currently below 20% RH. I can spray the inside of the box with my water bottle and it doesn't do anything, just gives me water spots on the mylar. My humidity will go up to about 30% just after I water but doesn't stay there very long.

Guess I'll keep trying things, if I find something that works I'll post it, but hopefully someone tells me before that happens.

[ocitown]

Originally Posted by RobsGreen

Thanks! Well that humidity has got me stumped for a cheap easy fix. I currently have a bowl with water and perlite in it and another bowl with just water and a fan blowing on it and I'm currently below 20% RH. I can spray the inside of the box with my water bottle and it doesn't do anything, just gives me water spots on the mylar. My humidity will go up to about 30% just after I water but doesn't stay there very long.

Guess I'll keep trying things, if I find something that works I'll post it, but hopefully someone tells me before that happens.

If you dont want to get a humidifier then mess around with a small pump and some misters,any good misters i have seen use high pressure which tiny pumps dont put out.If you had access to your house water(1/4"line),home depot has real fine cooling misters which will act like the fog from a humidifier.They dont put out very much water at all.I use them to wash the biodiesel i make and use.

[RobsGreen]

I would rather have a humidifier in the box before a mister, I don't really want a mist falling on the electrical components, safety first. It sucks humidifiers have to be big, unless your gonna fill them 10 times a day. I made my own last night and its helped but still more to go. I took a tupperware container, screwed a 4" fan to it on one side, screwed a big sponge to the other side and filled the container with water, the sponge stays wet and the fan blows on it. Currently I'm at about 40% humidity, but right after the exhaust fan runs it drops to 26%, when the fan shuts off it builds up again. My place is quite dry to begin with so its not helping one bit, I have electric heat.

I'm currently smoking a fatty it should help me think!!

[tiptopfunnyman]

Wow, I aboslutly love this grow box. Its exactly something I need for my room, since the parents snoop. Unfortunatly, Im sure that this cost a bit. In which case that would require a job, or lots of begging, but I dont have a job, which on a side note, I really need one.

[RobsGreen]

Thanks, it did cost quite a bit. I was saving the receipts to add it all up, now I don't even wanna know.

I had to spend another $40 on it today, my seal on my door failed. It happened on the door I always open. It turns out its a bad idea to have the foam on the front edges, every time the door opened to far it was twisting it, eventually ripping it off. After I put on the door surround kit on I knew I should have had foam there instead and nothing on the front, but it was too late then and I was hoping it would hold up. Anyways I've ripped the doors off and installed new foam on the inside of the cabinet so when the doors close they close against it.

I also installed some PVC angles over my intake holes so the light wouldn't come out the back. When I had those cheap boxes in there my wall was lite up at night. I painted the inside flat black which made a difference. I pre-fit them and checked with the light on and it was still coming out, the whole tub was lite up, after painting black nothing comes out.

Here's a pic of what was done.



You can see the new foam around the edges and pipes in the back ground.

Humidity has been a problem so I also made a cheap humidifier, it has helped but it will only be temporary, here's a pic of it.



A small pump constantly shots water at a sponge which a fan is blowing on.

Well that's about all I can report right now, my baby is doing well, I'll post a 2 week comparison picture on Wednesday.

[RobsGreen]

Here's what 2 weeks of growth looks like under a 200w CFL light on 24/7, with a brutal transplant a week ago.



I think it got to much nitrogen so I'll be flushing tonight, the original soil with nutes is to blame I'm sure.

[RobsGreen]

Well tonight was a big step back!

I decided I was going to flush the plant, maybe a good thing I did, anyways when I started watering it took the water ok, a little slow but not bad, then it started coming out the bottom holes as expected, however that only happened for a few moments, then the water backed up, it took a long time to drain. Turns out my soil is garbage again. After being soaked it turn to sludge and all the perlite was coming to the top. In about 1-2 hours I was only able to get about 2-3 gallons of water through it and its a 2 gallon pot. My run off PH level was high, about 7.6 when I started, I manged to get it down to 7.4. I added some hydrogen perxiode to the water, hopefully the roots can breath, its gotta be tight around them. After all the water my soil level dropped dramatically, now the top of the plant is below the rim of the pot.

So now I have to do something with my soil, again. Its a no wonder it took 4 days to dry out. I guess I have another brutal transplant coming, I'm gonna wait till the soil dries out before I do it so I can break it away from the roots.

Here's some pics along the way.



My baby getting drowned, its in about an inch of water.



As low as I could get the PH from the run off.



When it was all said and done, you can see how low it sits now and the leaves are dark where they sat in water.

I'll be sure to take some pics when I transplant, should be interesting!

A SAD DAY INDEED!!

[HiTCheR]

On Halloween too...

My plant got blown over - twice. I have it tied to a stick now

[dmeyer07]

Originally Posted by RobsGreen

Well tonight was a big step back!

I decided I was going to flush the plant, maybe a good thing I did, anyways when I started watering it took the water ok, a little slow but not bad, then it started coming out the bottom holes as expected, however that only happened for a few moments, then the water backed up, it took a long time to drain. Turns out my soil is garbage again. After being soaked it turn to sludge and all the perlite was coming to the top. In about 1-2 hours I was only able to get about 2-3 gallons of water through it and its a 2 gallon pot. My run off PH level was high, about 7.6 when I started, I manged to get it down to 7.4. I added some hydrogen perxiode to the water, hopefully the roots can breath, its gotta be tight around them. After all the water my soil level dropped dramatically, now the top of the plant is below the rim of the pot.

So now I have to do something with my soil, again. Its a no wonder it took 4 days to dry out. I guess I have another brutal transplant coming, I'm gonna wait till the soil dries out before I do it so I can break it away from the roots.

Here's some pics along the way.



My baby getting drowned, its in about an inch of water.



As low as I could get the PH from the run off.



When it was all said and done, you can see how low it sits now and the leaves are dark where they sat in water.

I'll be sure to take some pics when I transplant, should be interesting!

A SAD DAY INDEED!!

def. get her outt all that water! poor girl! lol best of luck i'll be watching. Dont let us down

-Dave